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Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

I started a NaWn, found Chei on D2, and meant to go with 1-handed axe and shield. Now I'm in the Spider's Nest and find the crossbow damnation, the one shooting damnation.
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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1 (tiles) character file.

Majang the Unseen (Naga Wanderer)                  Turns: 25005, Time: 02:49:02

Health: 148/148    AC: 29    Str: 34    XL:     16   Next: 27%
Magic:  24/24      EV: 12    Int: 32    God:    Cheibriados [******]
Gold:   2086       SH:  7    Dex: 26    Spells: 21/22 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis +   a - +1 war axe (flame)
rCold    + . .     Gourm    .   H - +0 buckler
rNeg     + . .     Faith    .   v - +4 chain mail of Focus {rCorr}
rPois    +         Spirit   .   (no helmet)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   c - +1 cloak
rCorr    +         Harm     .   s - +2 pair of gloves
MR       ++...                  q - +2 naga barding {rC+}
Stlth    ++++......             u - amulet of regeneration
Regen    0.8/turn               o - ring of resist corrosion
MPRegen  0.2/turn               U - ring of positive energy

@: studying Stealth, very slow
A: see invisible, clever 1, deformed body, deterioration 1, poison resistance,
slowness 2, slow metabolism 1, spit poison 1, constrict 1, AC +5
a: Spit Poison, Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce
Religion


You are on level 2 of the Spider Nest.
You worship Cheibriados.
Cheibriados is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 22 of its levels.

You have collected 2153 gold pieces.
You have spent 67 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +1 war axe of flaming (weapon)
 b - the +7 morningstar of the New World {crush, rF+ Str+4}
   (You took it off a crimson imp on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It protects you from fire.
 g - the +6 arbalest "Damnation" {damnation}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Spider Nest)
 t - a +0 broad axe
 F - a +0 war axe of freezing
Missiles
 I - 69 tomahawks (quivered)
 N - 7 poisoned tomahawks
Armour
 c - a +1 cloak (worn)
 q - a +2 naga barding of cold resistance (worn)
 s - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 v - the +4 chain mail of Focus (worn) {rCorr}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 H - a +0 buckler (worn)
 M - a +2 chain mail of cold resistance
Jewellery
 e - an uncursed ring of magical power
 o - a ring of resist corrosion (left hand)
 u - an amulet of regeneration (around neck)
 U - a ring of positive energy (right hand)
Wands
 A - a wand of iceblast (?/15)
 C - a wand of digging (14/24)
 P - a wand of lightning (?/15)
Scrolls
 d - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 f - a scroll of enchant weapon
 l - 3 scrolls of fog
 r - 3 scrolls of fear
 B - 6 scrolls of identify
 G - 8 scrolls of remove curse
 J - 10 scrolls of teleportation
Potions
 h - 4 potions of flight
 k - a potion of cancellation
 p - 6 potions of curing
 w - a potion of heal wounds
 z - 2 potions of resistance
 L - 2 potions of invisibility
Books
 i - a manual of Stealth
Miscellaneous
 j - a box of beasts
 E - a phantom mirror
 X - a lamp of fire
Comestibles
 m - 7 royal jellies
 n - 27 fruits


   Skills:
 + Level 10.6 Fighting
   Level 2.0 Short Blades
 * Level 13.4 Axes
   Level 1.0(9.0) Polearms
 - Level 7.7 Throwing
 + Level 8.5 Armour
 + Level 8.2 Dodging
 + Level 18.1 Stealth
 + Level 4.2 Shields
 + Level 3.8 Spellcasting
 + Level 4.4 Translocations
 + Level 11.6 Invocations


You have 21 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Apportation           Tloc           ####..       3%          1    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/15)            Temple (0/1) D:5            Lair (6/6) D:8
  Swamp (0/4) Lair:4       Spider (2/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:12            Elf (0/3) Orc:2       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Xom
Yredelemnul
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:8 (   D:9 %   Orc:2 [**[

Portals:
Trove: D:10 (give +7 demon blade)


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear boots.
Your serpentine skin is tough. (AC +5)
You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv)
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
Your system is resistant to poisons. (rPois)
You cover ground very slowly.
You have a slow metabolism.
You can spit poison.
You can use your snake-like lower body to constrict enemies.
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)
Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage.


