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GlassGo wrote:What is "plaing normally"?
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GlassGo wrote:What is "plaing normally"?
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GlassGo wrote:What is "plaing normally"?
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Magipi wrote:I guess he means: playing to win. (And not playing to max out all your skills).
By the way, what is SF? Spider form?
Patashu wrote:The idea is that if you are doing things like zigs, grinding pan infinitely for fun and skills, etc. you already are in a 'beat the game easily' state and further improvement is only marginal. So just go beat the game already!
You don't need the best, most optimized weapon, the best, most optimized armour or the best, most optimized skills to beat Crawl. Why? Because good positioning and threat management and use of consumables is a bigger 'multiplier' of how well your character takes on Crawl's dangerous elements by an order of magnitude than squeezing tiny obvious-only-if-you-sourcedive improvements out of your build. For instance, if you fight three things simultaneously when you could have fought them one by one, then you 'double' your danger (total amount of enemy turns taken while you are fighting). Four things simultaneously, x2.5, and so on. And that's just one aspect of positioning alone that matters more than any amount of juggling build stuff.
As a result, if you can't notice just by playing if X or Y is better, it's not a big enough difference to matter.
Zicher wrote:GlassGo wrote:What is "plaing normally"?
Without intentional Pan/Abyss scumming, at least once you have all the runes from those places.
and into wrote:So instead of going from Fighting 22 to Fighting 27 you could get, e.g., enough translocations for phase shift and controlled blink, and probably increase your chance to survive much more drastically by doing that. (Of course this assumes those spells are available, but it is just an example; substitute "enough necromancy to cast revivification" or "enough charms/air to cast deflect missiles and haste," as applicable based on what is accessable to your character.)
So realistically the only time you'll max out fighting, for instance, involve 1.) continuing to play long after a point at which you could have ascended or 2.) being MiBe or the like, just because you don't have that much stuff to train anyway and so you decide to max those skills out rather than get more evocations or whatnot.
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GlassGo wrote:What is "plaing normally"?
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tasonir wrote:Because no one ever answered the first question, here you go.
All skills, even magic, set to 27, level 27, statue and blade hands both vs a stone giant. Done in version 13.1, seems like the mac build didn't update to 13.2? Anyways, don't think the formulas for this have changed. I had no equipment, ie, rings.
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Not exactly. I plan 15 rune run, non less. About 4-5 times already I could do 3 rune, but I don't want it.
And to get all 15 runes, I need all the support that is possible at all.
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crate wrote:aveffdam is all you need to know from fsim output in a large majority of cases
(you might note that aveffdam is equal to avdam times avspeed, so this should answer your question)
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tasonir wrote:Because no one ever answered the first question, here you go.
All skills, even magic, set to 27, level 27, statue and blade hands both vs a stone giant. Done in version 13.1, seems like the mac build didn't update to 13.2? Anyways, don't think the formulas for this have changed. I had no equipment, ie, rings.
Igxfl wrote:For practical purposes, though, the OpTm Statue Form vs. Blade Hands question is less related to damage than it is to whether you want to have good defenses but also be slow.
TheDefiniteArticle wrote:In extended you regularly have to deal with torment and hellfire, which completely ignore all your defenses. And if you can even clear Zot (let alone grind it) you have good enough damage-dealing to kill anything except possibly the hellpan lords, but they're dangerous enough that even if you can fight them, you may want to ninja their runes anyway.
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GlassGo wrote:That's why I need every piece of HP, ie Fighting. The only thing I was really scared last time - silver stars, because my char was really heavily mutated - like 8-10 mutations. But, anyway, he died while trying to find Necronomicon.
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tasonir wrote:One of the biggest benefits of statue form in extended is going to be the torment resistance, anyways, which also doesn't show up here. I did think that it showed the defensive trade offs quite well, though. Statue form never takes more than 30 damage, with an average hit of only 8 damage, but gets hit twice as much as blade hands.
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<wheals> ??octopode barding
<Sequell> hat[1/1]: A hat at +0 does not boost AC, but can be enchanted. Note that a +0 hat is better than nothing against acid attacks, though the hat is vulnerable to corrosion from that attack. Characters with horns/antennae 1/2 can wear hats. Possible brands: 3/8 30 MR, 1/4 SInv, 1/4 Int+3, 1/8 spirit shield.
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Mankeli wrote:OpTm has a terrible start in general. And Chei certainly doesn't make it easier. So if you want to use blade hands before your char dies, I'd advice to try with a different species first.
Edit. I'm not sure if I understood what you meant in your post. Another note: I actually like statue form for octopodes if you insist on constantly being melee range bashing enemies with an octopode.
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GlassGo wrote:O! I thought he speak about thing, that nagas\centaurs can wear.
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SH does help against ranged attacks, yes, but your AC/EV are still your primary line of defense. Build those up more, and you won't need SH.
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.1 (tiles) character file.
1097299 ZeroXYZ the Conqueror (level 27, 0/224 HPs)
Began as an Octopode Transmuter on Jan 18, 2014.
Was a Follower of Kikubaaqudgha.
Slain by a purple draconian monk (3 damage)
... on Level 5 of the Realm of Zot on Jan 31, 2014.
The game lasted 2days 01:12:10 (435320 turns).
ZeroXYZ the Conqueror (Octopode Transmuter) Turns: 435320, Time: 2, 01:12:11
HP 0/224 AC 12 Str 16 XL: 27
MP 37/42 EV 42 Int 27 God: Kikubaaqudgha [*.....]
Gold 7280 SH 33 Dex 16 Spells: 15 memorised, 9 levels left
Res.Fire : + + . See Invis. : + - Unarmed
Res.Cold : + + + Warding : . X - +5 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+}
Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . P - +0 mask of the Dragon {MR+ Acc+3 Dam+3 SInv}
Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . b - amulet "Qiarpha" {rMut rF+ Stlth-}
Res.Elec. : + Clarity : . k - +0,+5 ring of slaying
Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . V - ring of sustenance
Res.Mut. : + Stasis : . m - +6 ring of protection
Res.Rott. : . Flight : . l - +5 ring of evasion
Saprovore : . . . W - ring of sustenance
n - +4 ring of protection
r - ring of positive energy
h - ring of the Mage {Wiz MR+ Int+3}
@: repel missiles, mighty, agile, very slightly contaminated, hasted, very
quick, uncannily resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy
A: almost no armour, amphibious, 8 rings, constrict 8, beak, camouflage 1,
blurry vision 3, cold resistance 2, deformed body, magic resistance 1, poison
resistance, electricity resistance, AC +2, Int -2, Dex -2
a: Receive Corpses, Renounce Religion
}: 5/15 runes: barnacled, slimy, silver, golden, gossamer
You were on level 5 of the Realm of Zot.
You worshipped Kikubaaqudgha.
Kikubaaqudgha was aware of your devotion.
You were very full.
You visited 15 branches of the dungeon, and saw 85 of its levels.
You visited 1 bazaar.
You also visited: Labyrinth, Bailey, Volcano and Wizlab.
You collected 13432 gold pieces.
You spent 6172 gold pieces at shops.
Inventory:
Armour
y - a +0 storm dragon hide
L - a +0 ice dragon hide
P - the +0 mask of the Dragon (worn) {MR+ Acc+3 Dam+3 SInv}
(You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
It affects your accuracy (+3).
It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3).
It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
It enhances your eyesight.
