Ogre armor choices?

[MrRokkomies]

I have had varying success playing Ogres, but they all struggle greatly with defences... Now that they changed how ozos armor works and removed stone skin, getting AC up early game is even harder.

In my latest game I have got a +1 Steam DA, which is nice to have now, but might not be worth the scrolls in the long run. Still, I need to focus on "now" and not "then".

What would be the ideal armor for an Ogre? What would be the best realistic to get armor? How should I approach the defence issue anyway?

Has anyone ever found an endgame quality animal skinn ever? Aquiring armor gave me one, was not dissapointed, since my expectations were low...

[duvessa]

Ideal is pearl dragon armour. In practice you are going to end up with mottled/steam/fire/ice dragon armour, troll leather, or just a robe.
You should almost never save enchant armour scrolls.

[chequers]

Why PDA over GDA? I figured trolls can't dodge anyway.

[MrRokkomies]

Ogres can cast spells to some extent and they really help you survive. And even if they can not dodge well, I would not throw away that little ev I have.

Getting a GDA is much easier than PDA though, so GDA might be an option.

[duvessa]

Why PDA over GDA? I figured trolls can't dodge anyway.

That argument might be persuasive if we were talking about trolls and not ogres.

[Jeremiah]

Swamp dragon armour can be pretty good, but you'll only find one if swamp is in your game.

Also quicksilver dragon armour may be worth swapping to later as you only need to use 1 scroll on it.

[crate]

You pretty much always want dodging on troll/ogre, because you don't start the game with an armour where training armour makes sense and it's really bad to not train defenses. Then by the time you find a dragon armour the lighter ones end up being better imo.

[MrRokkomies]

I also remembered why I used Steam DA on one of my more successfull Ogre IEs. It allows Ozos to be used. How ever the pondering change to that spell makes me hesitate to use it.

Also on the topic of EV. If I worship dith, the umbra gives -Acc to monsters, so how does that affect the low numbers of EV? I would assume that would make +1 ev matter even more than usually. I'm under the impression that +1EV has more impact the lower your EV score is and becomes less meaningfull when you are over the 20s.

[bcadren]

For a TROLL I'd say no armour, use statue form or dragon form (since you are UC anyways taking up Tmut is a good move). With Ogre's whole -2* UC and 3! Maces I wouldn't necessarily do that.

Anyways, in my book due to your generally low defenses for much of the game Large Shield + Morning/Eveningstar or Demon Whip is better than the 2H G(S)C; it also has the luxury of NOT taking insanely high skill to get to mindelay. And a Shield (especially if you find one with rF+ or AC+3) is a significant help in your defenses.

As for armour: Early game, make a Steam Dragon if you kill a Steam Dragon (and that can be your permanent armour); otherwise stick to robe or troll leather.

Late game...yea, don't hold off until Holy Pan and try to get a PDA (Since they virtually don't exist outside of that one floor of Pandemonium and that floor is really hard). But my personal choice because of high Og STR is Shadow Dragon. The stealth really helps in extended. Though anything Shadow and Storm or lighter is fine; FDA/IDA in particular can help with holes in your elemental defenses. If you're trying to get level 9 spells online though, stick to steam/robe or take a lighter dragon like mottled, Swamp, etc.

I would almost never recommend GDA, the STR requirement to not make your EV nothing is stupidly high and unless you are with Chei you just can't cast in it, period.

[Sar]

+3 apt needs you don't need "insane" investment to mindelay a G(S)C, and they're a bit more common than eveningstars and demon whips.

I did play a shield ogre once. Found a dwhip of vamp in Lair. That was pretty fun (hold tab, everything dies), but I still went GSC for postend.

[edgefigaro]

You can also dip zig and hope for a holy floor at the 5-10 range.

Ogres and trolls generally just want the first dragon armor that comes available. Randart dragon armors are rare, and the classes need defenses too much to wait. Committing early is better than finding the perfect fit.

[MainiacJoe]

Why not just start OgFi then? The shield gives you extra defenses early, the flail is a good starting weapon, you get a potion of might for emergencies, the armour skill becomes Dodging. You can ditch the shield later when M&F gets good enough for GSC and when a nice armor shows up. Even training Shields a few levels, that's a drop in the bucket later on. Seems to me Fighter gets you through the early levels the safest. What am I missing?