Message History

The wolf spider hits you but does no damage.
The wolf spider bites you but does no damage.
The wolf spider hits you but does no damage.
The wolf spider bites you but does no damage.
You hit the wolf spider. You burn the wolf spider.
The wolf spider is almost dead.
You slice the wolf spider!! You burn the wolf spider! You constrict the wolf spider.
You kill the wolf spider!
Cheibriados thoroughly appreciates the change of pace.
The wolf spider hits you but does no damage.
The wolf spider barely misses you.
You closely miss the wolf spider. Your grab misses the wolf spider.
The wolf spider is almost dead.
The wolf spider hits you.
The wolf spider bites you but does no damage.
You slice the wolf spider!! You burn the wolf spider.
You kill the wolf spider!
Cheibriados thoroughly appreciates the change of pace.
You see here 25 stones.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.

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                 ..##..####..
                . #.#.......  ##
                ..#....##..## .
              .#....#...^....#.  ####
               ..#.....#.#.##.####..###
             .##.#.......#..#...#.#...##
             ......####.#...#...#......#
               ....#....#..#..#.#...####
               ##....##.#....##.#..#..#
               #.)#.##..##..##..#....###
               #..@>...#.#..#.#.#.#.#..#
               #)#..#.#..##...........##
               #....#...#.##..##.#.##.#
             #...#..#..##..#...(....#####
            #...#.#....#.#...##.######...
            .##...#..##^........<#..^#...
              ....#.....#.##(...#..#(...#
             .###....#^....####..#....#.#
               ....#..#..##....#....#.###
               ..#.#.#.#.^......#.#.....^
  ######       ##...####..#######..#.#...
  ..#..#.       ..#....†#......#...#...##
##...#..#       . #...#.##.!..######.#.##
...#.... ..       #.. .(.#.#...#...#####


