Why am I not gaining Sif piety past *****.?


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Post Sunday, 6th November 2016, 19:36

Why am I not gaining Sif piety past *****.?

So, I am currently playing a Sif worshipper, and piety seems to be stuck at *****. for what seems like a really long time.
Like, I am currently at V:2 and that sixth star still eludes me.
I've been keeping Divine Energy on at all times (cause like, why not? It doesn't seem to cost anything), and I've been "overcasting" a lot.
I've been training magic skills, but, c'mon, there are other useful skills to train, and am I just supposed to ignore that manual of Armour I've just gotten?
Now, normally, I wouldn't care, but it's tournament, and becoming a champion actually matters.
So what should I do to finally get the damn star? Should I train more magic? Should I stop using Divine Energy?
Or is it, by any chance, a bug?
Edit: Full dump, if it's relevant:
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.0-2-gae57169 (webtiles) character file.

dracos369 the Stormcaller (HEAE)                   Turns: 46822, Time: 06:33:21

Health: 115/140    AC: 30    Str: 13    XL:     19   Next: 19%
Magic:  20/36      EV: 26    Int: 29    God:    Sif Muna [*****.]
Gold:   1074       SH: 22    Dex: 22    Spells: 11 memorised, 2 levels left

rFire  + . .      SeeInvis +    a - +8 long sword "Gatoeleur" {slice, Int+4 Dex+3 Stlth+}
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    L - +5 steam dragon scales
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    A - +2 shield {AC+3}
rPois  .          Spirit   .    r - +2 helmet
rElec  .          Reflect  +    S - +2 cloak
rCorr  .          Harm     .    h - +2 pair of gloves {Str+3}
MR     +....                    i - +1 pair of boots
Stlth  ++++++....               o - brooch of Shielding {Reflect SH+8}
                                v - ring "Qampott" {rF+ Str+2 SInv Stlth+}
                                K - +4 ring of evasion

@: slowed, studying Armour, deflect missiles, divine energy, very slow
A: icy blue scales 1, robust 1
a: Stop Divine Energy, Channel Magic, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion
}: 1/15 runes: serpentine


You are on level 1 of the Vaults.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 34 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth and Bailey.

You have collected 2965 gold pieces.
You have spent 1891 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - the +8 long sword "Gatoeleur" (weapon) {slice, Int+4 Dex+3 Stlth+}
   (You took it off an orc warrior on level 12 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It makes you more stealthy.
Armour
 h - a +2 pair of gloves of strength (worn)
 i - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
 r - a +2 helmet (worn)
 A - a +2 shield of protection (worn)
 L - +5 steam dragon scales (worn)
 S - a +2 cloak (worn)
Magical Staves
 b - an uncursed staff of air
Jewellery
 o - the brooch of Shielding (around neck) {Reflect SH+8}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [amulet of reflection]
   
   It shields you and reflects attacks.
   It affects your SH (+8).
 p - an uncursed ring of flight
 v - the ring "Qampott" (right hand) {rF+ Str+2 SInv Stlth+}
   (You took it off a naga on level 1 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It lets you see invisible.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 w - an uncursed ring of ice
 K - a +4 ring of evasion (left hand)
 Q - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 R - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
Wands
 e - a wand of teleportation (3/9)
 m - a wand of hasting (3/9)
 t - a wand of enslavement (9/24)
 D - a wand of teleportation (2/9)
 F - a wand of heal wounds (5/9)
 N - a wand of disintegration (11/24)
 W - a wand of paralysis (10/24)
Scrolls
 g - 5 scrolls of teleportation
 j - 12 scrolls of remove curse
 n - 3 scrolls of identify
 y - 2 scrolls of fear
 z - a scroll of blinking
 C - 5 scrolls of magic mapping
 H - a scroll of fog
 J - a scroll of recharging
 Z - 2 scrolls of summoning
Potions
 d - 2 potions of resistance
 f - 5 potions of heal wounds
 k - 2 potions of cancellation
 l - 3 potions of haste
 q - 2 potions of might
 B - a potion of invisibility
 E - 2 potions of berserk rage
 G - 8 potions of magic
 I - a potion of agility
 P - a potion of brilliance
 X - 7 potions of ambrosia
Books
 s - Aseem's Handbook of Sinister Arts and Creation
   (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Vaults)   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Corpse Rot                   Necromancy                    2
    b - Recall                       Summoning/Translocation       3
    c - Cigotuvi's Embrace           Necromancy                    5
    d - Summon Forest                Summoning/Translocation       5
    e - Summon Demon                 Summoning                     5
    f - Death's Door                 Charms/Necromancy             8
 u - a manual of Armour
 O - a book of Burglary   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Swiftness                    Charms/Air                    2
    b - Passwall                     Transmutation/Earth           2
    c - Passage of Golubria          Translocation                 4
    d - Lee's Rapid Deconstruction   Earth                         5
    e - Darkness                     Hexes                         6
    f - Invisibility                 Hexes                         6
Miscellaneous
 V - a lamp of fire
Comestibles
 c - 20 royal jellies
 x - a bread ration
 M - 5 chunks of flesh
 T - a beef jerky
 U - 14 fruits


