version 16a0743 blink contam?


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Post Wednesday, 24th September 2014, 07:44

version 16a0743 blink contam?

Reading a scroll in this version apparently causes contamination? I don't understand this change nor is it listed in the version information (?V) as a recent change. Anyone know why this has been done, if it is a change that will happen to the stable builds or is a temporary change just in trunk?

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Post Wednesday, 24th September 2014, 10:08

Re: version 16a0743 blink contam?

Using a scroll of blinking has always caused some contamination, so far as I recall. It may be that you rolled an unfavorable number, which stacked on top of a non-zero starting value that wasn't high enough to hit the threshold for grey glow.

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Post Wednesday, 24th September 2014, 10:09

Re: version 16a0743 blink contam?

If I understand your post correctly, then scrolls of blinking have caused contamination for a long time, unless you cancelled the blink after reading them. This also applies to every source of controlled teleportation and blinking. Not sure if the amount of contamination has been increased in Trunk so you noticed it for the first time?

Edit: according to wiki, this was introduced in 0.11
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Post Wednesday, 24th September 2014, 18:56

Re: version 16a0743 blink contam?

How interesting. This version is the first time I have noticed grey glow at all from blinking or teleporting. And it happens EVERY time now not just randomly. It is consistent so not based on a %. It may be that the changelog didn't note the increase in amount gained from every reading of it. Imho it is a disgusting nerf if that is the case. Mutations basically suck to begin with unless you enjoy that game. (I don't.) And !Cure Muts are fairly uncommon from my own experience anyway. (Though maybe they exist in greater numbers in the late game which I don't get to very often.)

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Post Wednesday, 24th September 2014, 19:00

Re: version 16a0743 blink contam?

Uncontrolled blinks/teleports shouldn't give any contam unless something changed; as far as I know controlled (and semicontrolled) blinks/teleports have given contam for quite some time, though it's possible the scroll has only done so recently.

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Post Wednesday, 24th September 2014, 19:55

Re: version 16a0743 blink contam?

Scroll has given contam for as long as I have played, since .12 at least. Are you using 3 blink scrolls in a row or something?

I noticed your OP didn't mention getting yellow contam, or mutating. Did those things happen, or are you only talking about grey contam?
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Post Thursday, 25th September 2014, 06:40

Re: version 16a0743 blink contam?

damiac wrote:Scroll has given contam for as long as I have played, since .12 at least. Are you using 3 blink scrolls in a row or something?

I noticed your OP didn't mention getting yellow contam, or mutating. Did those things happen, or are you only talking about grey contam?


1x scroll of blinking in .16 gives grey every time. I haven't dared try two in a row.
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Post Thursday, 25th September 2014, 07:28

Re: version 16a0743 blink contam?

But isn't one blink usually enough to get you out of the tight spot, so gray contamination doesn't actually matter?
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Post Thursday, 25th September 2014, 14:04

Re: version 16a0743 blink contam?

I mutated myself via multiple Controlled Blinks while hasted and I like it. The combo is very powerful so there should be some drawback.

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Post Thursday, 25th September 2014, 17:01

Re: version 16a0743 blink contam?

Yeah, multiple controlled blinks and hasting is going to get you some contam, and it should, like you say.

As far as I know, every time I have ever used a blink scroll, I have gotten grey contam, so I don't think anything has changed there. And I've used 2 in a row quite a few times without getting yellow contam. One blink is usually enough, but not always.

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