There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  2 ghost moths (Spider:1)
  An emperor scorpion (Spider:1)
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  Snorg (Lair:6)
  An ettin (D:12)
  Erolcha (D:11)
  6 hydras
  Fannar (Orc:1)
  A catoblepas (Lair:4)
  A centaur warrior (D:11)
  7 two-headed ogres
  A death yak (Lair:4)
  6 orc high priests
  Nergalle (Lair:1)
  An unseen horror (D:11)
  A swamp dragon (Lair:4)
  Pikel (D:4)
  6 orc knights
  2 orb spiders (Spider:1)
  5 ugly things
  12 wolf spiders
  An oklob plant (Lair:2)
  A manticore (D:11)
  A deep elf mage (D:11)
  A cyclops (Orc:2)
  7 orc sorcerers
  3 centaur zombies (D:12)
  7 black mambas
  Maurice (Orc:1)
  A centaur skeleton (D:11)
  2 gargoyles
  14 spiny frogs
  A rime drake (Lair:3)
  4 demonic crawlers
  9 komodo dragons
  2 ice devils (Lair:3)
  The ghost of Majang the Digger, a novice GrEE (D:3)
  4 trolls
  Grinder (D:5)
  6 polar bears
  12 jumping spiders
  7 hornets
  18 blink frogs
  2 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  13 hippogriffs
  14 spriggans
  7 tarantellas
  33 redbacks
  2 wraiths (D:12)
  3 wyverns
  3 basilisks
  32 yaks
  A steam dragon (D:11)
  A hungry ghost (D:7)
  3 vampire mosquitoes (D:12)
  Menkaure (D:6)
  10 wargs
  6 swamp worms (Lair:4)
  An acid dragon (D:12)
  18 water moccasins
  8 porcupines
  49 orc warriors
  Duvessa (D:4)
  7 ice beasts
  A slave (D:4)
  4 necrophages
  A phantom (D:6)
  6 black bears
  10 ogres
  3 boggarts (Lair:6)
  30 wolves
  4 centaurs
  16 crocodiles
  14 bullfrogs
  2 wyvern skeletons
  2 wyvern zombies
  3 scorpions
  Dowan (D:4)
  13 killer bees
  10 wights
  4 howler monkeys
  An electric eel (Lair:4)
  3 crimson imps
  5 bullfrog zombies
  A quasit (D:7)
  3 hounds
  5 jellies
  35 orc priests
  4 bullfrog skeletons
  A gnoll shaman (D:8)
  15 worker ants
  3 iguanas
  22 orc wizards
  A hound zombie (D:9)
  A hound skeleton (D:6)
  A mummy (D:12)
  6 gnolls
  18 adders
  A shadow imp (D:12)
  2 oozes
  An adder skeleton (D:7)
  3 adder zombies
  4 worms
  5 dart slugs
  9 leopard geckos
  133 orcs
  2 ball pythons (D:1)
  5 giant cockroaches
  17 goblins
  11 hobgoblins
  20 jackals
  8 quokkas
  12 bats
  3 frilled lizards
  A jackal zombie (D:5)
  5 kobolds
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:7)
  13 rats
  14 fungi
  5 plants
902 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Sonja (Lair:3)
1 creature vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 orc priests
  A leopard gecko (D:4)
  5 orcs
  A giant cockroach (D:4)
  2 jackals (D:5)
  A frilled lizard (D:5)
  39 fungi
  37 plants
  A withered plant (D:12)
89 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 992 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Majang the Naga Wanderer began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Majang set off with: a +2 short sword, a scroll of teleportation, a potion of curing, a +0 robe, a +0 dagger, a bread ration
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 21/21 MP: 1/1
    25 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth
    25 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 28/28 MP: 2/2
   332 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
   403 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 34/34 MP: 3/3
   972 | D:2      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
   994 | D:2      | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth
  1194 | D:2      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  1203 | D:2      | Became a worshipper of Cheibriados the Contemplative
  1242 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 10/42 MP: 4/4
  2248 | D:2      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  2249 | D:2      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  2317 | D:2      | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth
  2618 | D:2      | Reached * piety under Cheibriados
  2879 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Axes
  2910 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 40/49 MP: 5/5
  3289 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  3338 | D:3      | Reached ** piety under Cheibriados
  3632 | D:3      | Noticed Majang's ghost (novice GrEE)
  3660 | D:3      | Killed Majang's ghost
  3660 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
  3660 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 35/56 MP: 6/9
  3933 | D:3      | Reached *** piety under Cheibriados
  4175 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 59/62 MP: 11/11
  4340 | D:4      | Noticed Pikel
  4356 | D:4      | Killed Pikel
  4356 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  4356 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth
  4356 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 32/70 MP: 12/12
  4429 | D:4      | Noticed Dowan
  4431 | D:4      | Noticed Duvessa
  4440 | D:4      | Killed Dowan
  4464 | D:4      | Killed Duvessa
  4579 | D:4      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  4580 | D:4      | Noticed an air elemental
  4581 | D:4      | Noticed a water elemental
  4912 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5390 | D:5      | Reached **** piety under Cheibriados
  5392 | D:5      | Got a warped morningstar {crush}
  5393 | D:5      | Identified the +7 morningstar of the New World {crush, rF+ Str+4} (You took it off a crimson imp on level 5 of the Dungeon)
  5487 | D:5      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  5509 | D:5      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  5619 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5951 | D:5      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  5951 | D:5      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  5969 | D:6      | Noticed Grinder
  6048 | D:5      | Killed Grinder
  6048 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
  6048 | D:5      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 57/79 MP: 13/13
  6150 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth
  6295 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  6423 | D:6      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  6431 | D:6      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  6433 | D:6      | Noticed an angel
  6445 | D:6      | Noticed a profane servitor
  6638 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  6693 | D:6      | Noticed Menkaure
  6700 | D:6      | Killed Menkaure
  6708 | D:6      | Reached ***** piety under Cheibriados
  7078 | D:7      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  7114 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
  7156 | D:7      | Got a sheer robe
  7167 | D:7      | Identified the +1 robe of the Farrier {rElec rF- Stlth+} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  7199 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 88/88 MP: 8/15
  7676 | D:8      | Found Datux's Antique Weapon Boutique.
  7866 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7988 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  7995 | D:8      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  8486 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  8486 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
  8492 | D:8      | Killed a spiny frog
  8558 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
  8584 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth
  8585 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
  8585 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 55/98 MP: 4/17
  8755 | Lair:1   | Noticed Nergalle
  8765 | Lair:1   | Killed Nergalle
  9599 | Lair:2   | Noticed an oklob plant
  9811 | Lair:2   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
  9820 | Lair:2   | Killed a four-headed hydra
  9820 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth
 10448 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: You are occasionally teleported next to monsters. [potion of mutation]
 10448 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: You are dopey. (Int -2) [potion of mutation]
 10448 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of mutation]
 10449 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: You are occasionally teleported next to monsters. [potion of mutation]
 10449 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of mutation]
 10449 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: You are dopey. (Int -2) [potion of mutation]
 10449 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: You are agile. (Dex +2) [potion of mutation]
 10449 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [potion of mutation]
 10449 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: You are agile. (Dex +2) [potion of mutation]
 10449 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of mutation]
 10479 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 10500 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 10603 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 10630 | Lair:3   | Paralysed by a hornet for 2 turns
 10633 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
 10633 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 60/109 MP: 14/18
 11235 | Lair:3   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 11252 | Lair:3   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 11781 | Lair:3   | Noticed Sonja
 11829 | Lair:4   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 11841 | Lair:4   | Noticed a catoblepas
 11865 | Lair:4   | Killed a catoblepas
 11865 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
 12096 | Lair:4   | Reached ****** piety under Cheibriados
 12096 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth
 12556 | Lair:4   | Gained mutation: You can use your snake-like lower body to constrict enemies. [Naga growth]
 12556 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 83/117 MP: 20/20
 12711 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 13516 | Lair:5   | Got a brightly glowing chain mail
 13517 | Lair:5   | Identified the +4 chain mail of Focus {rCorr} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 13549 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth
 14019 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 14151 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
 14458 | Lair:6   | Noticed Snorg
 14472 | Lair:6   | Killed Snorg
 14510 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth
 14654 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 129/129 MP: 21/21
 14889 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 15836 | D:9      | Found Vegrulaw's Food Boutique.
 15911 | D:9      | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth
 15969 | D:9      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 16401 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 16660 | D:10     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 17451 | D:11     | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 17658 | D:11     | Noticed Erolcha
 17664 | D:11     | Killed Erolcha
 17764 | D:11     | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 18289 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 18414 | D:12     | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 19176 | Lair:3   | Killed Sonja
 19367 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
 19367 | D:11     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 131/138 MP: 23/23
 19482 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 19663 | Orc:1    | Noticed Fannar
 19668 | Orc:1    | Noticed Maurice
 19673 | Orc:1    | Killed Fannar
 19674 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 19678 | Orc:1    | Killed Maurice
 19678 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth
 19819 | Orc:1    | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 20105 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 20855 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 20914 | Orc:2    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 7 turns
 20978 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 20986 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 21314 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 21507 | Orc:2    | Found Wesiet's Armour Boutique.
 21522 | Orc:2    | Found Iddeitad's General Store.
 21671 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 21733 | Orc:2    | Found Zostaopu's General Store.
 22016 | Orc:2    | Found Ajoh's Antique Armour Emporium.
 22318 | Orc:2    | Bought a +0 large shield for 67 gold pieces
 22659 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 23673 | Spider:1 | Noticed a ghost moth
 23679 | Spider:1 | Killed a ghost moth
 23680 | Spider:1 | Noticed a ghost moth
 23702 | Spider:1 | Killed a ghost moth
 23758 | Spider:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 117/147 MP: 12/24
 23845 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 |
---------------+-------------------------------------------------+-----
Stealth        |  4  5  6  7        8    10 11 12 13 15 16 17 18 | 18.1
Axes           |           1        3  4  6  7  9 10 11 12 13    | 13.4
Invocations    |              5     6     7  8     9 10    11    | 11.6
Armour         |                    1  2  3  4  5     6  7  8    |  8.5
Dodging        |                       2  3  4  5  6     7  8    |  8.2
Fighting       |                       4  5  6  7  8  9    10    | 10.6
Throwing       |                       1  2  4  5  6  7          |  7.7
Shields        |                                         2  4    |  4.2
Translocations |                                         1  3  4 |  4.4
Spellcasting   |                                         1  3    |  3.8
Short Blades   |                                                 |  2.0
Polearms       |                                                 |  1.0