   Skills:
 - Level 11.0 Fighting
 * Level 12.0 Long Blades
 * Level 10.3 Armour
 - Level 11.0 Dodging
 - Level 7.5 Stealth
 - Level 11.0 Shields
 * Level 12.1 Spellcasting
 - Level 14.0 Conjurations
 - Level 9.0 Charms
 - Level 3.0 Summonings
 - Level 3.0 Necromancy
 - Level 8.0 Translocations
 - Level 9.0 Ice Magic
 - Level 16.0 Air Magic
 + Level 8.1 Invocations
 + Level 3.7 Evocations


You have 2 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Force Lance           Conj/Tloc      ######..     1%          4    None
b - Lightning Bolt        Conj/Air       #######...   1%          5    ##.....
c - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ######..     1%          2    None
d - Static Discharge      Conj/Air       #######.     1%          3    None
e - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   #######...   3%          6    ####...
f - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ######....   1%          3    None
g - Shroud of Golubria    Chrm/Tloc      ######....   1%          2    None
l - Summon Lightning Spi  Summ/Air       ######..     1%          4    None
o - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       ######..     1%          3    None
u - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       ######....   4%          6    ####...
B - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          1%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (6/6) D:9
 Shoals (2/4) Lair:2        Snake (4/4) Lair:2        Slime (0/5) Lair:5
    Orc (2/2) D:12            Elf (2/3) Orc:2        Vaults (2/5) D:14
 Depths (0/5) D:15       
 Crypt: Vaults:2-3 

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
Orc:2 [:[*   Elf:1 (   Elf:2 ?   Snake:2 (   Snake:3 *

Annotations:
D:14 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne
Shoals:1 Nikola


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are partially covered in icy blue scales. (AC +2)
You are robust. (+10% HP)


Message History

You kill the orc knight!
Sif Muna accepts your kill.
You block the ogre's attack.
You hit the ogre.
The ogre is lightly wounded.
The ogre completely misses you.
You slash the ogre!
The ogre is almost dead.
The ogre closely misses you.
You slash the ogre!
You kill the ogre!
Sif Muna accepts your kill.
No target in view!
You see here a giant club.
Things that are here:
a great sword; a plate armour; an orc corpse
You butcher the orc corpse.
M - 5 chunks of flesh (gained 2)
Things that are here:
a great sword; a plate armour