Q - a +0 storm dragon hide
X - the +5 shield of Resistance (worn) {rF+ rC+ MR+}
(You found it on level 23 of the Dungeon)
It protects you from fire.
It protects you from cold.
It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Magical devices
u - a wand of enslavement (1)
I - a wand of teleportation (1)
M - a wand of paralysis (14)
Comestibles
E - 12 strawberries
Scrolls
t - a scroll of identify
w - 3 scrolls of teleportation
x - 2 scrolls of blinking
S - a scroll of summoning
U - a scroll of curse armour
Jewellery
a - an uncursed amulet of the gourmand
b - the amulet "Qiarpha" (around mantle) {rMut rF+ Stlth-}
(You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Dungeon)
[amulet of resist mutation]
It protects you from fire.
It makes you much less stealthy.
c - the amulet of the Tempest {Clar Str+3 Int+3}
(You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
[amulet of clarity]
It affects your strength (+3).
It affects your intelligence (+3).
d - a cursed amulet of stasis
e - a cursed amulet of resist corrosion
f - the cursed amulet "Lamosk" {Ward MR++}
(You took it off a vampire mage on level 4 of the Crypt)
[amulet of warding]
It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
It has a curse placed upon it.
g - a cursed amulet of conservation
h - the ring of the Mage (on tentacle) {Wiz MR+ Int+3}
(You took it off a deep elf knight on level 18 of the Dungeon)
[ring of wizardry]
It affects your intelligence (+3).
It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
i - the ring "Ketifecu" {+/*Tele +Rage rF+ Acc+5}
(You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
[ring of teleportation]
It affects your accuracy (+5).
It protects you from fire.
It lets you go berserk.
j - the ring of the Ant {Hunger rN+ Dex-1 Acc+6}
(You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
[ring of hunger]
It affects your dexterity (-1).
It affects your accuracy (+6).
It protects you from negative energy.
k - a +0,+5 ring of slaying (left tentacle)
l - a +5 ring of evasion (on tentacle)
m - a +6 ring of protection (on tentacle)
n - a +4 ring of protection (on tentacle)
o - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
p - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
q - an uncursed ring of regeneration
r - a ring of positive energy (on tentacle)
s - an uncursed ring of positive energy
G - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
V - a ring of sustenance (right tentacle)
W - a ring of sustenance (on tentacle)
Potions
v - 6 potions of speed
B - a potion of might
C - a potion of resistance
Books
N - Kikubaaqudgha's Almanac of Dark Secrets
(Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you on level 5 of the Realm of Zot)
Spells Type Level
Animate Skeleton Necromancy 1
Lethal Infusion Charms/Necromancy 2
Corpse Rot Necromancy 2
Vampiric Draining Necromancy 3
Control Undead Necromancy 4
Magical staves
H - an uncursed staff of energy
Miscellaneous
D - a legendary deck of defence {Solitude, drawn: 2}
F - an ornate deck of war {Solitude}
J - a legendary deck of changes {the Alchemist, drawn: 4}
Carrion
R - a storm dragon skeleton
Rods
A - a +3 rod of inaccuracy (16/16)
(You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)
T - a cursed +9 rod of warding (16/16)
(You found it on level 1 of the Realm of Zot)
Skills:
O Level 27 Fighting
O Level 27 Dodging
O Level 27 Stealth
- Level 15,8 Shields
O Level 27 Unarmed Combat
- Level 13,0 Spellcasting
- Level 6,8 Hexes
- Level 11,3 Charms
* Level 12,1 Summonings
- Level 15,1 Necromancy
- Level 7,0 Translocations
- Level 20,0 Transmutations
- Level 7,0 Ice Magic
- Level 7,0 Air Magic
- Level 20,0 Earth Magic
- Level 7,0 Poison Magic
Level 16,8 Invocations
- Level 20,0 Evocations
You had 9 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Spider Form Trmt/Pois ######.... 1% 3 None
b - Ice Form Ice/Trmt ######.... 1% 4 None
c - Statue Form Trmt/Erth #######... 1% 6 ####...
d - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 2 None
e - Stoneskin Trmt/Erth #######... 0% 2 None
f - Regeneration Chrm/Necr ######.... 1% 3 None
g - Corona Hex ######. 1% 1 None
h - Flight Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 3 None
i - Confusing Touch Hex ######.... 1% 1 None
j - Summon Butterflies Summ ######.. 1% 1 None
k - Dig Erth #######. 0% 4 None
l - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #####... 1% 3 None
m - Apportation Tloc ######.... 1% 1 None
n - Mass Abjuration Summ ######.... 1% 6 ####...
o - Call Canine Familiar Summ ######.... 1% 3 None
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (27/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (4/4) D:11
Elf (3/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:11 Shoals (5/5) Lair:6
Spider (5/5) Lair:4 Slime (6/6) Lair:7 Vaults (5/5) D:18
Blade (1/1) Vaults:4 Crypt (5/5) Vaults:2 Tomb (3/3) Crypt:2
Dis (6/7) Hell Geh (0/7) Hell Coc (0/7) Hell
Tar (0/7) Hell Zot (5/5) D:27
Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One
Beogh
Shops:
D:5 =}* D:19 [ Orc:1 } Orc:4 *[}+( Elf:3 / Shoals:3 =
Vaults:2 [ Vaults:5 %!%
Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27
Abyss: D:23 D:24 D:25
Pandemonium: D:24
Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations
You cannot wear most types of armour.
You are amphibious.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.*
You can use your tentacles to constrict many enemies at once.*
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stlth).*
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks (AC +1).*
You have a beak for a mouth.*
You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1).*
Your vision is extremely blurry.
You are clumsy. (Dex -2)
Your flesh is very cold resistant.*
Your body is misshapen.*
You are dopey. (Int -2)
You are resistant to hostile enchantments.
Your system is resistant to poisons.*
You are resistant to electric shocks.*
Message History
The purple draconian monk barely misses you.
You block the purple draconian monk's attack.
The mottled draconian monk hits you but does no damage.
You block the mottled draconian monk's attack.
The draconian zombie hits you but does no damage.
You revert to your normal fleshy form. Your skin feels tender.
The white draconian is engulfed in poison gas.
The white draconian looks even sicker.
You block the purple draconian monk's attack.
The purple draconian monk completely misses you.
The mottled draconian monk misses you.
The mottled draconian monk completely misses you.
The white draconian is engulfed in poison gas.
The white draconian looks even sicker.
The white draconian rages.
The green draconian zealot completely misses you.
The purple draconian monk completely misses you.
The purple draconian monk kicks you.
You die...
Kikubaaqudgha rasps: "You have failed me! Welcome... death!"
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You could see 2 draconians, a green draconian, a white draconian (berserk), a
green draconian zealot and a draconian zombie.
