[TRUNK] What happens when you carry 2 Stones of Tremors?

[XuaXua]

Is it advantageous to carry more than one of the same summoning evocable (Lamp of Fire, Phial of Floods, Stone of Tremors) type, since they all empty together?

If there is an advantage, it is not listed in the item description. If there isn't one, it might be helpful to add text similar to "All {name of item} are linked; there is no reason to carry more than one of these."

[njvack]

I think the game should only generate one of them in the first place.

[celem]

Well until recently they didnt empty together, so carrying many was totally viable and something I did a lot. I had a couple of winners that had 8-10 evokers on them (once 4 lamps, eat that antaeus). This is likely why theres not currently any note on them.

Now that they discharge together (if you find one on the floor while you carry one thats charging, the one on the floor is charging too) theres no purpose to carrying more than 1 of each.

But if you start checking to see if the player has got one when generating them then you are generating more useful items, we dont check like this anywhere else, the game will happily throw duplicates of standard items at you.

Why special-case it? You might make any elemental evocable already in inventory 'grey' on the floor/shops, much as certain god powers or species intrinsics can do the same thing on the fly (i carry berserk pots on a vamp and they grey as he hungers but come back to white if he satiates, so its not exactly a new mechanic)

[njvack]

Well, it's pretty clear that you can't use two plate armours at once. And there are lots of items that don't get repeatedly generated; you'll never ever see two of the same unrand.

The idea that this stone of tremors has somehow depleted all the other stones of tremors is also narratively strange. I'm not huge on simulationism, but this one does stand out for me.

Anyhow, don't check to see if the player has one in inventory, check to see if one exists in the stash tracker.

[XuaXua]

I say if you're doing that, then do the same for Staff of X. I've never found a need for more than one enhancer staff of the same type.

[celem]

The idea that this stone of tremors has somehow depleted all the other stones of tremors is also narratively strange. I'm not huge on simulationism, but this one does stand out for me.

Anyhow, don't check to see if the player has one in inventory, check to see if one exists in the stash tracker.

Yeah this happened a couple of times to me in runs which Is why I made note of it. It struck me as incongruous. Im not too simmy either, but its eyebrow-raising. I felt I should be able to drop my recharging one and pick up a full one.

[ajon]

Make it consumable and stackable like phantom mirror.

[dornbeast]

Or, for the really silly approach, make them stackable, and each extra one reduces the recharge time. Something like (recharge time)*(.95^(total stones -1)).

[Siegurt]

Also see this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14896&p=204614

[jejorda2]

Make them hats that only rech when you wear them.

[ajon]

Make them pink.