Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud


Ask fellow adventurers how to stay alive in the deep, dark, dangerous dungeon below, or share your own accumulated wisdom.

User avatar

Snake Sneak

Posts: 117

Joined: Sunday, 6th February 2011, 03:18

Post Friday, 15th July 2011, 15:08

Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

Hey folks,

I have a merfolk IE (but played more as a melee hybrid) going into the the V8/Zot stage. If I monkey with my INT rings, I can get level 6 spells to 0 hunger. So I was trying to decide between staying with Oz Refrig or going Freezing Cloud as my smite/AoE spell. (I don't have any significant Air or other elemental skills.)

I have read lots of posts saying Refrig is good, but the loss of pots is annoying. I have a preserve cloak and can stack a conserv amulet on top (tho I doubt that does anything). Even so, my pots go pop a lot.

Any suggestions here? Just suck it up on the pot losses and use Refrig? Or dump it and just use good ol Freezing Cloud?

Thnx.
Annotations
D:3 exclusion: Sigmund

Halls Hopper

Posts: 79

Joined: Monday, 4th April 2011, 02:55

Post Friday, 15th July 2011, 16:02

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

I'm not exactly sure, but I do think multiple sources of conservation do stack. At that point in the game I'd actually say that while pots are useful, they're not near as important as early in the game. For healing, you're much better off with a wand of healing. If you don't have one, then now's the time to use the scroll of acquirements you've been saving. The most important pot in late game is cure mutation, and you'd want to keep those in your stash until you need them. How much cold resistance do you have, is the self-damage not an issue?

They're both good spells, but I usually think of ozo's as a spell to use with lots of small-medium enemies, while cloud I use when I can get some stronger enemies stuck in a corridor. Throw icicle and bolt of cold are still important though, I'm sure you've got access to those.

Tartarus Sorceror

Posts: 1776

Joined: Monday, 21st February 2011, 15:57

Location: South Carolina

Post Friday, 15th July 2011, 16:09

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

Fridge is much easier to cast well, because it only has one school. And it can hurt widespread enemies on the same cast.

But cloud can hurt things for multiple turns while you run away or focus on another enemy, and it usually doesn't hurt you.

So learn both, and cast cloud or some other air spell to start learning Air, then keep using Fridge until you can cast Cloud well.

Dungeon Master

Posts: 1613

Joined: Thursday, 16th December 2010, 21:54

Post Friday, 15th July 2011, 16:59

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

Conservation from the amulet and cloak doesn't stack. If you only carry fairly small stacks of potions you usually won't lose very much at all, though.

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 3037

Joined: Sunday, 2nd January 2011, 02:06

Post Saturday, 16th July 2011, 01:11

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

It's well-worth using both. Freezing Cloud is for stacking damage on monsters you've funneled through a choke point, and Refrigeration is for assassinating monsters that haven't even noticed you yet. There's nothing quite like killing an entire pack of draconians without waking even a single one up.

Learn to accept routine potion losses. Only carry around a couple emergency potions, and you should have plenty of replacements back in your stash whenever you need one. Monsters start throwing more elemental attacks later on anyway, so by the time I'm running through the post-endgame I don't really expect to actually keep any of my consumables long enough to need them anyway. You might make a mini-stash near where you expect combat to take place, so you can more quickly replace losses without having to run all the way back.

Lair Larrikin

Posts: 16

Joined: Monday, 13th June 2011, 00:52

Post Monday, 18th July 2011, 02:10

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

Anyone know if ice form stops the potion loss? Or any other form?

Halls Hopper

Posts: 79

Joined: Monday, 4th April 2011, 02:55

Post Monday, 18th July 2011, 06:07

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

I can report that I've lost potions in ice form, but really doesn't happen often enough to not use it.
User avatar

Dungeon Master

Posts: 4031

Joined: Thursday, 16th December 2010, 20:37

Location: France

Post Monday, 18th July 2011, 09:18

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

Frandu wrote:Anyone know if ice form stops the potion loss? Or any other form?

It doesn't protect against refrig, but it does give immunity to freezing cloud (icemail does too). Which includes no shattering potion. This is probably a bug though. It's fine for icemail to protect your stuff (I guess), but I'm not sure if it's appropriate to have a form spell which gives equipment protection.
<+Grunt> You dereference an invalid pointer! Ouch! That really hurt! The game dies...
User avatar

Vestibule Violator

Posts: 1593

Joined: Thursday, 19th May 2011, 16:38

Location: Penza, Russia

Post Monday, 18th July 2011, 13:31

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

Icemail == OzoArmour?
If you find any mistakes or typos in my post, feel free to PM me about it. Thanks in advance!

The Verse flows throughout Aquaria...
Through each ripple and wave...
Through every living being...
The Verse binds us all as one.

Tartarus Sorceror

Posts: 1776

Joined: Monday, 21st February 2011, 15:57

Location: South Carolina

Post Monday, 18th July 2011, 13:32

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

MyOtheHedgeFox wrote:Icemail == OzoArmour?

I think it is the Demonspawn mutation.
User avatar

Slime Squisher

Posts: 332

Joined: Friday, 4th February 2011, 18:04

Location: The South, US

Post Monday, 18th July 2011, 21:47

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

+1.
Human kind cannot bear very much reality.
TSE

Mines Malingerer

Posts: 46

Joined: Wednesday, 12th January 2011, 08:44

Post Tuesday, 19th July 2011, 01:22

Re: Oz Refrig vs Freezing Cloud

I think item destruction is a nice way of teaching new players not to be pack rats. Why not use my scrolls of blinking when I'm likely to lose them later on anyway.

People are still going to stash items due to weight restrictions.

Return to Dungeon Crawling Advice

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 72 guests

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by ST Software for PTF.