Vanquished Creatures
the royal jelly (Slime:6)
3 orbs of fire (Zot:1)
Khufu (Crypt:4)
A player illusion (D:24)
5 ancient liches
40 greater mummies
Saint Roka (Orc:4)
Boris (D:25)
Sojobo (Crypt:4)
Margery (Vaults:2)
Norris (D:18)
Mara (D:24)
Mennas (D:24)
Geryon (Hell)
11 Brimstone Fiends
5 curse toes
Jory (D:24)
3 electric golems
Xtahua (D:24)
2 illusory Maras (D:24)
26 golden dragons
A profane servitor (Crypt:5)
Nikola (Shoals:1)
30 bone dragons
13 Hell Sentinels
47 tentacled monstrosities
5 Shadow Fiends
2 deep elf blademasters (Elf:3)
11 Ice Fiends
Murray (Hell)
16 liches
A titan (Vaults:4)
23 acid blobs
A quicksilver dragon (D:21)
A deep elf master archer (Elf:3)
12 eldritch tentacles
8 Executioners
39 storm dragons
4 krakens
13 sphinxes
Rupert (Lair:3)
Agnes (Tomb:1)
24 tengu reavers
Frances (Spider:2)
18 shadow dragons
5 revenants
10 ancient champions
Roxanne (D:18)
18 draconian monks
Ilsuiw (Shoals:5)
15 fire giants
12 azure jellies
An azure jelly (shapeshifter) (D:21)
22 vault wardens
3 ghost moths (shapeshifter)
Donald (Crypt:4)
Wiglaf (D:18)
13 frost giants
6 draconian scorchers
7 ghost moths
9 draconian knights
12 deep elf sorcerers
5 iron dragons
5 emperor scorpions
4 ghouls (Crypt:5)
Aizul (Crypt:1)
23 draconian zealots
8 cacodemons
3 balrugs
Gastronok (D:8)
Jorgrun (Spider:5)
110 reapers
25 draconian annihilators
75 stone giants
7 eidola
22 green draconians
16 grey draconians
12 draconian shifters
10 draconian callers
8 deep elf annihilators
9 deep elf demonologists
3 blizzard demons
5 vampire knights
27 purple draconians
10 lorocyprocas
20 red draconians
7 green deaths
23 pale draconians
The ghost of ZeroXYZ the Spry, a powerful OpTm of Cheibriados (D:17)
21 black draconians
18 mottled draconians
17 white draconians
22 yellow draconians
5 merfolk javelineers
2 unborn (Crypt:5)
13 ettins
6 merfolk impalers
33 mummy priests
9 deep elf death magi
36 vault guards
51 jiangshi
A dragon (shapeshifter) (D:27)
34 dragons
3 deep elf high priests (Elf:3)
A minotaur (shapeshifter) (D:18)
A minotaur (Lab)
68 yaktaur captains
8 sirens
17 death cobs
14 death oozes
8 great orbs of eyes
16 ironheart preservers
Fannar (D:10)
A hydra (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
Josephine (Orc:2)
42 ice dragons
8 merfolk aquamancers
22 hydras
2 ravenous feature mimics
4 large abominations
A spectral human (Vaults:5)
Erica (Lair:2)
An alligator (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
25 dancing weapons
An anaconda (shapeshifter) (D:26)
4 alligator snapping turtles
A spectral fire giant (Crypt:4)
3 spectral stone giants
20 deep troll earth magi
12 death yaks
2 rakshasas
33 deep troll shamans
2 spectral elves (Elf:3)
5 deep dwarf death knights
10 vampire magi
6 plague shamblers
A titan zombie (Vaults:5)
62 centaur warriors
24 ogre magi
17 very ugly things
5 orc high priests
21 hell hogs
4 fire crabs
12 sun demons
2 catoblepae
13 iron trolls
37 soul eaters
170 skeletal warriors
21 ice devils
6 iron golems
33 deep elf knights
5 hell knights
3 storm dragon skeletons
6 wizards
6 hell beasts
66 deep trolls
28 sea snakes
9 shadow demons
12 unseen horrors
11 death drakes
35 flayed ghosts
Erolcha (D:25)
13 shadow wraiths
3 golden dragon skeletons
4 ice statues (D:22)
3 giant orange brains
52 orc knights
6 deathcaps
A deep troll (shapeshifter) (D:21)
A giant orange brain (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
A shadow dragon zombie (D:27)
3 lindwurms
25 giant amoebae
34 hill giants
2 tengu skeletons
20 ironbrand convokers
A hill giant (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
2 wolf spider zombies (Crypt:1)
14 necromancers
5 crystal golems (D:25)
A spectral ettin (Crypt:5)
41 harpies
3 fire giant zombies
A harpy (shapeshifter) (D:19)
15 orc sorcerers
18 human zombies
12 sixfirhies
3 shining eyes (shapeshifter)
131 iron dragon zombies
37 cyclopes
3 shadow dragon skeletons
6 oklob plants
39 phantasmal warriors
21 deep elf conjurers
25 hellions
61 wolf spiders
5 draconian zombies
15 shining eyes
2 sphinx skeletons
16 stone giant zombies
A wolf spider (shapeshifter) (D:26)
22 griffons
3 frost giant zombies
21 flaming corpses
15 iron dragon skeletons
7 spiny worms
2 red wasps (shapeshifter)
13 red wasps
6 stone golems
A cyclops (shapeshifter) (D:27)
2 elephants (shapeshifter)
10 fire giant skeletons
An item mimic (Lair:5)
Maurice (Orc:3)
89 moths of wrath
30 deep elf summoners
A black mamba (shapeshifter) (D:23)
A spiny worm (shapeshifter) (D:26)
A dire elephant zombie (Crypt:5)
34 stone giant skeletons
An eye of devastation (Slime:6)
4 frost giant skeletons
8 black mambas
14 elephants
19 vault sentinels
12 orange demons
50 tormentors
A queen ant (Spider:2)
4 black draconian zombies
2 grey draconian zombies (Zot:1)
2 pale draconian zombies
A feature mimic (Orc:3)
2 yellow draconian zombies
3 efreet
An emperor scorpion zombie (Crypt:2)
3 purple draconian zombies (Zot:1)
A yaktaur (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
20 spiny frogs
135 yaktaurs
A sea snake zombie (Crypt:3)
13 smoke demons
A red draconian zombie (D:27)
17 demonic crawlers
26 red devils
An orb spider (shapeshifter) (D:19)
A white draconian zombie (D:27)
121 guardian mummies
3 moths of suppression
6 iron troll zombies
4 silent spectres
6 fire drakes
2 queen bees (shapeshifter)
A black draconian skeleton (Hell)
23 deep elf priests
24 mermaids
68 iron devils
12 small abominations
27 orb spiders
A spectral glowing shapeshifter (Crypt:4)
A spriggan (shapeshifter) (D:20)
49 blue devils
A hydra zombie (D:16)
A ghoul skeleton (Crypt:5)
A komodo dragon (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
A polar bear (Lair:3)
11 hellwings
26 komodo dragons
2 iron troll skeletons
41 jumping spiders
27 trolls
A spectral red wasp (Crypt:5)
A moth of wrath zombie (Zot:1)
A wind drake (shapeshifter) (D:23)
10 humans
A baby alligator (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
A harpy skeleton (Crypt:2)
3 griffon zombies
16 brown oozes
A giant leech (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
3 stone giant simulacra
32 snapping turtles
2 frost giant simulacra
2 ravens (shapeshifter)
20 boulder beetles
3 ettin zombies
A hydra skeleton (D:9)
54 two-headed ogres
6 basilisks
2 fire giant simulacra
A red wasp zombie (Crypt:4)
A trapdoor spider zombie (Crypt:1)
35 blink frogs
A sphinx simulacrum (Crypt:4)
14 wandering mushrooms
A boulder beetle (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
