VpVM wants two more runes but which ones?

Sunday, 9th February 2014, 00:18 by Sprucery

VpVM of Ash. I've got 3 runes, but I want exactly two more. (Since I returned to Crawl I decided to go from 3 to 15 runes game by game. Now it's time for 5 runes.)

Which ones should I try to get? I've done everything but Zot:5, Slime, Hells, Pan and Abyss. The problem is that the only part of extended I've done since many years and Crawl versions is the Tomb. So I'm not sure where to go:

Slime: I have an amulet of resist corrosion somewhere, so I could swap with rMut as needed. Swapping would hurt my Ash-boosted spell skills, though. Could I just stab my way through Slime? I could probably forget Lightning Bolt and learn Dig to avoid the acidic walls.

Tomb: Being a vampire would help with the mummy death curses somewhat. But Tomb is obviously always dangerous. I would definitely swap a ring of fire resistance to protection from magic to be extraordinarily resistant.

Pan/Hells/Abyss: what would be my chances there?

I haven't found better boots or gloves in the whole game. I think I have a pretty good spell set to help when stabbing doesn't work. Currently training Earth just to get Iron Shot's power up.

Any help appreciated!

Edit: as a personal conduct, I never switch gods. So please don't suggest that.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.1 (tiles) character file. Vampira the Imperceptible (Vampire Venom Mage) Turns: 166529, Time: 1, 11:10:45 HP 203/203 AC 32 Str 8 XL: 27 MP 48/48 EV 24 Int 21 God: Ashenzari [******] Gold 5481 SH 16 Dex 18 Spells: 16 memorised, 1 level left Res.Fire : + + + See Invis. : + z - +8 elf sabre (freeze) (curse) Res.Cold : + + . Warding : . A - +5 elf ring mail {rF+} (curse) Life Prot.: + + + Conserve : . K - +3 buckler {AC+3} (curse) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . H - +2 wizard hat {MR+} (curse) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : + C - +2 cloak {darkness} (curse) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . G - +2 pair of gauntlets (curse) Res.Mut. : + Stasis : . B - +2 pair of boots (curse) Res.Rott. : + Flight : . p - cursed amulet of resist mutation Saprovore : . . . y - cursed ring of protection from fire i - cursed ring of protection from fire @: non-regenerating, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing, AC +2 a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility }: 3/15 runes: barnacled, silver, gossamer You are on level 1 of the Vaults. You worship Ashenzari. Ashenzari is exalted by your worship. You are bloodless. You have visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and seen 69 of its levels. You have visited 2 bazaars. You have collected 8994 gold pieces. You have spent 3533 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +6,+6 elven dagger of flaming (quivered) z - a cursed +8,+8 elven sabre of freezing (weapon) Armour A - a cursed +5 elven ring mail of fire resistance (worn) B - a cursed +2 pair of boots (worn) C - a cursed +2 cloak of darkness (worn) G - a cursed +2 pair of gauntlets (worn) H - a cursed +2 wizard hat of magic resistance (worn) K - a cursed +3 buckler of protection (worn) S - a +1 elven cloak of preservation Magical devices c - a wand of digging (10) m - a wand of paralysis (8) o - a wand of heal wounds (3) q - a wand of teleportation (3) t - a wand of cold (5) w - a wand of teleportation (3) E - a wand of