[ydeve]

Why not just start OgFi then? The shield gives you extra defenses early, the flail is a good starting weapon, you get a potion of might for emergencies, the armour skill becomes Dodging. You can ditch the shield later when M&F gets good enough for GSC and when a nice armor shows up. Even training Shields a few levels, that's a drop in the bucket later on. Seems to me Fighter gets you through the early levels the safest. What am I missing?

You gave up starting with Trog or throwing early large rocks (defenses don't matter if they enemy can't hit you).

[ZipZipskins]

You pretty much always want dodging on troll/ogre, because you don't start the game with an armour where training armour makes sense

ogfi should start the game with a poop dragon armour which is the same as a scale mail but it's re flavored to be the hide from a poop dragon they killed right outside the dungon

[daggaz]

Got me a steam dragon hide. 1 ?EA I saved just for the purpose. Went thru at least four mottled dragons but no hides. Now normally I would hit this immediately, but now Ive got a +2 robe of MR, no other sources of MR, and +11 (!) AC in rings. Thinking of holding off just yet...

What is the best armour for an OgWz, and if its PDA, whats the next best? Ive also got a +6 GSC of freezing, so most of my fights go "conjure flame, sticky flame, whomp whomp rest"

  Code:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17.0 (tiles) character file.

Thogg the Fighter (Ogre Wizard)                    Turns: 40991, Time: 02:12:03

Health: 165/165    AC: 19    Str: 16    XL:     15   Next: 58%
Magic:  30/30      EV: 11    Int: 22    God:    Vehumet [******]
Gold:   1744       SH:  0    Dex:  8    Spells: 10 memorised, 2 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     a - +6 giant spiked club (freeze)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  +     f - +2 robe {MR+}
rNeg   + . .     SustAt   .     (shield currently unavailable)
rPois  .         Gourm    .     b - +2 hat
rElec  .         Spirit   .     t - +0 cloak
rCorr  .         Warding  .     (gloves unavailable)
rMut   +         Stasis   .     (boots unavailable)
MR     ++...                    R - amulet of resist mutation
Stlth  +.........               m - +5 ring of protection
                                U - ring of Yjicw {rN+ AC+6}

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, very unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, clarity, tough skin 1
a: Renounce Religion


You are on level 10 of the Dungeon.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 22 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ossuary and Volcano.

You have collected 2903 gold pieces.
You have spent 1159 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +6 giant spiked club of freezing (weapon)
 F - a flail of protection
Missiles
 c - a throwing net (quivered)
 O - 10 large rocks
Armour
 b - a +2 hat (worn)
 f - a +2 robe of magic resistance (worn)
 t - a +0 cloak (worn)
 T - a steam dragon hide
Jewellery
 m - a +5 ring of protection (right hand)
 B - an uncursed ring of see invisible
 J - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 R - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 S - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 U - the ring of Yjicw (left hand) {rN+ AC+6}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+6).
   It protects you from negative energy.
 X - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
Wands
 k - a wand of teleportation (4)
 v - a wand of digging
 y - a wand of draining
 z - a wand of digging
 A - a wand of polymorph
 E - a wand of fire {recharged}
 H - a wand of fire
 K - a wand of paralysis
 L - a wand of fire {zapped: 2}
 W - a wand of draining {zapped: 8}
 Y - a wand of hasting
Scrolls
 d - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 i - a scroll of fog
 l - 9 scrolls of remove curse
 q - 5 scrolls of recharging
 u - 2 scrolls of blinking
 N - a scroll of enchant armour
Potions
 e - 8 potions of agility
 g - 9 potions of brilliance
 h - 8 potions of curing
 j - 2 potions of resistance
 n - 3 potions of magic
 o - 6 potions of haste
 s - 3 potions of cancellation
 w - 5 potions of berserk rage
 x - 3 potions of flight
 C - 2 potions of invisibility
 D - 5 smoky sapphire potions
 I - 3 potions of might
 Q - 2 yellow potions
Comestibles
 p - 3 chunks of flesh
 r - 9 bread rations
 G - 9 meat rations
 V - 31 fruits


