are there secret rooms in this sewer vault?

[tasonir]

My spidey sense is tingling, but there's stone walls all around it I can't dig. Assuming we don't need teleport to get in, you can dig out the glass walls on the sides and fly over the water, but this character doesn't fly...Anything interesting in there?

[crate]

This sewer is dumb. As you can see (bottom-left, top-left of your minimap) sometimes those are cracked open and you can go through. Sometimes they are closed off and you cannot get in.

[XuaXua]

There is also a nice end area that is only accessible never.

[Siegurt]

Solution: Always have Shatter online before entering any sewer vault!

[dck]

Tornado too in case there's deep water you have to cross.

[Zenonira]

Don't forget Fire Storm so you can block LoS using steam.

[diviton]

Tornado too in case there's deep water you have to cross.

Don't be ridiculous. Having Tornado online by THE SEWERS? That's just never going to happen, buddy.

Clearly, if you need to cross some water in the Sewer, Controlled Blink is the superior method. After you Shatter through the wall, of course.

[dck]

You go MuAK and scum the first three floors for ten thousand turns to get invo and piety for corrupt.

[daggaz]

Just avoid the sewers, they are full of adders and really dangerous rats and stuff and most characters will just end up dying. Definitely not worth the risk for a bunch of crappy potions.

[duvessa]

That's some of the worst advice I've seen on this forum, and that's saying a lot. I hope I'm just missing your sarcasm or something.
The risk in entering a portal vault is so low that it may as well be 0. For all portal vaults other than labyrinths and ziggurats, the exit is ALWAYS right next to the entrance. The only way entering one can possibly kill you is if an exceptionally powerful player ghost generates right next to the entrance too.
Yes you can die in portal vaults if you're unspoiled or not paying attention or just a colossal idiot but it will never happen just from entering one, you have to go and actually fight the frost giant or whatever. Telling people not to enter portal vaults at all is saying one of two things:
1. You think they're so completely stupid and terrible at the game that they will not understand it is possible to leave them, even when the exit starts within LOS.
2. You are.
While it is often reasonable to give simplified, possibly slightly wrong answers to questions when the right answers too long or difficult (telling people to avoid mutation potions/chunks altogether is a good example), I don't think it helps in any way to treat new players like they have less intelligence than some single-celled organisms.

[headcrab0803]

Just avoid the sewers, they are full of adders and really dangerous rats and stuff and most characters will just end up dying. Definitely not worth the risk for a bunch of crappy potions.

I once got 5 healwounds and 5curing and those load of potions carried me to midgame

[damiac]

Just avoid the sewers, they are full of adders and really dangerous rats and stuff and most characters will just end up dying. Definitely not worth the risk for a bunch of crappy potions.

Is this a sarcastic post, referencing the recent elf 3 discussions? Or just crappy advice in general?

Now, if we were talking about ice caves...

[njvack]

The risk in entering a portal vault is so low that it may as well be 0.

Wait, I thought you said in some other thread that it was possible to land directly in flame clouds in some volcanoes? Granted, that sounded like a bug to me.

[daggaz]

/irony

3+ highly ironic posts discussing the need for maxed out high level spells to enter a broken vault that loads well before those spells are ever online, followed by a yet another ironic post telling people to just stay out of vaults because rats and adders are dangerous, and you take that one seriously?

You guys are real quick hmm.

[duvessa]

The risk in entering a portal vault is so low that it may as well be 0.

Wait, I thought you said in some other thread that it was possible to land directly in flame clouds in some volcanoes? Granted, that sounded like a bug to me.

It was a bug and it got fixed.

3+ highly ironic posts discussing the need for maxed out high level spells to enter a broken vault that loads well before those spells are ever online, followed by a yet another ironic post telling people to just stay out of vaults because rats and adders are dangerous, and you take that one seriously?

In my defense, I've seen several serious occasions of people saying not to enter portals.

[Hirsch I]

ahhh, minmay... cue sitcom music.

[Runemage]

No really, what's in there?

[Arrhythmia]

probably just a kobold

[Cheibrodos]

Looks like it's a 50% chance to be either a big fish or an adder, if you were curious.

  Code:

############################################################################
# Cracked pipes. by co
# Most of the time the player will move between the pipes through cracks,
# these will be filled with rats. Only two of the paths will be generated
# each map, but all three pipes will be accessible on all instances.
# One map in three, will end in a harder rat nest containing a dangerous
# orange rat. The harder rat nest also contains cheese and more loot.
#
NAME:    sewer_co_cracked_pipes
TAGS:    no_item_gen no_monster_gen no_pool_fixup no_rotate no_vmirror
ORIENT:  encompass
#      water creatures
MONS:    giant newt / ball python w:5 / \
         generate_awake giant newt / generate_awake ball python w:5 / \
         adder w:2 / nothing w:4
KMONS:   2 = adder / big fish
KFEAT:   2 = W
COLOUR:  2 = lightgreen
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SHUFFLE: BC/DE/FG
NSUBST:  B = 1:. / *:c
NSUBST:  C = 1:. / *:c
SUBST:   DEFG = c
#      generate second path.
SHUFFLE: HI/JK/LM
NSUBST:  H = 1:. / *:c
NSUBST:  I = 1:. / *:c
SUBST:   LMKJ = c
#      randomize environment
KPROP:   V2 = no_tele_into
SUBST:   . = .W
SUBST:   V = .WWWW
SUBST:   X = xx"
#      Sometimes there's a rat nest in the end.
: if crawl.one_chance_in(3) then
NSUBST:  Y = 2:. /*:c
SUBST:   d = e
KMONS:   Z = nothing w:60 / rat / green rat w:7
KITEM:   Z = cheese w:2 / nothing
KMONS:   R = orange rat
KFEAT:   ' = .
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SUBST:   Y = c
SUBST:   d = x
KFEAT:   Z = x
KFEAT:   R = x
KFEAT:   ' = x
: end
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KPROP:   " = no_tele_into
KMONS:   " = nothing w:50 / rat w:15 / green rat w:7
KPROP:   w = no_tele_into
#      loot
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         scroll of recharging w:2 / scroll of fog w:3
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[KoboldLord]

The vault is designed that way to randomize where the path to the next section will be. The designer just decided to have the game generate all three possible paths, and just randomly close off two of them. It's a rather brute-force method to randomize a sewer vault that you designed, but it's pretty easy to write. You are not intended to be able to get in, and that's not where the treasure spawns anyway. It's just a bunch of rats in the walls and stuff like that. Ignore the skittering noises.

[GlassGo]

probably just a kobold

Or maybe a Batman. Or Hannibal Lecter. I'll never know.

[XuaXua]

You are not intended to be able to get in, and that's not where the treasure spawns anyway.

Yeah, the treasure only ever generates never in that closed off room you will never enter at the top. Ever.

Maybe one time once.

[Lyrick]

probably just a kobold

Or maybe a Batman. Or Hannibal Lecter. I'll never know.

The stone wall shatters into pieces.
Lom Lobon glares at you!

[tasonir]

You are not intended to be able to get in, and that's not where the treasure spawns anyway.

Yeah, the treasure only ever generates never in that closed off room you will never enter at the top. Ever.

Maybe one time once.

I'm not sure how many times I've done this vault, I'd say probably 4-5 times...I've never once seen the top vault generate. Now I'm sad because I know it could be there.