draining (3) R - a wand of fire (2) Scrolls f - a scroll of teleportation h - 3 scrolls of blinking k - 2 scrolls of silence r - 2 scrolls of fog v - a scroll of remove curse I - 2 scrolls of identify M - a scroll of recharging W - 3 scrolls of fear Jewellery i - a cursed ring of protection from fire (left hand) p - a cursed amulet of resist mutation (around neck) y - a cursed ring of protection from fire (right hand) L - an uncursed ring of protection from magic P - an uncursed amulet of conservation Potions d - 2 potions of agility e - a potion of magic g - a potion of flight j - 2 potions of blood l - a potion of speed n - 5 potions of curing s - 3 potions of heal wounds D - a potion of restore abilities F - a potion of resistance O - 2 potions of coagulated blood U - a potion of invisibility X - 2 potions of brilliance Miscellaneous b - a lamp of fire u - a phial of floods x - a fan of gales J - a lamp of fire N - a fan of gales Q - a fan of gales T - a lamp of fire Z - a fan of gales Skills: - Level 14.0 Fighting - Level 17.0(20.8) Short Blades - Level 12.5(16.6) Armour + Level 17.7(21.4) Dodging - Level 26.0 Stealth - Level 5.1(8.1) Shields - Level 22.6 Spellcasting - Level 12.3(16.4) Conjurations - Level 7.8(12.3) Charms - Level 1.0(3.5) Summonings - Level 11.5(15.7) Translocations - Level 1.2(3.9) Transmutations - Level 6.0(10.5) Ice Magic - Level 7.0(11.5) Air Magic + Level 6.7(11.2) Earth Magic - Level 9.0(13.3) Poison Magic - Level 8.0(12.4) Evocations You have one spell level left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Iron Shot Conj/Erth ######.... 1% 6 ###.... b - Freezing Cloud Conj/Ice/Air ######.... 1% 6 ###.... c - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ######.. 1% 3 None d - Controlled Blink Tloc N/A 2% 7 #####.. e - Venom Bolt Conj/Pois ######.... 1% 5 None f - Apportation Tloc ######.... 0% 1 None g - Airstrike Air ######.... 1% 4 None h - Phase Shift Tloc ######.... 1% 5 None i - Lightning Bolt Conj/Air ######.... 1% 5 None j - Haste Chrm ######.. 1% 6 ###.... k - Deflect Missiles Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 6 ###.... l - Summon Butterflies Summ #####... 1% 1 None m - Swiftness Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 2 None n - Orb of Destruction Conj #######... 1% 7 #####.. o - Passwall Trmt/Erth ######.... 1% 3 None p - Flight Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 3 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (27/27) Temple (1/1) D:4 Orc (4/4) D:10 Elf (3/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:12 Shoals (5/5) Lair:6 Spider (5/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Vaults (5/5) D:16 Blade (1/1) Vaults:4 Crypt (5/5) Vaults:2 Tomb (0/3) Crypt:2 Zot (5/5) D:27 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:4 [ D:6 ( D:10 }+ D:11 % D:14 * D:16 [ D:23 * Orc:4 (*[* Elf:1 * Vaults:1 } Vaults:2 ! Vaults:3 / Portals: Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27 Abyss: D:22 D:25 D:26 D:27 Pandemonium: D:24 D:27 Annotations: Shoals:4 exclusion: oklob plant Vaults:3 exclusion: door, Jory Vaults:4 exclusion: door, Mennas Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You do not heal naturally. You can bottle blood from corpses. You have razor-sharp teeth.* You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You can survive without breathing.* You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +2).