2 grizzly bears
2 snapping turtles (shapeshifter)
2 octopodes (shapeshifter)
A griffon skeleton (D:14)
A jumping spider (shapeshifter) (D:25)
52 shadows
A basilisk (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
93 redbacks
7 ynoxinuls
2 dragon skeletons (D:17)
5 ettin skeletons
A guardian serpent skeleton (Crypt:2)
A redback (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
A spectral giant firefly (Crypt:4)
140 flying skulls
4 toenail golems (D:25)
6 air elementals (Crypt:4)
42 tarantellas
51 wraiths
92 yaks
131 slime creatures
36 trapdoor spiders
285 ugly things
2 dire elephant simulacra
A yak (shapeshifter) (D:18)
2 elephant slugs (Lair:7)
3 tarantellas (shapeshifter)
3 wyverns
A merfolk (shapeshifter) (D:26)
4 golden eyes (Slime:2)
A golden eye (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
36 hippogriffs
6 water elementals
2 metal gargoyles (Hell)
19 sharks
20 vampires
7 hill giant zombies
73 deep elf magi
A spectral komodo dragon (Crypt:5)
94 merfolk
2 wind drake skeletons
6 neqoxecs
Grum (Orc:2)
9 chaos spawn
A steam dragon (shapeshifter) (D:16)
2 spiny worm zombies
11 clay golems
5 rock worms
2 steam dragons
A rock worm (shapeshifter) (D:23)
A soldier ant (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
4 hill giant skeletons
A plague shambler skeleton (Crypt:5)
25 hungry ghosts
30 manticores
60 vampire mosquitoes
83 deep elf fighters
17 soldier ants
12 wolves
An iron troll simulacrum (Tomb:3)
34 freezing wraiths
An agate snail zombie (Crypt:2)
2 deep troll zombies
24 porcupines
171 hell hounds
A sky beast (shapeshifter) (D:25)
8 swamp drakes
8 mottled dragons
A spiny frog zombie (Crypt:4)
A baby alligator skeleton (Crypt:1)
16 necrophages
4 kobold demonologists
42 ice beasts
3 black bears
A deep dwarf (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
117 orc warriors
7 sky beasts
9 deep troll skeletons
5 yellow wasps
14 phantoms
A yellow wasp (shapeshifter) (D:25)
10 giant goldfish
A merfolk zombie (Crypt:1)
A boring beetle (shapeshifter) (D:18)
83 ogres
A lindwurm skeleton (Crypt:2)
34 crocodiles
4 lost souls
A giant firefly simulacrum (Crypt:2)
A spiny worm simulacrum (D:17)
3 brain worms
77 centaurs
A spectral boulder beetle (Crypt:4)
9 rotting devils
A boring beetle (Lair:6)
A giant slug (shapeshifter) (D:27)
A giant frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
19 giant slugs
15 wargs
5 yaktaur zombies
A giant slug zombie (Vaults:1)
10 big kobolds
A silver statue (Tomb:1)
A gnoll sergeant (D:8)
29 water moccasins
5 cyclops zombies
41 giant frogs
6 yaktaur skeletons
An agate snail (shapeshifter) (D:27)
21 agate snails
A deep troll simulacrum (Vaults:2)
A human skeleton (Vaults:5)
A manticore zombie (D:7)
A komodo dragon skeleton (D:11)
A wyvern skeleton (Crypt:3)
11 jellyfish
A cyclops skeleton (D:7)
2 manticore skeletons
2 troll zombies
2 boulder beetle zombies
A grizzly bear zombie (Crypt:4)
17 eyes of draining
4 elf zombies
2 rock worm zombies
6 fire bats (Volcano)
28 killer bees
2 draconian skeletons
A troll skeleton (D:14)
93 wights
2 yak skeletons (Crypt:1)
26 crimson imps
A hippogriff skeleton (D:11)
A pulsating lump (Slime:6)
2 boring beetle zombies
9 goliath beetles
A lava fish (Volcano)
3 centaur zombies
12 quasits
A soldier ant zombie (D:14)
A basilisk zombie (Crypt:4)
A goliath beetle (shapeshifter) (Zot:1)
22 jellies
14 big fish
6 lava snakes
71 orc wizards
A giant frog skeleton (D:10)
40 orc priests
2 two-headed ogre skeletons
2 two-headed ogre zombies
A yaktaur simulacrum (D:19)
25 hounds
19 spiders
14 scorpions
21 iguanas
68 iron imps
A boulder beetle simulacrum (Crypt:2)
45 worker ants
3 killer bee zombies
34 orange rats
A shapeshifter simulacrum (D:18)
A crocodile zombie (Crypt:3)
3 ogre zombies
28 sheep
A mottled dragon zombie (D:17)
A sky beast zombie (D:7)
A necrophage skeleton (Crypt:5)
2 big kobold skeletons (D:12)
A gnome zombie (Crypt:4)
A spider zombie (Crypt:3)
2 ogre skeletons
2 hound skeletons (Crypt:4)
A spectral orange rat (Hell)
11 boggarts
2 spectral orcs (Vaults:3)
7 gnolls
111 mummies
2 orange rat skeletons (Hell)
A mottled dragon simulacrum (D:16)
4 orange rat zombies (Hell)
58 green rats
6 lemures
A worm zombie (Crypt:2)
43 adders
12 giant centipedes
An orange rat simulacrum (Hell)
6 shadow imps
8 white imps
4 giant mites
A giant mite (shapeshifter) (D:23)
A goliath beetle zombie (D:8)
10 worms
2 worms (shapeshifter)
44 ufetubi
An iguana zombie (D:7)
A scorpion zombie (D:9)
A grey rat (D:8)
An iguana skeleton (D:9)
2 adder skeletons
12 giant eyeballs
13 giant geckos
6 oozes
293 orcs
11 giant cockroaches
41 goblins
26 hobgoblins
48 jackals
A kobold (shapeshifter) (D:27)
14 quokkas
53 bats
3 giant gecko skeletons
6 giant newts
3 giant spores
A goblin skeleton (Orc:2)
A green rat zombie (Crypt:2)
A hobgoblin skeleton (D:9)
2 hobgoblin zombies
9 illusory rakshasas (D:19)
A jackal zombie (D:6)
65 kobolds
A kobold zombie (D:7)
4 orc skeletons
5 orc zombies
45 rats
39 ballistomycetes
3 bushes
12 butterflies
2 crawling corpses (Elf:3)
An eldritch tentacle segment (Dis:2)
24 fungi
39 plants
17 tentacles
A tentacle segment (Shoals:3)
40 toadstools (WizLab)
8320 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
2 red devils (Hell)
2 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (others)
2 eldritch tentacles
A tengu reaver (D:25)
A shadow demon (Vaults:3)
A soul eater (Hell)
2 deep elf knights
4 deep elf conjurers
A hill giant (D:15)
A griffon (D:22)
A stone giant skeleton (Tomb:1)
A deep elf summoner (Elf:1)
2 guardian mummies (Tomb:2)
A fire drake (Zot:2)
A troll (D:19)
A komodo dragon (Zot:2)
A wandering mushroom (Zot:4)
An ettin zombie (Tomb:1)
A two-headed ogre (Vaults:1)
A frost giant simulacrum (Tomb:2)
A redback (Spider:5)
An ettin skeleton (Tomb:3)
A water elemental (Shoals:5)
An ugly thing (D:23)
3 deep elf fighters
A redback simulacrum (Tomb:3)
A hell hound (Dis:2)
A human (Crypt:4)
A swamp drake (Zot:2)
2 ogres (D:21)
A human zombie (Vaults:4)
8 lost souls
7 centaurs
2 orc warriors (Vaults:5)
A wight (Dis:2)
An orc wizard (Vaults:5)
A spider (Spider:1)
4 orange rats
2 boggarts (D:14)
14 mummies
2 lemures (Vaults:5)
A shadow imp (Elf:3)
7 ufetubi
3 orcs
2 kobolds (D:14)
6 giant spores
A hobgoblin zombie (D:8)
A ballistomycete (D:10)
175 butterflies
193 eldritch tentacle segments
19 fungi
9 plants
23 tentacles
701 tentacle segments
30 toadstools
1251 creatures vanquished.