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Frances (D:13)
  2 sphinxes (Vaults:1)
  Donald (Vaults:1)
  13 nagarajas
  A fire giant (D:15)
  A vault warden (Vaults:1)
  Aizul (Snake:3)
  A stone giant (Vaults:1)
  6 ironheart preservers
  An entropy weaver (Vaults:1)
  A very ugly thing (Vaults:1)
  A war gargoyle (Vaults:1)
  A deep elf demonologist (Elf:2)
  A deep elf death mage (Elf:2)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  Snorg (D:11)
  A merfolk impaler (Shoals:1)
  A deep elf high priest (Elf:1)
  Josephine (Lair:5)
  3 fire dragons
  3 yaktaur captains (Vaults:1)
  Erolcha (D:11)
  2 great orbs of eyes
  2 rakshasas
  4 vault guards (D:14)
  A catoblepas (D:15)
  9 hydras
  17 naga warriors
  5 centaur warriors
  19 anacondas
  Erica (Lair:2)
  3 ogre magi
  A satyr (Shoals:1)
  6 dancing weapons (Elf:1)
  2 deep troll earth magi
  2 deep troll shamans (Vaults:1)
  7 shock serpents
  5 death yaks (Lair:6)
  6 naga sharpshooters
  9 deep elf knights
  A skeletal warrior (D:14)
  A shadow wraith (Vaults:1)
  A glowing orange brain (Vaults:1)
  2 salamander mystics (Snake:3)
  9 sea snakes
  7 unseen horrors
  A small abomination (Elf:2)
  7 deep trolls
  3 ironbrand convokers (Vaults:1)
  6 naga ritualists
  The ghost of Monkfish the Covert, a novice KoBe of Trog (Bailey)
  3 wizards
  5 hill giants
  5 deep elf archers
  9 orc knights
  Pikel (D:9)
  9 harpies (Shoals:2)
  A wolf spider zombie (D:14)
  16 mana vipers
  27 deep elf magi
  2 ugly things
  7 cyclopes
  2 manticores
  6 fauns
  12 salamanders
  14 elephants
  6 guardian serpents
  2 centaur zombies
  5 vault sentinels (Vaults:1)
  44 black mambas
  Maurice (D:13)
  A torpor snail (Lair:6)
  A gargoyle (D:10)
  13 naga magi
  A water nymph (Shoals:1)
  3 sirens
  16 spiny frogs
  A rime drake (Lair:5)
  2 yaktaurs (Vaults:1)
  A freezing wraith (D:15)
  16 komodo dragons
  A yaktaur (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  A meliai (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  3 merfolk
  5 trolls
  11 polar bears
  5 two-headed ogres
  Grinder (D:6)
  3 raiju (Lair:6)
  3 hornets
  A two-headed ogre (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  13 blink frogs
  10 slime creatures
  11 hippogriffs
  A stone giant simulacrum (Vaults:1)
  3 snapping turtles
  2 water elementals
  A shadow (D:15)
  6 wraiths
  55 yaks
  10 hungry ghosts
  2 wyverns
  6 steam dragons
  3 basilisks
  4 vampire mosquitoes
  3 mottled dragons
  Menkaure (D:6)
  14 wargs
  60 nagas
  13 water moccasins
  2 soldier ants
  5 hell hounds (Lair:6)
  6 porcupines
  5 swamp drakes
  15 black bears
  4 slaves (D:9)
  3 phantoms
  46 orc warriors
  4 sky beasts
  2 ice beasts
  22 ogres
  6 boggarts (Vaults:1)
  An eye of draining (D:11)
  20 wolves
  8 centaurs
  19 crocodiles
  21 bullfrogs
  Blork the orc (D:6)
  A big kobold (D:11)
  2 wyvern zombies
  A hornet simulacrum (D:15)
  5 scorpions
  5 wights (D:7)
  4 electric eels
  7 crimson imps
  5 howler monkeys
  A bullfrog zombie (D:9)
  4 lava snakes (Lab)
  6 centaur skeletons
  12 orc priests
  19 hounds
  8 jellies
  27 orc wizards
  10 iguanas
  7 hell rats (Lair:4)
  12 worker ants
  Robin (D:3)
  16 gnolls
  12 adders
  A river rat (Lair:4)
  5 shadow imps
  6 oozes
  5 adder skeletons
  2 worms
  6 leopard geckos
  98 orcs
  7 giant cockroaches
  14 goblins
  17 hobgoblins
  7 jackals
  19 kobolds
  8 quokkas
  A ball python (D:3)
  2 bats
  2 frilled lizards (D:2)
  A jackal zombie (D:6)
  4 rats
  5 fungi
  18 plants
1251 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A deep troll earth mage (Vaults:2)
  A hill giant (D:13)
  An orc knight (Orc:2)
  A black mamba (Snake:1)
  A yaktaur (Vaults:1)
  A vampire mosquito (D:13)
  A warg (Orc:2)
  A naga (Snake:1)
  An orc warrior (Orc:2)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:13)
  3 gnolls (D:13)
  2 orcs
15 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A merfolk avatar (Shoals:1)
  2 deep elf archers
  A salamander (Snake:1)
  4 fauns (Shoals:1)
  23 ball lightnings
  A siren (Shoals:1)
  A yaktaur (Vaults:1)
  A hornet (Vaults:1)
  A naga (Snake:4)
  2 centaurs (D:14)
  An iguana (Lair:6)
  An orc (Orc:1)
  A kobold (Bailey)
  26 fungi
  38 plants
104 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1370 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | dracos369 the High Elf Air Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 4/4
   707 | D:2      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 4/17 MP: 6/6
   711 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
   716 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
  1109 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Air Magic
  1111 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 10/21 MP: 1/7
  1822 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 27/27 MP: 2/8
  1853 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Static Discharge
  1993 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
  1998 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 27/31 MP: 0/10
  2221 | D:3      | Noticed Robin
  2226 | D:3      | Killed Robin
  2809 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Air Magic
  3070 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3098 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3098 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 36/36 MP: 7/12
  3244 | D:4      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  3247 | D:4      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  3250 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  3467 | D:4      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  3544 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3629 | D:5      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  3637 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
  3637 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
  3702 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 41/43 MP: 2/14
  4557 | D:6      | Noticed Blork the orc
  4563 | D:6      | Killed Blork the orc
  4563 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  4563 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 42/52 MP: 6/15
  4566 | D:6      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  4731 | D:6      | Noticed Grinder
  4739 | D:6      | Killed Grinder
  4749 | D:6      | Noticed Menkaure
  4754 | D:6      | Killed Menkaure
  4754 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades
  4763 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales. (AC +2) [potion of beneficial mutation]
  5109 | D:7      | Found a flagged portal.
  5147 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5157 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5261 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