* Message History Save game and exit? .....# #.##.## .....# #...... .....# ###########' #############..#........ #.....#..#........ #..(.('..'........ #.....#..#........ #[...[#..#........ #..#'#####........ #..#..@>########'# #..#..?<# #... ######### #... #... ####### #... ...(..# #... ......# #... ......# #### ......# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures An orb of fire (Zot:1) An ancient lich (Crypt:5) Khufu (Crypt:1) 2 greater mummies Saint Roka (D:24) Boris (thrice) (Crypt:3 Crypt:4 Vaults:5) Sojobo (D:22) Margery (D:22) 5 golden dragons 2 curse toes An electric golem (Zot:1) 9 bone dragons Frederick (D:24) Xtahua (D:20) 7 liches A quicksilver dragon (D:27) 17 tentacled monstrosities 2 deep elf blademasters (Elf:3) A titan (Vaults:5) 18 storm dragons 2 deep elf master archers (Elf:3) An Executioner (Crypt:3) 14 tengu reavers 7 ancient champions Rupert (Lair:3) Agnes (D:15) A sphinx (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) A sphinx (D:25) Frances (Spider:2) Kirke (D:15) 9 shadow dragons 6 draconian monks 5 revenants Ilsuiw (Shoals:5) 2 frost giants 5 ghouls Donald (Orc:3) 5 deep elf sorcerers Wiglaf (D:24) 6 draconian scorchers Maud (Lair:3) 15 fire giants 18 vault wardens 3 draconian knights Aizul (Spider:2) Louise (Shoals:3) 3 azure jellies (D:21) 2 orc warlords 2 curse skulls 6 ghost moths A draconian zealot (Zot:1) 3 emperor scorpions (Spider:5) The ghost of Witchcraft the Thaumaturge, a powerful DgAM (Shoals:1) Gastronok (Lair:3) 3 draconian annihilators 6 draconian shifters 6 reapers 2 draconian callers (Zot:1) A vampire knight (Crypt:4) 42 stone giants 10 grey draconians 4 eidola 9 deep elf demonologists 9 green draconians 2 unborn 5 deep elf annihilators 9 mottled draconians 14 red draconians A merfolk javelineer (Shoals:2) 6 purple draconians 5 white draconians 9 pale draconians 6 yellow draconians 6 black draconians 13 deep elf death magi 42 vault guards 7 merfolk impalers A mummy priest (Crypt:5) 5 death oozes 55 yaktaur captains 19 ettins 10 ironheart preservers 5 death cobs 6 great orbs of eyes 3 deep elf high priests 9 jiangshi A dragon (shapeshifter) (D:26) 9 dragons 4 merfolk aquamancers (Shoals:5) 24 dancing weapons 16 ice dragons 4 sirens 2 ravenous feature mimics 10 hydras A ravenous item mimic (Zot:4) 3 deep dwarf death knights 16 ogre magi 6 vampire magi 14 deep troll shamans 11 death yaks (Lair:8) 8 deep troll earth magi 4 plague shamblers 8 soul eaters A storm dragon zombie (Crypt:5) 24 centaur warriors 7 very ugly things 3 fire crabs 4 orc high priests A spectral dire elephant (Crypt:4) 2 sun demons 4 spectral elves 3 hell knights (D:22) 3 catoblepae 9 iron trolls A deep troll (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 10 deep elf knights 2 anaconda zombies (Crypt:5) 13 sea snakes 38 deep trolls 3 shadow wraiths 41 skeletal warriors A storm dragon skeleton (Vaults:2) A giant orange brain (shapeshifter) (D:26) A swamp dragon (shapeshifter) (D:27) 4 unseen horrors 17 flayed ghosts 5 giant amoebae An ice statue (Orc:4) A hill giant (shapeshifter) (D:25) A giant amoeba (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 5 wizards (D:20) A sphinx zombie (Crypt:1) A wolf spider zombie (D:20) A golden dragon skeleton (Vaults:4) 7 harpies 16 deep elf conjurers 14 ironbrand convokers 10 griffons 4 flaming corpses 3 deathcaps (Zot:1) 9 red wasps 44 orc knights 7 stone giant zombies 18 phantasmal