   Skills:
 * Level 14.9 Fighting
 * Level 14.5 Maces & Flails
 - Level 7.0 Dodging
 - Level 1.5 Stealth
 - Level 11.7 Spellcasting
 - Level 10.0 Conjurations
   Level 0.6 Summonings
 - Level 0.6 Translocations
 - Level 7.8 Fire Magic
 - Level 3.0 Air Magic
   Level 3.4 Earth Magic
 - Level 3.2 Poison Magic


You have 2 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Magic Dart            Conj           ####         1%          1    None
b - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  #####...     1%          3    None
c - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      ######..     1%          3    None
d - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          8%          2    None
e - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ###...       6%          2    None
f - Delayed Fireball      Conj/Fire      N/A          52%         7    #######
g - Apportation           Tloc           ###.......   4%          1    None
h - Sticky Flame          Conj/Fire      ######..     1%          4    None
i - Bolt of Fire          Conj/Fire      ######....   7%          6    #####..
j - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   ####......   58%         6    #####..


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/15)            Temple (0/1) D:6            Lair (8/8) D:9
 Shoals (0/4) Lair:6        Snake (0/4) Lair:5        Slime (0/6) Lair:6
    Orc (4/4) D:9             Elf (0/3) Orc:4       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
Orc:3 =   Orc:4 %%=}

Annotations:
D:3 Thogg's ghost, amateur OgWz


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have tough skin (AC +1).
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.


Message History

The killer bee stings you but does no damage. x2
You bludgeon the killer bee!! You freeze the killer bee!
You kill the killer bee!
Vehumet accepts your kill.
The killer bee stings you. The killer bee closely misses you. The killer bee misses you.
The killer bee stings you but does no damage.
You impale the killer bee!! You freeze the killer bee.
You kill the killer bee!
Vehumet accepts your kill.
You see here a killer bee corpse.
r - 9 bread rations (gained 1)
Done exploring.
Saving game... please wait.
Welcome back, Thogg the Ogre Wizard.
Vehumet says: Let it end in hellfire!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Char dumped to 'C:/Users/Ian/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/Thogg.txt'.
You start waiting.
Some of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted away.
A hound comes into view.

.....#.######.#####.#
######......#.#   #.#
##  ##.###..#.#####.#
.#  #....#..........#
.#  ####.#.##########
.#     #.###
.####  #...#
....#  ###.#########
###.######.........#
 #..........######.#
##(.#######.# #..@.#
....#     #.# #h####
##.##     #.###.#
 #.#      #.#...#
 #.#      #.#.###
##.#      #.#.###
...#      #.#...#
...#      #.###.#
#.##      #.###.#
#.#       #.....#
#.#       #.#####


You can see a hound (wandering).