Grand Total: 9573 creatures vanquished
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
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0 | D:1 | ZeroXYZ, the Octopode Transmuter, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 1/1
130 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 8/18 MP: 0/3
349 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 21/23 MP: 4/4
370 | D:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Spider Form
914 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
1490 | D:2 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
1539 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 25/28 MP: 6/6
2182 | D:3 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
2183 | D:3 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
2322 | D:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Poison Magic
2322 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 25/33 MP: 7/7
3369 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
3460 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom
3703 | D:3 | Learned a level 4 spell: Ice Form
3845 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 31/38 MP: 7/9
4846 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
5016 | D:5 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 5 turns
5207 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 43/43 MP: 7/10
5346 | D:5 | Found Acalom's General Store.
5461 | D:5 | Found Apheym's Food Boutique.
5466 | D:5 | Found Pusegym's Gadget Shoppe.
6000 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
6662 | D:5 | Found Daeklull's Jewellery Shoppe.
6689 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
7627 | D:3 | Killed a phantom
7627 | D:3 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 44/49 MP: 12/12
8081 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
8149 | D:6 | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
8936 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
9237 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/54 MP: 13/13
9299 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
9368 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
9560 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Cheibriados the Contemplative
9810 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations
10276 | D:7 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
10285 | D:7 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
10391 | D:7 | Acquired Cheibriados' first power
10606 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat
11051 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
12020 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
12020 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 36/53 MP: 18/18
12222 | D:8 | Noticed Gastronok
12701 | D:8 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
13372 | D:9 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
13413 | D:9 | Noticed an orc knight
13513 | D:9 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
13569 | D:9 | Identified the Disquisition on the Oath and Cold
13572 | D:9 | Learned a level 1 spell: Confusing Touch
13574 | D:9 | Learned a level 1 spell: Corona
13821 | D:9 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
13821 | D:9 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
14159 | D:9 | Killed an orc knight
14159 | D:9 | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
14776 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
14776 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant
14794 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant
14928 | D:10 | Noticed Fannar
15133 | D:6 | Acquired Cheibriados' second power
15815 | D:10 | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat
16033 | D:10 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
16307 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant
16320 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant
16320 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 57/57 MP: 20/20
16581 | D:10 | Acquired Cheibriados' third power
17263 | D:10 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
18463 | D:10 | Killed Fannar
18463 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
18463 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
18515 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant
18527 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant
18894 | D:11 | Got a crude hand axe
19147 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair.
19160 | D:11 | Acquired Cheibriados' fourth power
19191 | D:11 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
19326 | D:11 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
19564 | D:11 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
20005 | D:11 | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat
20010 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
20376 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
21551 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 57/63 MP: 23/23
21687 | Lair:2 | Noticed Erica
21794 | Lair:2 | Paralysed by you for 3 turns
23270 | Lair:1 | Killed an unseen horror
23315 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
23645 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
23773 | Lair:3 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
23782 | Lair:3 | Killed a seven-headed hydra
24342 | Lair:3 | Noticed Rupert
24456 | Lair:4 | Found a labyrinth entrance.
24686 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth
25092 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur
25104 | Lab | Killed a minotaur
25762 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
25871 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
26827 | Lair:4 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
27449 | Lair:5 | Noticed a four-headed hydra
27480 | Lair:5 | Killed a four-headed hydra
27480 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 53/67 MP: 23/27
27649 | Lair:5 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 3 turns
27697 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 12 in Invocations
28674 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Hexes
28689 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
28926 | Lair:5 | Got a polished trident
28927 | Lair:5 | Identified the trident of Depta {pierce, Int+1} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
30141 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
31102 | Lair:6 | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
31348 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
31431 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
34532 | D:12 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
34574 | D:12 | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy
34605 | D:12 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 77/77 MP: 29/29
34633 | D:12 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
35512 | D:12 | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
35972 | D:12 | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight
36854 | D:11 | Killed an unseen horror
36854 | D:11 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
38541 | D:12 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
39904 | D:12 | Got a fine quarterstaff
40112 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon
40147 | D:14 | Found a flagged portal.
40170 | Bailey | Entered a bailey
40524 | Bailey | Got a twisted ring mail
41129 | D:14 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
41473 | Lair:1 | Identified the hand axe of the Shore {chop, Str+2} (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
42970 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
43315 | D:15 | Reached skill level 14 in Dodging
44535 | D:15 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 42/83 MP: 29/29
45000 | D:15 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
45005 | D:15 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
46190 | D:15 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
47037 | Lair:2 | Killed Erica
48838 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
50222 | Lair:7 | Found a dark tunnel.
50236 | Volcano | Entered a volcano
50513 | Volcano | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
52234 | Lair:7 | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably. [potion of mutation]
52234 | Lair:7 | Gained mutation: Your flesh is cold resistant. [potion of mutation]
52234 | Lair:7 | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of mutation]
52408 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
53149 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
55560 | D:8 | Killed Gastronok
55560 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
56213 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
56463 | Orc:1 | Found Skuong's Gadget Boutique.
56745 | Orc:2 | Noticed Grum
56762 | Orc:2 | Killed Grum
56786 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 106/106 MP: 30/30
57084 | Orc:2 | Noticed Josephine
57134 | Orc:2 | Killed Josephine
57711 | Orc:3 | Noticed Maurice
57764 | Orc:3 | Killed Maurice
57806 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
59034 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
59034 | Orc:4 | Found Qiskal's Gadget Shop.
59833 | Orc:4 | Noticed Saint Roka
59859 | Orc:4 | Killed Saint Roka
60052 | Orc:4 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
60237 | Orc:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
60301 | Orc:4 | Found Neuraur's Antique Armour Shop.
60319 | Orc:4 | Found Qoehotra's Antique Weapon Shop.
60419 | Orc:4 | Found Gadodiq's General Store.
60441 | Orc:4 | Found Psaatacs' Book Shop.
60449 | Orc:4 | Bought a book of Transfigurations for 825 gold pieces
60457 | Orc:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Statue Form
60644 | Orc:4 | Bought an uncursed ring of positive energy for 260 gold pieces
61194 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of torment for 82 gold pieces
61194 | D:5 | Bought 2 scrolls of remove curse for 66 gold pieces
61194 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 33 gold pieces
61202 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
61468 | D:6 | Killed an unseen horror
62924 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
63362 | Shoals:1 | Gained mutation: One of your tentacles bears a spike. [potion of beneficial mutation]
64344 | Shoals:2 | Noticed Nikola
64998 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
65222 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
66868 | Spider:2 | Noticed Frances
66894 | Spider:2 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 93/111 MP: 28/31
67111 | Spider:2 | Killed Frances
69928 | Spider:4 | Got a brightly glowing lead ring
69932 | Spider:4 | Identified the ring of Guwiaf {Ice rElec Str+2 SInv} (You found it on level 4 of the Spider Nest)
70021 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Earth Magic
70047 | Spider:4 | Got a pair of ichor-stained gloves
70061 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Transmutations
70870 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
70870 | Spider:5 | Noticed Jorgrun
72929 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
74824 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 96/117 MP: 29/32
75658 | Spider:5 | Killed Jorgrun
78456 | Shoals:3 | Found Fejana's Jewellery Boutique.
