Zig Combo?


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Post Sunday, 10th July 2016, 22:36

Zig Combo?

What would be a good combo for doing a ziggurat? NaFE? NaCj? DECj?

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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 01:41

Re: Zig Combo?

ideally a non-undead species, background doesn't matter

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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 01:57

Re: Zig Combo?

If you get the right mutations demonspawn is really good(but maybe less so now that powered by death got nerfed).

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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 03:18

Re: Zig Combo?

makhleb + tornado is a pretty good zig combo

vehumet + fire storm is another good one

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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 09:07

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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 10:07

Re: Zig Combo?

stickyfingers wrote:http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Piginabag/Piginabag.txt

This is insane.

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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 10:43

Re: Zig Combo?

I'm a fan of good defences + evocations and Qazlal.

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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 11:24

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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 14:11

Re: Zig Combo?

stickyfingers wrote:0.17 and Gozag
http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Piginabag/Piginabag.txt

Crazy character!

For the unenlightened, what does Gozag contribute here? Loads of shops? Gold aura? Can you bribe zigs?!
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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 14:23

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duvessa wrote:non-undead

I don't see a point. With Makh and all that lvl9 spells I just don't bother to turn Necromut off when I face holy zig!
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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 14:45

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stickyfingers wrote:0.17 and Gozag
http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Piginabag/Piginabag.txt


Good source of pan lord names..

  Code:
267632 | Zig:24   | Noticed Dick the pandemonium lord
636258 | Zig:25   | Killed Capnass the pandemonium lord
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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 17:11

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4Hooves2Appendages wrote:
stickyfingers wrote:0.17 and Gozag
http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Piginabag/Piginabag.txt

Crazy character!

For the unenlightened, what does Gozag contribute here? Loads of shops? Gold aura? Can you bribe zigs?!


The gold distraction in that version was uncapped, so mass of monsters + fire storm et al = mass of gold = the rest of the monsters sit around doing nothing while you finish them off.

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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 18:17

Re: Zig Combo?

I read the original question as about doing *one* zig, not many.

I think the most reliable is either Tornado or Fire Storm (Glaciate and Shatter are less reliable but could work). Makhleb and Vehumet are strong. Torment immunity (Necromutation or undead) is a good idea (or rN++ at least). (Ghouls are really tempting, except their stats suck, so high-level spells are difficult.) Haste, CBlink etc are great. Channeling is also useful. (Make sure you know how CBoE works, have lots of Evocations if you go that route, and bring a |oE [or Sif] if you go that route.)

So, DE with Necromutation and Fire Storm or Tornado is easiest in my opinion. The downside is -30% HP, but hopefully nothing ever gets close to you. (Train some melee, Fighting, Dodging, and I'd shoot for FDA or similar.)

Melee + haste (spell or wand) could work, but some floors need extreme care (Panlords, Abyss, Tomb, Spider, Earth, Air without rElec...)

Holy floors are thankfully rare: the Daevas' smites will tear you up. Hide in a corner with fog etc if you can't Fire Storm them all to death. (And come out of lich-form.)

Running for the exit (mapping, blink, etc) is always an option, but you'll miss all that sweet, sweet loot!!! (You can apport some...)

Axes are good but not required.

All that said, just go splat some characters and figure it out. You can make partial zig runs (to 10, 15, etc) on strong characters or when you think you need something (e.g. !oCureMutaion). You've died for dumber reasons before...
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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 19:04

Re: Zig Combo?

stickyfingers wrote:0.17 and Gozag
http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Piginabag/Piginabag.txt

Jeez, didn't even learn Sting and Freeze to max Poison and Ice magics.
I am not a very good player. My mouth is a foul pit of LIES. KNOW THIS.

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Post Monday, 11th July 2016, 21:05

Re: Zig Combo?

That is plain, unadulterated laziness. Disgusting.

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Post Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 00:29

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njvack wrote:
stickyfingers wrote:0.17 and Gozag
http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Piginabag/Piginabag.txt

Jeez, didn't even learn Sting and Freeze to max Poison and Ice magics.

FR: allow training a spell school if you have a relevant spellbook in your inventory, even if none of the spells are memorized

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Post Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 01:08

Re: Zig Combo?

He had like 2800 !oXP...

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Post Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 01:20

Re: Zig Combo?

FR: allow training a spell school, even if you don't have a relevant spellbook in your inventory

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Post Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 01:23

Re: Zig Combo?

Throw in weapons and shields etc., too. Just be able to train what you want, without having to lug stuff around or otherwise unlock the skill

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Post Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 05:53

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Allowing training for stuff you don't actually have sounds like a new-player trap.

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