Vanquished Creatures
  Maud (Orc:2)
  Josephine (Lair:5)
  A fire dragon (Lair:8)
  2 hydras
  Erolcha (D:8)
  5 death yaks
  A fire crab (Lair:8)
  4 lindwurms (Lair:4)
  3 orc knights (Orc:4)
  A wolf spider (Lair:8)
  A hornet (Lair:8)
  An ugly thing (D:9)
  5 griffons
  2 orc sorcerers
  8 elephants
  A siren (Lair:6)
  12 black mambas
  A guardian serpent (Lair:8)
  2 molten gargoyles (Volcano)
  23 spiny frogs
  A torpor snail (Lair:8)
  A gargoyle (D:10)
  4 fire drakes
  7 komodo dragons
  3 trolls
  3 polar bears
  A slime creature (D:9)
  A two-headed ogre (D:10)
  39 blink frogs
  A queen bee (D:8)
  2 boulder beetles
  47 yaks
  6 wraiths
  6 wyverns
  16 hippogriffs
  A hungry ghost (D:9)
  10 basilisks
  A fire bat (Volcano)
  4 mottled dragons (Lair:8)
  3 steam dragons (Lair:8)
  4 wargs
  3 nagas (Lair:5)
  Menkaure (D:4)
  15 wolves (Lair:1)
  22 water moccasins
  3 ice beasts
  2 swamp drakes (Lair:8)
  A black bear (D:6)
  3 phantoms
  2 necrophages (D:9)
  3 sky beasts
  11 porcupines
  40 orc warriors
  3 wasps (Lair:8)
  6 spiders (Lair:8)
  10 ogres
  15 centaurs
  A big kobold (D:7)
  16 giant frogs
  14 crocodiles
  Blork the orc (D:5)
  4 scorpions
  3 water moccasin zombies (Ossuary)
  34 killer bees
  8 wights
  2 lava snakes (Volcano)
  7 crimson imps
  A centaur zombie (D:6)
  15 orc priests
  A giant frog skeleton (D:5)
  3 giant frog zombies
  9 hounds
  A gnoll shaman (D:7)
  A wasp zombie (D:9)
  3 human zombies (D:9)
  27 orc wizards
  A jelly (D:7)
  5 centaur skeletons
  7 iguanas
  A killer bee zombie (D:5)
  11 worker ants
  5 sheep
  4 big kobold zombies (Ossuary)
  3 hound skeletons
  5 mummies
  5 gnolls (D:7)
  A worker ant zombie (D:10)
  15 adders
  66 river rats
  3 shadow imps
  3 oozes
  7 adder zombies
  3 worms
  4 giant geckos
  148 orcs
  12 bats
  8 goblins
  12 hobgoblins
  14 jackals
  A quokka (D:8)
  3 ball pythons
  3 giant cockroaches (D:1)
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:8)
  A giant gecko zombie (D:7)
  7 giant newts
  2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary)
  6 hobgoblin zombies (Ossuary)
  9 kobolds
  3 kobold zombies
  8 orc zombies
  2 quokka skeletons
  14 rats
  A fungus (Lair:7)
  2 plants
934 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orc warrior (D:6)
  A centaur (D:6)
  A wight (D:6)
  An iguana (Lair:8)
  An orc (D:6)
  A goblin (D:2)
  A giant gecko (D:6)
  39 fungi
  39 plants
85 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1019 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Thogg the Ogre Wizard began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 5/5
   178 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
   350 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 1/6
   974 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/31 MP: 0/8
  1899 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 35/39 MP: 3/9
  2032 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Spellcasting
  2232 | D:2      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  2864 | D:2      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  2869 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
  2873 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
  2876 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
  2879 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
  2993 | D:3      | Noticed Thogg's ghost (amateur OgWz)
  3070 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 45/45 MP: 2/11
  3424 | D:3      | Noticed an ogre
  4348 | D:3      | Killed an ogre
  4645 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 53/53 MP: 9/13
  5263 | D:4      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  5362 | Ossuary  | Entered an ossuary
  5396 | Ossuary  | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  5877 | Ossuary  | Reached XP level 7. HP: 33/59 MP: 10/14
  6185 | Ossuary  | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  6458 | D:4      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  6660 | D:4      | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
  6710 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  7187 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations
  7324 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 65/67 MP: 9/15
  7386 | D:4      | Killed Menkaure
  7386 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
  7386 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
  7903 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  8033 | D:5      | Noticed Blork the orc
  8062 | D:5      | Killed Blork the orc
  8115 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic
  8585 | D:5      | Reached * piety under Vehumet
  8585 | D:5      | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet.
  9138 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 84/84 MP: 2/16
  9253 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  9287 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  9668 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  9789 | D:7      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 10137 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 10237 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
 10609 | D:6      | Reached ** piety under Vehumet
 10689 | D:6      | Offered knowledge of Throw Flame by Vehumet.
 10945 | D:7      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 11114 | D:7      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 11153 | D:7      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 11227 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic
 11574 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
 11574 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 96/100 MP: 10/17
 11679 | D:7      | Offered knowledge of Dazzling Spray by Vehumet.
 11679 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
 11708 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 12285 | D:8      | Reached *** piety under Vehumet
 12404 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
 12551 | D:8      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 12960 | D:8      | Noticed Erolcha
 13086 | D:8      | Killed Erolcha