82301 | D:5 | Bought the amulet "Qiarpha" {rMut rF+ Stlth-} for 648 gold pieces
86487 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Stoneskin
86850 | D:17 | Noticed ZeroXYZ's ghost (powerful OpTm)
86893 | D:17 | Killed ZeroXYZ's ghost
86911 | D:17 | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [potion of mutation]
88076 | Shoals:1 | Killed Nikola
88301 | Shoals:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Shoals
88369 | Shoals:5 | Noticed Ilsuiw
88684 | Shoals:5 | Killed Ilsuiw
89048 | Shoals:4 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 114/126 MP: 22/28
89222 | Shoals:5 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
89261 | Shoals:5 | Got a jewelled dagger
90656 | Shoals:5 | Got a polished quarterstaff {freeze}
91192 | Shoals:5 | Got a steaming flail
91946 | Shoals:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
93033 | Lair:1 | Identified the cursed flail of the Three Runes {freeze, Str+2 Stlth++} (You took it off a merfolk javelineer on level 5 of the Shoals)
94045 | Lair:1 | Identified the cursed quarterstaff of Integrity {freeze, Int-4} (You took it off a merfolk impaler on level 5 of the Shoals)
94067 | Lair:1 | Identified the dagger "Ulezycya" {stab, +Rage Str+3 Dex+1} (You took it off a merfolk on level 5 of the Shoals)
96229 | Shoals:2 | You fall through a shaft!
105855 | D:18 | Noticed Wiglaf
105874 | D:18 | Noticed Roxanne
106162 | D:18 | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
106558 | D:18 | Paralysed by a great orb of eyes for 4 turns
106807 | D:18 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 135/135 MP: 20/29
107549 | D:18 | Noticed Norris
108210 | D:18 | Killed Wiglaf
109905 | D:18 | Killed Norris
110561 | D:18 | Killed Roxanne
110998 | D:5 | Bought a choko for 5 gold pieces
110998 | D:5 | Bought a bread ration for 52 gold pieces
110998 | D:5 | Bought a meat ration for 52 gold pieces
110998 | D:5 | Bought a pear for 10 gold pieces
110998 | D:5 | Bought a pear for 10 gold pieces
110998 | D:5 | Bought a pear for 10 gold pieces
110998 | D:5 | Bought a cheese for 19 gold pieces
110998 | D:5 | Bought a meat ration for 52 gold pieces
110998 | D:5 | Bought a meat ration for 52 gold pieces
110998 | D:5 | Bought a bread ration for 52 gold pieces
111781 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
111990 | Elf:1 | Found a magical portal.
112022 | WizLab | Entered a wizard's laboratory
112283 | WizLab | Identified The Arcane Arts in Simple Steps
112286 | WizLab | Identified Enteot's Thorough Guide to Magic
112288 | WizLab | Identified the Volume of Lucky Malediction
112290 | WizLab | Identified the Almanac of Boosting Darkness
112673 | WizLab | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
115234 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
115466 | Elf:2 | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
115476 | Bazaar | Entered a bazaar
115485 | Bazaar | Found Nuena's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
115490 | Bazaar | Found Ekigomec's Antique Weapon Emporium.
115501 | Bazaar | Found Samuk's Antique Armour Shoppe.
115504 | Bazaar | Found Psisuali's Antique Armour Emporium.
115561 | Bazaar | Bought a transparent dagger for 189 gold pieces
115563 | Bazaar | Identified the dagger "Plel" {speed, +Blink rPois rF+} (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
115566 | Bazaar | Bought a warped crossbow for 245 gold pieces
115567 | Bazaar | Identified the crossbow of Classification {venom, rF- Dex+2} (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
116940 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 4 spell: Dig
116975 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
117933 | Elf:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
118050 | Elf:3 | Noticed a Brimstone Fiend
118056 | Elf:3 | Killed a Brimstone Fiend
118064 | Elf:3 | HP: 1/183 [deep elf annihilator/crystal spear (77)]
118067 | Elf:3 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 28/147 MP: 28/30
118504 | Elf:3 | Found Thowkul's Magical Wand Shoppe.
120921 | Elf:3 | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
123708 | Elf:3 | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting
124191 | Elf:3 | Got an ichor-stained sabre
124530 | Lair:1 | Identified the cursed sabre of Gloom {pain, +Rage rElec MR++ Stlth++} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
128173 | Lair:3 | Killed Rupert
129523 | D:19 | Lost mutation: One of your tentacles bears a spike. [potion of cure mutation]
129523 | D:19 | Lost mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [potion of cure mutation]
129523 | D:19 | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of cure mutation]
129523 | D:19 | Lost mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably. [potion of cure mutation]
129544 | D:19 | Found Tweis' Armour Emporium.
130723 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
130920 | D:19 | Got a pair of faintly humming boots
130945 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
131343 | D:20 | Reached skill level 18 in Fighting
132036 | D:20 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 142/162 MP: 31/34
133661 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
133757 | Vaults:1 | Found Masogesm's Food Shop.
134640 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Fighting
137660 | Vaults:2 | Found Ofideses' Armour Shoppe.
138335 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 20 in Fighting
138814 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Margery
139606 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
140527 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 173/173 MP: 31/35
140638 | Vaults:2 | Got a fine dire flail
141470 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Unarmed Combat
141787 | Lair:1 | Identified the dire flail of Phafid {crush, SInv} (You took it off an ironheart preserver on level 2 of the Vaults)
142131 | Vaults:2 | Killed Margery
144160 | Lair:1 | Gained mutation: Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast. [potion of mutation]
144160 | Lair:1 | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating. [potion of mutation]
144160 | Lair:1 | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [potion of mutation]
146181 | Vaults:3 | Got a shimmering lead amulet
149155 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 181/181 MP: 24/36
149672 | Lair:1 | Identified the amulet of the Tempest {Clar Str+3 Int+3} (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
151722 | Vaults:4 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades.
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought an apple for 9 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought an apple for 9 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought a meat ration for 48 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought an apple for 9 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought a choko for 4 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought a meat ration for 48 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought a meat ration for 48 gold pieces
154271 | Vaults:1 | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
158672 | Lair:1 | Identified the +10,+7 quarterstaff of the Ancients {vamp, Contam rPois rF+} (You took it off an orc on level 12 of the Dungeon)
159009 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults
159312 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 25. HP: 188/188 MP: 27/36
160288 | Vaults:5 | Got a crude robe
160467 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 21 in Fighting
160996 | Vaults:5 | Noticed an ancient lich
161003 | Vaults:5 | Killed an ancient lich
161300 | Vaults:5 | Found Duawky Geof's Food Emporium.
161307 | Vaults:5 | Found Thraiff's Distillery.