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
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Melee: Short sword       |    45 |       |       |       |       |       ||    45
       Rapier            |    23 |     4 |       |       |       |       ||    27
       Hand axe          |       |   172 |       |       |       |       ||   172
       War axe           |       |    12 |    75 |       |   742 |   130 ||   959
       Morningstar       |       |       |   122 |   302 |     9 |       ||   433
       Battleaxe         |       |       |       |    82 |   317 |       ||   399
       Constrict         |       |       |       |       |   284 |    24 ||   308
       Broad axe         |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
Throw: Stone             |       |       |     5 |     9 |     5 |       ||    19
       Tomahawk          |       |       |    16 |    54 |    46 |    29 ||   145
 Cast: Apportation       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Invok: Bend Time         |       |     1 |     2 |    13 |    11 |     1 ||    28
       Slouch            |       |       |       |     4 |     5 |       ||     9
       Temporal Distorti |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
 Abil: Spit Poison       |    38 |    55 |    28 |    57 |    68 |    10 ||   256
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |     1 |       |       |    17 |    11 |     3 ||    32
       Potion            |     1 |     2 |     3 |    12 |     2 |       ||    20
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |     4 |     1 |    21 |     3 ||    31
       Invisible         |       |       |     6 |     5 |       |       ||    11
       Petrifying        |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
       Petrified         |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |     7 |       ||     7
  Eat: Chunk             |     2 |    11 |     8 |    17 |    32 |     2 ||    72
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |     1 |     3 ||     4
Armor: Robe              |    16 |    25 |       |       |       |       ||    41
       Scale mail        |       |    59 |    98 |       |       |       ||   157
       Chain mail        |       |       |     1 |   264 |   605 |    96 ||   966
       Swamp dragon scal |       |       |       |       |    25 |       ||    25
Dodge: Dodged            |    39 |   112 |   108 |   339 |   685 |    78 ||  1361
Block: Buckler           |       |       |       |       |   225 |    43 ||   268