  5449 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  5663 | Bailey   | Noticed Monkfish's ghost (novice KoBe)
  5702 | Bailey   | Learned a level 5 spell: Lightning Bolt
  5760 | Bailey   | Killed Monkfish's ghost
  5760 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  5760 | Bailey   | Reached XP level 9. HP: 42/61 MP: 1/16
  6744 | D:8      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  6865 | D:8      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  6941 | D:8      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  7347 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades
  7347 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 63/68 MP: 4/17
  7593 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  7875 | D:9      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  8068 | D:9      | Noticed Pikel
  8076 | D:9      | Killed Pikel
  8237 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9152 | D:6      | Got a steaming scale mail
  9153 | D:6      | Identified the +5 scale mail of Sovereignty {MR+ Dex+3} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
  9276 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  9279 | D:6      | Became a worshipper of Sif Muna the Loreminder
  9522 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  9522 | Lair:1   | Noticed a black mamba
  9548 | D:9      | Killed a black mamba
  9548 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  9548 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
  9558 | D:9      | Reached skill level 7 in Air Magic
  9950 | Lair:1   | Noticed a black mamba
  9956 | Lair:1   | Killed a black mamba
 10081 | Lair:1   | Reached * piety under Sif Muna
 10081 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 80/80 MP: 4/18
 10700 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 8 in Air Magic
 10983 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 11182 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 11232 | Lair:2   | Noticed Erica
 11326 | Lair:2   | Killed Erica
 11901 | Lair:2   | Reached ** piety under Sif Muna
 11901 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 9 in Air Magic
 12079 | Lair:2   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 12126 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 12238 | Lair:2   | Killed a one-headed hydra
 12238 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 12687 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Air Magic
 13193 | Lair:3   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 13203 | Lair:3   | Killed a one-headed hydra
 13203 | Lair:3   | Reached *** piety under Sif Muna
 13809 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 46/85 MP: 0/19
 13809 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 13814 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 11 in Air Magic
 14564 | Lair:4   | Reached **** piety under Sif Muna
 14963 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 15381 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 15381 | Lair:5   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 16421 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 12 in Air Magic
 16568 | Lair:5   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 16575 | Lair:5   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 16687 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 16769 | Lair:5   | Reached ***** piety under Sif Muna
 16769 | Lair:5   | Identified Sif Muna's Catalogue of Nocuous Unholy Rituals (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16769 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 16875 | Lair:5   | Noticed Josephine
 16877 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 16879 | Lair:5   | Killed Josephine
 17213 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 17565 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 17570 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 70/90 MP: 12/22
 18673 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 13 in Air Magic
 20133 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 6 spell: Poisonous Cloud
 20145 | Lair:6   | Identified Sif Muna's Tome of Conjuration (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 20145 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 20484 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 97/97 MP: 15/25
 21612 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 14 in Air Magic
 21742 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 6 spell: Conjure Ball Lightning
 22583 | Lair:1   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 22647 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 22710 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 23094 | D:10     | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Lightning Spire
 23438 | D:11     | Noticed Erolcha
 23445 | D:11     | Killed Erolcha
 23724 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
 23901 | D:11     | Identified Sif Muna's Handbook of Damage Dealing (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 23901 | D:11     | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 24311 | D:11     | Noticed Snorg
 24313 | D:11     | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 24327 | D:11     | Killed Snorg
 24616 | D:11     | Learned a level 4 spell: Force Lance
 25125 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 26271 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 26310 | D:12     | Got an encrusted long sword {slice}
 26311 | D:12     | Identified the +8 long sword "Gatoeleur" {slice, Int+4 Dex+3 Stlth+} (You took it off an orc warrior on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 26485 | D:12     | Learned a level 6 spell: Freezing Cloud
 26722 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 26843 | Orc:1    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 27404 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 6 spell: Conjure Ball Lightning
 27543 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 27649 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 27845 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
 27866 | Orc:2    | Identified Sif Muna's Tome of Aerial Shape Shifting (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 27866 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 27929 | Orc:2    | Found Foenn's Armour Emporium.
 27929 | Orc:2    | Found Waenut's Assorted Antiques.
 27958 | Orc:2    | Bought a +1 pair of gloves of strength for 231 gold pieces
 28023 | Orc:2    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 73/101 MP: 4/29
 28085 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 28354 | Orc:2    | Found Houtuah's Armour Emporium.
 28354 | Orc:2    | Found Buapuec's Book Shop.
 28636 | Orc:2    | Bought a +2 helmet for 231 gold pieces