warriors 52 wolf spiders 16 necromancers 18 hill giants A red wasp (shapeshifter) (D:16) 8 orc sorcerers A hellion (Elf:3) 2 frost giant zombies A sixfirhy (Elf:3) 4 fire giant zombies 4 shadow dragon skeletons 16 moths of wrath 4 oklob plants (D:21) 2 shining eyes (shapeshifter) 13 cyclopes 4 sphinx skeletons 3 dire elephant zombies 5 black mambas A moth of wrath (shapeshifter) (Elf:2) 14 deep elf summoners Maurice (D:9) A black mamba (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3) 5 frost giant skeletons 20 stone giant skeletons An alligator snapping turtle zombie (Crypt:4) 16 vault sentinels 6 spiny worms A queen ant (Lair:8) An eye of devastation (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 15 spiny frogs 8 elephants A spiny frog (shapeshifter) (D:20) A dire elephant skeleton (Crypt:2) 94 yaktaurs A moth of suppression (Spider:5) A fire drake (shapeshifter) (D:25) A redback zombie (Crypt:5) A draconian (shapeshifter) (D:19) 3 fire drakes A naga mage (D:20) 13 mermaids 15 trolls 2 mottled draconian zombies 17 demonic crawlers 2 iron troll zombies 2 orange demons A satyr skeleton (Crypt:1) 4 guardian mummies 29 orb spiders A siren zombie (Crypt:3) 3 silent spectres 2 wandering mushrooms (Zot:1) A grey draconian skeleton (Crypt:3) A spriggan (D:14) 2 spriggans (shapeshifter) A yaktaur (shapeshifter) (Elf:2) 14 deep elf priests 45 jumping spiders A wind drake (Zot:1) 7 komodo dragons Sonja (Orc:2) An iron troll skeleton (Vaults:2) A harpy zombie (Crypt:5) 21 two-headed ogres A red wasp zombie (Crypt:4) A moth of wrath zombie (Crypt:2) Prince Ribbit (D:4) 2 jumping spiders (shapeshifter) A hydra skeleton (D:14) A siren skeleton (Crypt:1) A trapdoor spider zombie (Crypt:2) A catoblepas skeleton (Crypt:2) An ettin zombie (D:22) 11 boulder beetles 2 harpy skeletons 49 slime creatures A stone giant simulacrum (Crypt:2) A slime creature (shapeshifter) (D:26) 5 basilisks A fire giant simulacrum (Crypt:1) 26 blink frogs 17 wraiths 6 brown oozes (D:21) 2 griffon zombies 77 redbacks 33 tarantellas A brown ooze (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) A grizzly bear (Lair:8) 10 snapping turtles 2 basilisks (shapeshifter) 2 wind drake zombies 4 wyverns 12 water elementals An octopode (shapeshifter) (D:15) 69 yaks 20 trapdoor spiders 2 ettin skeletons 81 ugly things 20 flying skulls A hog (D:15) 2 tarantellas (shapeshifter) A spectral fire crab (Crypt:5) 15 shadows 7 vampires 2 chaos spawn (Elf:3) 2 giant firefly zombies (Crypt:5) 2 hill giant zombies An air elemental (D:19) 3 elephant slugs 28 deep elf magi 9 sharks A water nymph zombie (Crypt:3) 2 wind drake skeletons A hog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3) A merfolk (shapeshifter) (D:27) 2 hippogriffs (shapeshifter) 2 neqoxecs (Elf:3) Grum (D:8) 3 spiny worm zombies 18 vampire mosquitoes 39 merfolk A hill giant skeleton (D:15) 13 hippogriffs 26 deep elf fighters 23 wolves 5 mottled dragons 2 agate snail zombies (Lair:3) 2 necrophages 7 hungry ghosts 5 rock worms A manticore (shapeshifter) (D:26) 2 kobold demonologists (Vaults:1) 11 raven skeletons (Crypt:5) 4 deep troll zombies 16 manticores 3 deep troll skeletons 12 soldier ants A porcupine (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) A red wasp simulacrum (Crypt:1) A swamp drake (Lair:2) A faun skeleton (Crypt:1) 2 sky beasts 14 freezing wraiths 4 black bears A black bear (shapeshifter) (D:21) 60 orc warriors