161325 | Vaults:5 | Found Klarghio's Food Emporium.
161900 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 22 in Fighting
162365 | Vaults:5 | Got a slimy sling
163859 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot
164452 | D:18 | Reached XP level 26. HP: 203/203 MP: 31/37
166071 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of restore abilities for 45 gold pieces
166071 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of cure mutation for 525 gold pieces
166074 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of porridge for 15 gold pieces
166074 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of curing for 30 gold pieces
166074 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of magic for 105 gold pieces
173373 | D:21 | Found a gateway to Hell.
174195 | D:21 | Reached skill level 23 in Fighting
176922 | D:22 | You fall through a shaft!
177448 | D:23 | Reached skill level 24 in Fighting
178264 | D:23 | Got a faintly glowing hand axe
178336 | D:23 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
178966 | Lair:1 | Identified the hand axe "Bokhlosta" {freeze, Str+1} (You found it on level 23 of the Dungeon)
183260 | D:21 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
186936 | D:22 | Reached XP level 27. HP: 215/215 MP: 37/37
190232 | D:22 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
191001 | D:24 | Noticed Mara
191011 | D:24 | Noticed ZeroXYZ's illusion
191033 | D:24 | Killed Mara
191042 | D:24 | Killed ZeroXYZ's illusion
191106 | D:24 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
191160 | D:24 | Noticed Xtahua
191167 | D:24 | Noticed Jory
191171 | D:24 | Killed Xtahua
191179 | D:24 | Killed Jory
191589 | D:24 | Noticed Mennas
191629 | D:24 | Killed Mennas
191840 | D:24 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
194412 | D:25 | Entered Level 25 of the Dungeon
194879 | D:25 | Noticed Boris
194890 | D:25 | Killed Boris
195226 | D:25 | Noticed Erolcha
198214 | D:25 | Killed Erolcha
202132 | D:25 | Noticed an ancient lich
202137 | D:25 | Killed an ancient lich
205284 | D:26 | Reached skill level 25 in Fighting
206985 | Lair:1 | Gained mutation: You are resistant to electric shocks. [potion of mutation]
206985 | Lair:1 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
206986 | Lair:1 | Gained mutation: Your flesh is very cold resistant. [potion of beneficial mutation]
206987 | Lair:1 | Gained mutation: You are resistant to hostile enchantments. [potion of beneficial mutation]
206989 | Lair:1 | Gained mutation: You have a beak for a mouth. [potion of mutation]
207269 | Hell | Entered the Vestibule of Hell
207269 | Hell | Noticed Geryon
207274 | Hell | Killed Geryon
207687 | Hell | Noticed Murray
208437 | D:27 | Entered Level 27 of the Dungeon
208642 | D:27 | Reached skill level 26 in Fighting
210637 | Zot:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot
210728 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 27 in Fighting
210972 | Zot:1 | Identified Sojobo's Incunabulum of Flight
213229 | Lair:1 | Identified a +5 rod of warding (13/13) (You found it on level 1 of the Realm of Zot)
215155 | Zot:3 | Got a bronze ring mail
215377 | Zot:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Necromancy
216603 | Zot:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms
218751 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of restore abilities for 45 gold pieces
218751 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of restore abilities for 45 gold pieces
219849 | D:22 | Noticed an ancient lich
219858 | D:22 | Killed an ancient lich
222027 | D:5 | Bought an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion for 240 gold pieces
222027 | D:5 | Bought an uncursed ring of regeneration for 360 gold pieces
223691 | Slime:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
225757 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 4 spell: Airstrike
234695 | Shoals:3 | Bought an uncursed amulet of conservation for 300 gold pieces
239842 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
256781 | Slime:4 | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry. [a shining eye]
257326 | Slime:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
258343 | Slime:4 | Gained mutation: Your vision is quite blurry. [a shining eye]
258896 | Lair:1 | Gained mutation: Your vision is extremely blurry. [helix card]
258908 | Lair:1 | Lost mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating. [helix card]
258908 | Lair:1 | Gained mutation: Your system is resistant to poisons. [helix card]
259222 | D:5 | Bought a legendary deck of changes for 780 gold pieces
259514 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
259514 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
259514 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
260355 | Slime:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Pits of Slime
260487 | Slime:6 | Noticed the royal jelly
262501 | Hell | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
262686 | Hell | Killed Murray
264120 | Crypt:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt
264414 | Crypt:1 | Noticed Aizul
264423 | Crypt:1 | Killed Aizul
265280 | Crypt:2 | Found a staircase to the Tomb.
268344 | Vaults:2 | Identified a +1 rod of inaccuracy (12/12) (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)
269269 | Crypt:4 | Noticed Khufu
269281 | Crypt:4 | Killed Khufu
269381 | Crypt:4 | Noticed Donald
269395 | Crypt:4 | Killed Donald
269582 | Crypt:4 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
269666 | Crypt:4 | Got a warped robe
270019 | Crypt:4 | Noticed Sojobo
270105 | Crypt:4 | Got a transparent steel amulet
270357 | Vaults:2 | Identified the amulet "Lamosk" {Ward MR++} (You took it off a vampire mage on level 4 of the Crypt)
273143 | Crypt:4 | Killed Sojobo
273949 | Crypt:4 | Noticed an ancient lich
274114 | Crypt:4 | Killed an ancient lich
276765 | Crypt:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Crypt
277175 | Crypt:5 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
277938 | Crypt:5 | Got a flickering lead ring
278030 | Crypt:5 | Got a transparent scimitar
278602 | Lair:1 | Identified the scimitar "Tweof" {drain, rN+} (You took it off a ghoul on level 5 of the Crypt)
278649 | Lair:1 | Identified the ring "Pyotako" {+/*Tele Dex+1 Int-4} (You found it on level 5 of the Crypt)
280587 | Crypt:5 | Noticed an ancient lich
280590 | Crypt:5 | Killed an ancient lich
280697 | Crypt:5 | Got a brightly glowing flail
281694 | Lair:1 | Identified the flail "Ewurut" {drain, Str+1 SInv} (You found it on level 5 of the Crypt)
282917 | Crypt:2 | Reached skill level 27 in Unarmed Combat
286483 | Tomb:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Tomb of the Ancients
286660 | Tomb:1 | Noticed Agnes
286674 | Tomb:1 | Killed Agnes
294226 | Tomb:1 | Reached skill level 27 in Dodging
294816 | Tomb:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Invocations
298313 | Tomb:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients
298317 | Tomb:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
298658 | Tomb:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Earth Magic
303639 | Tomb:3 | Got a golden rune of Zot
305545 | Tomb:3 | Got a dazzling trident
305661 | Tomb:3 | Identified the Catalogue of Sinister Beguiling
305668 | Tomb:3 | Got a glittering ivory ring
305686 | Tomb:3 | Identified the Grimoire of Bewitchment
305697 | Tomb:3 | Got a slimy mace
305700 | Tomb:3 | Got a smoking chain mail
305703 | Tomb:3 | Got a fine leather armour
305708 | Tomb:3 | Got a crude crossbow