 28662 | Orc:2    | Bought a polished falchion for 296 gold pieces
 28662 | Orc:2    | Identified the +2 falchion of Regungaa {slice, +Inv MP+9 Str+2} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 28846 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 1 spell: Corona
 28851 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 4 spell: Force Lance
 28916 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 29367 | Snake:1  | Gained mutation: You are robust. (+10% HP) [potion of beneficial mutation]
 30015 | Snake:1  | Got a vibrating tin ring
 30018 | Snake:1  | Identified the ring "Qampott" {rF+ Str+2 SInv Stlth+} (You took it off a naga on level 1 of the Snake Pit)
 30058 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
 30502 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 30594 | Snake:1  | Identified Zeosiduo's Compendium of Helpful Calling (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Snake Pit)
 30594 | Snake:1  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 30830 | Snake:2  | Found Zadd's Antique Weapon Shop.
 30840 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 15 in Air Magic
 31236 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 31421 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations
 31895 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 32141 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 32142 | Snake:2  | Reached XP level 16. HP: 89/119 MP: 0/31
 33847 | Snake:3  | Noticed Aizul
 33871 | Snake:3  | Killed Aizul
 33971 | Snake:3  | Learned a level 6 spell: Deflect Missiles
 34130 | Snake:3  | Found Oga Hues's Assorted Antiques.
 34138 | Snake:3  | Bought a short silver wand for 104 gold pieces
 34140 | Snake:3  | Bought a paperback book for 390 gold pieces
 34627 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 35003 | Shoals:1 | Noticed Nikola
 36221 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 36627 | Orc:2    | Bought a hardcover book for 555 gold pieces
 36632 | Orc:2    | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
 37057 | Elf:1    | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 37147 | Elf:1    | Found Varioc's Antique Weapon Shop.
 37150 | Elf:1    | Reached XP level 17. HP: 128/128 MP: 17/32
 37660 | Elf:2    | Identified Sif Muna's Papyrus of Damaging Augmentations (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 2 of the Elven Halls)
 37660 | Elf:2    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 37909 | Elf:2    | Found Podal's Magic Scroll Boutique.
 37917 | Elf:2    | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 42 gold pieces
 37917 | Elf:2    | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 42 gold pieces
 38584 | Snake:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit
 38647 | Snake:4  | Got a fine ring mail
 38658 | Snake:4  | Identified the +5 ring mail "Qeoquog" {rN++} (You found it on level 4 of the Snake Pit)
 39297 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 39389 | Snake:3  | Learned a level 2 spell: Shroud of Golubria
 39621 | Snake:4  | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
 39903 | Snake:3  | HP: 5/128 [salamander mystic/orb of energy (29)]
 40271 | Snake:4  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 40277 | Snake:4  | Identified Sif Muna's Handbook of Freezing Stolen Souls (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 4 of the Snake Pit)
 40277 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 40362 | Snake:4  | Paralysed by a naga for 5 turns
 40385 | Snake:4  | HP: 6/128 [poisoned by a sea snake]
 40390 | Snake:4  | HP: 6/128 [poisoned by a sea snake]
 40395 | Snake:4  | HP: 6/128 [poisoned by a sea snake]
 40899 | D:13     | Reached XP level 18. HP: 136/136 MP: 35/35
 40913 | D:13     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 40918 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 42307 | Lab      | Got a citrine-encrusted scale mail
 42309 | Lab      | Identified a +4 rod of ignition (10/10) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 42329 | Lab      | Identified the +5 scale mail of Duty {rC- Dex+4} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 42386 | D:13     | Noticed Frances
 42395 | D:13     | Killed Frances
 42513 | D:13     | Noticed Maurice
 42522 | D:13     | Killed Maurice
 42872 | D:13     | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 43494 | D:14     | Identified Sif Muna's Reference Book on Envenoming and Confrontation (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 14 of the Dungeon)
 43494 | D:14     | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 43618 | D:14     | Noticed Roxanne
 43753 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 44164 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 44428 | D:15     | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
 44444 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 44499 | D:15     | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 44635 | D:15     | Reached skill level 16 in Air Magic
 44952 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 45005 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Donald
 45025 | Vaults:1 | Killed Donald
 46140 | Vaults:1 | Identified Aseem's Handbook of Sinister Arts and Creation (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Vaults)
 46140 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 46324 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 119/140 MP: 17/36
 46503 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----
Conjurations   |     2  3     4              5  9 10 12    13       14    | 14.0
Air Magic      |     4     5  6              7 10 12 13 14 15       16    | 16.0
Spellcasting   |              3  4                 5  6  9 10    12       | 12.1
Fighting       |                 1  3  5  6  9             10 11          | 11.0
Long Blades    |                 1  3  6 10                         11 12 | 12.0
Dodging        |                    5  6  7  8        9 10       11       | 11.0
Evocations     |                       1                 2           3    |  3.7
Stealth        |                       3  4                    5  7       |  7.5
Shields        |                             1     2  4     5  9 10 11    | 11.0
Charms         |                             2  4  5        6  7     8  9 |  9.0
Translocations |                                3           5  7     8    |  8.0
Invocations    |                                   5  7  8                |  8.1
Armour         |                                         3  5        9 10 | 10.3
Summonings     |                                         2  3             |  3.0
Ice Magic      |                                         2  6  8     9    |  9.0
Necromancy     |                                                     3    |  3.0