 13086 | D:8      | Offered knowledge of Ignite Poison by Vehumet.
 13432 | D:7      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
 13793 | D:9      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
 13912 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 14095 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 110/113 MP: 16/18
 14097 | D:9      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 15035 | D:9      | Reached **** piety under Vehumet
 15097 | D:9      | Noticed a purple ugly thing
 15108 | D:9      | Killed a purple ugly thing
 15333 | D:9      | Offered knowledge of Static Discharge by Vehumet.
 15546 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 15726 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 15790 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 15808 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 16659 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 17304 | Orc:1    | Reached ***** piety under Vehumet
 17304 | Orc:1    | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Magma by Vehumet.
 17311 | Orc:1    | Learned a level 5 spell: Bolt of Magma
 18772 | Orc:1    | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 18776 | Orc:1    | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 18877 | Orc:3    | Noticed Maud
 19011 | Orc:2    | Killed Maud
 19011 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 19011 | Orc:2    | Reached XP level 12. HP: 46/128 MP: 1/19
 19315 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting
 19604 | Orc:3    | Found Tuzej's Jewellery Emporium.
 20111 | Orc:3    | Bought the ring of Yjicw {rN+ AC+6} for 1159 gold pieces
 20382 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 20661 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 21184 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 23509 | Orc:4    | Offered knowledge of Sticky Flame by Vehumet.
 23595 | Orc:4    | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame
 23731 | Orc:4    | Found Hetarono's Food Shop.
 23731 | Orc:4    | Found Inkipt's Jewellery Shoppe.
 23733 | Orc:4    | Found Gushifeph's Gadget Emporium.
 23736 | Orc:4    | Found Avoreot's Food Boutique.
 24757 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 25474 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 95/137 MP: 9/21
 25731 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 26630 | Lair:3   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 26631 | Lair:3   | Got a pitted hat
 26642 | Lair:3   | Identified the +0 hat of Amorality {rElec rN+} (You acquired it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 27993 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 28107 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 12 in Fighting
 28505 | Lair:4   | Reached ****** piety under Vehumet
 28968 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 30010 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 63/150 MP: 19/25
 30386 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire
 30666 | Lair:5   | Noticed Josephine
 30666 | Lair:5   | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet.
 30690 | Lair:5   | Killed Josephine
 31404 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 31405 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 31930 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 7 spell: Delayed Fireball
 32584 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 32823 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting
 33197 | Lair:7   | Found a dark tunnel.
 33210 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 33674 | Volcano  | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 33680 | Volcano  | Offered knowledge of Freezing Cloud by Vehumet.
 35342 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 36113 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 37153 | Lair:8   | Learned a level 6 spell: Freezing Cloud
 37161 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 143/161 MP: 24/30
 38569 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting
 38623 | Lair:8   | Offered knowledge of Poisonous Cloud by Vehumet.
 39769 | Lair:8   | Got a dazzling cloak
 39775 | Lair:8   | Identified the -6 cloak of Jemimopt {Regen+} (You acquired it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 40122 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |    11 |       |       |       |       ||    11
       Club              |    65 |       |       |       |       ||    65
       Whip              |       |    56 |   346 |  1257 |   487 ||  2146
       Giant spiked club |       |       |       |   102 |   567 ||   669
       Flail             |       |       |       |     7 |       ||     7
 Cast: Magic Dart        |   105 |   189 |   275 |   315 |    25 ||   909
       Conjure Flame     |       |    11 |    24 |    16 |    45 ||    96
       Mephitic Cloud    |       |       |     1 |    90 |    19 ||   110
       Sticky Flame      |       |       |       |    17 |   176 ||   193
       Bolt of Magma     |       |       |       |     2 |     7 ||     9
       Bolt of Fire      |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
       Blink             |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     5 |     1 |     3 ||     9
  Use: Scroll            |       |       |    11 |    16 |    17 ||    44
       Potion            |       |       |       |     1 |     5 ||     6
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     1 |     2 |     1 |       ||     4
       Confused          |       |       |       |    45 |     4 ||    49
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     6 |     5 |    39 |    28 ||    81
       Bread ration      |       |     2 |     1 |       |     3 ||     6
       Meat ration       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Beef jerky        |       |       |     2 |     2 |     6 ||    10
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     6 |     3 ||     9
       Pizza             |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |     4 ||     4



[njvack]

A +2 MR robe is pretty good, especially with +11 AC from jewelry. I'd probably enchant the cloak and wear the robe for now.