306427 | Lair:1 | Identified the trident of Shrulaesu {pierce, rF+ rC++} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
306435 | Lair:1 | Identified the mace "Lievef" {elec, rPois Str+2} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
306438 | Lair:1 | Identified the crossbow of Insufficient Pleasure {venom, rPois rC+} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
306773 | Lair:1 | Identified the cursed ring of the Forgotten Realms {+Rage +Fly Str-5 Stlth-} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
315405 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
320455 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings
329860 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Evocations
348557 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Necromancy
350836 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
352189 | D:27 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
357844 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations
363146 | Zot:1 | Noticed an orb of fire
363165 | Zot:1 | Killed an orb of fire
363165 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
363222 | Zot:1 | Noticed an orb of fire
363230 | Zot:1 | Killed an orb of fire
367530 | Zot:1 | Noticed an orb of fire
367540 | Zot:1 | Killed an orb of fire
370828 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
372196 | Slime:6 | Killed the royal jelly
373062 | Slime:6 | Identified the Grimoire of Aid and Unholy Arts
373065 | Slime:6 | Got a slimy rune of Zot
374239 | Slime:6 | Got a pitted pewter ring
374247 | Slime:6 | Got a crude flail
374293 | Slime:6 | Got a crude scale mail
374306 | Slime:6 | Got a smoking ivory ring
376880 | Lair:1 | Identified the flail of the Ecumenical Temple {pain, rElec Int+4} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
376927 | Lair:1 | Identified the ring "Ketifecu" {+/*Tele +Rage rF+ Acc+5} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
376932 | Lair:1 | Identified the ring of the Ant {Hunger rN+ Dex-1 Acc+6} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
377839 | Blade | Entered the Hall of Blades
379502 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Mass Abjuration
380143 | Dis:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Iron City of Dis
380261 | Dis:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth
380482 | Dis:1 | Gained mutation: You are dopey. (Int -2) [mutagenic glow]
386636 | Dis:2 | Paralysed by the effects of Hell for 5 turns
392028 | Dis:3 | Paralysed by the effects of Hell for 2 turns
392382 | Dis:3 | Reached skill level 27 in Stealth
392813 | Dis:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Transmutations
393885 | Dis:4 | Paralysed by the effects of Hell for 2 turns
405714 | Dis:5 | Gained mutation: Your body is misshapen. [mutagenic glow]
405767 | Dis:5 | Paralysed by the effects of Hell for 7 turns
405863 | Dis:5 | Paralysed by the effects of Hell for 4 turns
408115 | Dis:2 | Paralysed by the effects of Hell for 4 turns
408303 | Dis:6 | Lost mutation: Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast. [mutagenic glow]
408837 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Call Canine Familiar
408867 | Lair:1 | Fell from the grace of Cheibriados
426748 | D:8 | Was forgiven by Cheibriados
427701 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 39 gold pieces
427735 | Orc:4 | Bought a transparent great sword for 440 gold pieces
427742 | Orc:4 | Identified the great sword of Responsibility {freeze, rElec rN+} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
432314 | Crypt:5 | Became a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha
435052 | Zot:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot
435260 | Zot:5 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's first power
435260 | Zot:5 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha
435261 | Zot:5 | Identified Kikubaaqudgha's Almanac of Dark Secrets (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you on level 5 of the Realm of Zot)
435317 | Zot:5 | HP: 3/291 [mottled draconian monk (16)]
435320 | Zot:5 | Slain by a purple draconian monk
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed | 112 | 205 | 554 | 1039 | 2257 | 2467 | 2059 | 1382 | 8581 || 18656
Flail | | | | | | | 29 | | || 29
Katana | | | | | | | 6 | | || 6
Staff | | | | | | | 4 | 16 | 141 || 161
Sabre | | | | | | | | 2 | || 2
Throw: Dart | | | 10 | 1 | | | | | || 11
Javelin | | | | | | 63 | 1 | | || 64
Throwing net | | | | | | | 1 | | || 1
Dagger | | | | | | | 1 | 1 | 2 || 4
Hand axe | | | | | | | | 1 | || 1
Cast: Beastly Appendage | 2 | 9 | 2 | 1 | 11 | 8 | | | || 33
Spider Form | | 6 | 41 | 85 | 161 | 85 | 12 | 1 | || 391
Ice Form | | | 1 | 14 | 28 | 88 | 10 | 5 | 13 || 159
Corona | | | | 1 | 2 | 27 | 39 | 6 | 56 || 131
Confusing Touch | | | | 1 | | | | | 4 || 5
Regeneration | | | | | 87 | 180 | 183 | 139 | 607 || 1196
Repel Missiles | | | | | 21 | 65 | 153 | 111 | 376 || 726
Flight | | | | | 7 | 3 | 2 | | 7 || 19
Summon Butterflie | | | | | | 61 | | 6 | 56 || 123
Statue Form | | | | | | 6 | 61 | 101 | 641 || 809
Stoneskin | | | | | | 3 | 35 | 83 | 348 || 469
Dig | | | | | | | 7 | | 512 || 519
Apportation | | | | | | | 3 | 3 | 16 || 22
Airstrike | | | | | | | | | 5 || 5
Invok: Bend Time | | | 1 | 3 | 3 | | 2 | | 1 || 10
Slouch | | | | 2 | 3 | 8 | | 5 | || 18
Step From Time | | | | 2 | | 6 | 1 | 1 | 17 || 27
Temporal Distorti | | | | | 1 | | | 2 | 13 || 16
Renounce Religion | | | | | | | | | 1 || 1
Abil: End Transformatio | | 1 | 17 | 66 | 127 | 104 | 39 | 44 | 49 || 447
Evoke Invisibilit | | | | | | | | 1 | 2 || 3
Evoke Blink | | | | | | | | | 4 || 4
Evoke Teleportati | | | | | | | | | 1 || 1
Evoke: Wand | | 5 | | 48 | 55 | 84 | 19 | 1 | 96 || 308
Miscellaneous | | | | | | | 2 | 2 | 23 || 27
Rod | | | | | | | | | 49 || 49
Deck | | | | | | | | | 12 || 12
Use: Potion | 2 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 2 | 25 || 82
Scroll | | | 12 | 21 | 10 | 5 | 14 | 7 | 84 || 153
Stab: Sleeping | 2 | 4 | 3 | 20 | 62 | 66 | 48 | 38 | 183 || 426
Distracted | | | | | 11 | 7 | 8 | 1 | 60 || 87
Paralysed | | | | | | 2 | 2 | | 2 || 6
Petrified | | | | | | | 2 | | || 2
Fleeing | | | | | | | | | 6 || 6
Confused | | | | | | | | | 5 || 5
Betrayed ally | | | | | | | | | 5 || 5
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Patashu wrote:As a result, if you can't notice just by playing if X or Y is better, it's not a big enough difference to matter.
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tasonir wrote:Because no one ever answered the first question, here you go.
All skills, even magic, set to 27, level 27, statue and blade hands both vs a stone giant. Done in version 13.1, seems like the mac build didn't update to 13.2? Anyways, don't think the formulas for this have changed. I had no equipment, ie, rings.
tasonir wrote:I usually do a couple points of dex and the rest in int, although it's relatively unimportant after the +15 to all stats means you'll have plenty of everything. Dex has some fairly harsh stepdowns, strength is just adding slightly more damage when you're already dealing 100+ damage a hit, and int is useful but you are probably only casting up to level 6-7 spells and already have 30 int...A few more points will help, but it isn't really going to -change- anything. Int probably still wins, though.
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Bloax wrote:Str/dex is very important for bladehands, and str is important for statue form.
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