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    10 |    12 |       |       |       |       |       ||    22
       Scimitar          |       |     5 |    89 |   423 |   474 |       |       ||   991
       Dagger            |       |       |       |     3 |     8 |     9 |       ||    20
       Staff             |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       ||     2
       Long sword        |       |       |       |       |   298 |   967 |    89 ||  1354
 Cast: Shock             |    44 |    80 |   225 |   389 |   358 |       |       ||  1096
       Repel Missiles    |     1 |       |     2 |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     5
       Static Discharge  |       |     3 |    12 |    84 |   130 |   107 |    14 ||   350
       Swiftness         |       |       |       |     1 |     3 |     1 |       ||     5
       Lightning Bolt    |       |       |       |     5 |    31 |    45 |     3 ||    84
       Poisonous Cloud   |       |       |       |       |     9 |       |       ||     9
       Blink             |       |       |       |       |     2 |     8 |       ||    10
       Freezing Cloud    |       |       |       |       |    61 |   110 |     2 ||   173
       Force Lance       |       |       |       |       |   103 |   127 |     3 ||   233
       Conjure Ball Ligh |       |       |       |       |    10 |       |       ||    10
       Summon Lightning  |       |       |       |       |     4 |     7 |     1 ||    12
       Deflect Missiles  |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Regeneration      |       |       |       |       |       |    21 |       ||    21
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |       |       |       |       |    10 |     1 ||    11
       Shroud of Golubri |       |       |       |       |       |    11 |     1 ||    12
Invok: Divine Energy     |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |       |       ||     3
       Stop Divine Energ |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       ||     2
       Channel Magic     |       |       |       |       |     2 |     3 |       ||     5
       Forget Spell      |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |       ||     3
 Abil: Evoke Flight      |       |       |       |     1 |       |     5 |       ||     6
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     6 |    18 |     7 |     6 |       ||    37
  Use: Scroll            |       |       |    21 |    13 |    25 |    19 |       ||    78
       Potion            |       |       |     4 |     8 |     3 |    10 |     1 ||    26
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     2 |     3 |     7 |    16 |    25 |     1 ||    55
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     4 |     1 ||     7
       Confused          |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     6 |    10 |    35 |    69 |    53 |     3 ||   179
       Beef jerky        |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       |       ||     2
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     1 |       ||     3
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     1 |     5 |       |       ||     6
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |       |     1 |     5 |       ||     6
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Armor: Robe              |     4 |     8 |    17 |    33 |     7 |       |       ||    69
       Skin              |       |       |     1 |    23 |       |       |       ||    24
       Steam dragon scal |       |       |       |       |   116 |   153 |    19 ||   288
Dodge: Dodged            |    15 |    16 |   108 |   288 |   630 |   634 |    57 ||  1748
       Deflected         |       |     3 |     8 |     3 |    15 |    40 |     1 ||    70
Block: Other             |       |     1 |    13 |    59 |       |       |       ||    73
       Reflection        |       |     1 |     4 |       |    48 |   132 |     6 ||   191
       Buckler           |       |       |       |    17 |   643 |   234 |       ||   894
       Shield            |       |       |       |       |       |   799 |   109 ||   908
Rpst.: Scimitar          |       |     1 |    27 |    87 |    91 |       |       ||   206
       Long sword        |       |       |       |       |    50 |   124 |     8 ||   182
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Post Sunday, 6th November 2016, 19:51