What would you do? Throw away the shield and stop training shields? I have some nice two-handed axes in my stash somewhere (actually much better than my one-handed specimens so far). Or should I forget about the crossbow and continue throwing stuff, like I did so far?
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Post Saturday, 29th July 2017, 01:08

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

If you want to win, you're probably best off dropping the crossbow. It's pretty good at killing stuff, but you have 0 crossbow skill and it's loud af. And you're a character with good stealth who is pathologically bad at walking away from trouble and is better at shields than most characters.

If you want to use a cool unrand, this is a very cool unrand. I'd probably use it with the understanding that it would get me killed.
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Post Saturday, 29th July 2017, 02:07

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

njvack wrote:If you want to win, you're probably best off dropping the crossbow. It's pretty good at killing stuff, but you have 0 crossbow skill and it's loud af. And you're a character with good stealth who is pathologically bad at walking away from trouble and is better at shields than most characters.

If you want to use a cool unrand, this is a very cool unrand. I'd probably use it with the understanding that it would get me killed.
I'm going to assume you're either trolling or have no idea what Damnation does. This is like telling someone to use a -2 club instead of a +9 demon whip, because the club makes less noise.
Drop the shield, train crossbows (and turn off all those other skills), and definitely never even think about a shield again. Damnation is better than any melee weapon in the game, and it's not close. It is godly even at 0 skill, due to the constant 3d14 AC-ignoring damage on top of the bolt's damage.
Damnation does make 15 noise at the point of the explosion, but melee makes up to 12 noise right next to you, which is definitely worse. Not that attracting more monsters is really a problem in the first place when you have Damnation, since you can just kill five monsters per shot.

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Post Saturday, 29th July 2017, 04:01

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

To the OP:

Damnation is pretty good. Also, you have barely trained shields, you only have a buckler, and your one-handed axe is nothing to write home about. I would switch to two-handed axe and crossbow. If you want, you can keep another crossbow in inventory for relative popcorn.

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Post Saturday, 29th July 2017, 07:05

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

Id only add that you should keep count of your bolts because damnation destroy them always. Use melee/another arbalest when you dont need big nukes

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Post Saturday, 29th July 2017, 11:53

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

Thanks all, that's very helpful! I'll start training CB and go with my new toy...
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Post Saturday, 29th July 2017, 15:38

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

duvessa wrote:I'm going to assume you're either trolling or have no idea what Damnation does. This is like telling someone to use a -2 club instead of a +9 demon whip, because the club makes less noise.

Huh, thanks. I knew it was a good weapon but assumed it'd get a Na of Chei mobbed and killed. I thought it was a lot louder than melee, like lightning bolt loud.

Edit: Also, I didn't realize it was friggin' 3d14 damage, I thought it was more like 3d6 or something. It's a lot stronger than I thought. learndb claims 3d8, which is still stronger than I thought.
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Post Saturday, 29th July 2017, 19:10

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

Splatted that character in the elven halls. The crossbow is a fine weapon indeed, but by no means does it kill everything on the first shot, and with low crossbows you rarely get more than a second. I think I had the skill up to 10 when I died, so I was getting in a third shot by the time the bad guys were in melee range. Next time I find it, I guess I will use it again.
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Post Sunday, 30th July 2017, 08:26

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

you can semi smite target damnation with f period. This will let you hit stuff adjacent to you with the explosion. Keep in mind the slow firing speed when you do though. Actually you should always fire damnation with period unless you have monsters lined up in a hallway or something.

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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 17:53

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

It's good for bombing stuff that has nowhere to go fast. Monsters that are otherwise boxed in behind clouds, water, etc.
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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 17:59

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

For next time, I advise to train up a good two handed melee weapon or longbow as your primary attack, and use Damnation like a wand of hellfire that has hundreds of charges but is inconvenient and takes several turns to use (so, still pretty good). I'd only put a few points into crossbows.
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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 18:04

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

Portal Projectile also makes it much more useful, if you get that spell. :idea:
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Post Monday, 31st July 2017, 18:26

Re: Found crossbow damnation; what to do?

Rast wrote:For next time, I advise to train up a good two handed melee weapon or longbow as your primary attack, and use Damnation like a wand of hellfire that has hundreds of charges but is inconvenient and takes several turns to use (so, still pretty good). I'd only put a few points into crossbows.
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