Re: Why am I not gaining Sif piety past *****.?

sif has fast piety decay now, so try going faster for a little while

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Post Sunday, 6th November 2016, 21:47

Re: Why am I not gaining Sif piety past *****.?

I did a run with DrCj, and had a very hard time reaching maxed piety, which I did not do until near the end.

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Post Monday, 7th November 2016, 00:10

Re: Why am I not gaining Sif piety past *****.?

After rework, Sif Muna got a hidden factor that slows piety gain after 5*.
This has been introduced to control speed of giving Books. (IMHO this is awful decision of Devs)
When I played DEIE^Sif, I've reached 5* at Lair:1, and never used Channel Energy. The piety reached 6* at Vaults:5.


So, Strategy for SIf Muna would be:

1. Reach 5*.
2. Don't use Channel Energy, until you skim sufficient spells from Sif.
3. After having decent spellset, use channel energy and don't bother with piety loss.
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Post Monday, 7th November 2016, 09:16

Re: Why am I not gaining Sif piety past *****.?

papilio wrote:This has been introduced to control speed of giving Books. (IMHO this is awful decision of Devs)

sif got slowed down piety gain after 5* because that's how every god with normal piety works, not to fix some balance issue with book gifting

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Post Wednesday, 9th November 2016, 14:27

Re: Why am I not gaining Sif piety past *****.?

CanOfWorms wrote:
papilio wrote:This has been introduced to control speed of giving Books. (IMHO this is awful decision of Devs)

sif got slowed down piety gain after 5* because that's how every god with normal piety works, not to fix some balance issue with book gifting


I have been at 5* piety with Sif training nothing but spellcasting skills, meaning maximum piety gain in conjunction with killing. Most gods, such as Veh or Oka or Chei, you get piety just by killing. With these three I can get 6* no problem while with Sif it is very difficult. Until just now I actually thought piety stopped at 5* for her and that the occasional 6* I'd see in vaults was the result of a glitch of some sort.

Exactly what is changing that is causing this to happen? Because it's certainly not solely because of what you said.

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Post Wednesday, 9th November 2016, 14:51

Re: Why am I not gaining Sif piety past *****.?

I guess the intention here is to prevent casting level 9 spells like Dragoncall at 50% failure rate because old Sif used to give you 100% miscast protection.
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Post Wednesday, 9th November 2016, 16:36

Re: Why am I not gaining Sif piety past *****.?

IIRC, gift timeouts cause piety gain to be paused until they expire.

Book gifting has been moved to 5 stars, right? That would explain why piety gain becomes very slow.

VeryAngryFelid wrote:I guess the intention here is to prevent casting level 9 spells like Dragoncall at 50% failure rate because old Sif used to give you 100% miscast protection.

That got removed? That's very disappointing.

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Post Wednesday, 9th November 2016, 18:29

Re: Why am I not gaining Sif piety past *****.?

Hurkyl wrote:
VeryAngryFelid wrote:I guess the intention here is to prevent casting level 9 spells like Dragoncall at 50% failure rate because old Sif used to give you 100% miscast protection.

That got removed? That's very disappointing.


Still there, but the miscast protection scales with piety (always was the case I think?) so what VAF meant is that it's harder to get to the 100% miscast protection at 6* piety.

Actually I don't think that was the intention, but it was a side effect, sure.

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