A phantom (D:5) 11 porcupines 27 centaurs 7 giant goldfish 4 yellow wasps 3 ice beasts A spectral giant slug (Crypt:5) 2 boring beetles (shapeshifter) 2 fire drake zombies (Crypt:4) 7 crocodiles 50 ogres 13 rotting devils 2 fire crab zombies 16 lost souls 10 big kobolds 4 boring beetles 11 water moccasins 17 wargs A giant slug (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 3 brain worms 13 giant slugs Blork the orc (D:4) 27 giant frogs 4 yaktaur zombies A giant slug zombie (Crypt:1) 3 yaktaur skeletons A brain worm (shapeshifter) (D:25) 4 agate snails A gnoll sergeant (D:4) A cyclops skeleton (D:12) A wyvern zombie (D:7) 2 troll zombies (D:12) A manticore skeleton (Crypt:4) 17 killer bees 3 boulder beetle zombies 2 eyes of draining 2 yak zombies A polar bear zombie (Crypt:2) A troll skeleton (Crypt:1) 12 jellyfish 16 wights 12 crimson imps A fire crab simulacrum (Crypt:1) A hippogriff skeleton (D:13) 2 wolf zombies A yak skeleton (Crypt:1) A yaktaur simulacrum (Crypt:1) 15 electric eels 9 jellies A wolf skeleton (Crypt:1) 4 goliath beetles 2 iron imps (Elf:3) A quasit (Elf:3) A soldier ant zombie (Crypt:2) A two-headed ogre zombie (D:12) 14 hounds A basilisk zombie (Lair:3) A giant frog skeleton (D:7) 49 orc priests A porcupine zombie (Crypt:2) A scorpion (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) 42 spiders A giant slug simulacrum (Crypt:1) 2 gnoll shamans (D:4) 39 orc wizards A spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1) 8 big fish 7 scorpions 12 iguanas A killer bee zombie (D:11) 28 worker ants An orange rat (Vaults:5) 22 sheep An ogre zombie (D:11) A yak simulacrum (D:15) A crocodile zombie (Lair:3) A mottled dragon zombie (D:14) 10 boggarts A hound zombie (D:5) A naga zombie (Crypt:3) Terence (D:3) 15 mummies 36 gnolls (D:4) 28 adders A worker ant zombie (D:11) A swamp drake skeleton (Crypt:2) A steam dragon skeleton (D:8) A white imp (Elf:3) 8 giant centipedes 42 green rats A shadow imp (Elf:3) 8 giant mites 12 worms An inept feature mimic (D:10) An ufetubus (Elf:3) A scorpion zombie (Crypt:2) 2 giant eyeballs 8 giant geckos 11 oozes 257 orcs A ball python (D:2) 32 bats 3 giant cockroaches (D:2) 17 goblins 19 hobgoblins 48 jackals 60 kobolds 15 quokkas A giant gecko skeleton (Crypt:4) 11 giant newts A giant newt skeleton (D:4) A giant spore (D:16) A goblin skeleton (D:4) A hobgoblin skeleton (D:8) A jackal skeleton (Crypt:1) A kobold zombie (D:7) A lava orc skeleton (Crypt:1) A lava orc zombie (Crypt:4) An orc skeleton (D:4) 2 orc zombies A quokka zombie (D:6) 19 rats A rat skeleton (D:6) 3 fungi 3 plants 3665 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A greater mummy (Crypt:1) A shadow dragon (D:27) 2 vault guards A centaur warrior (Vaults:4) A swamp dragon (Vaults:3) 3 harpies (Shoals:1) A phantasmal warrior (Crypt:1) A stone giant skeleton (Vaults:4) An orb spider (Spider:4) A demonic crawler (Spider:4) A spectral glowing shapeshifter (Crypt:4) A wraith (Vaults:2) A giant slug (Vaults:4) 2 spiders A goblin (D:5) 19 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) An eldritch tentacle (Spider:3) A tengu reaver (D:22) A draconian scorcher (Zot:1) 2 green draconians (Zot:1) An ironheart preserver (Vaults:4) A deep dwarf death knight (Crypt:4) A shadow wraith (Crypt:4) 4 skeletal warriors 2 necromancers (Crypt:5) An orc sorcerer (Orc:4) 6 air elementals 2 yaktaurs (Vaults:4) A fire elemental (Crypt:4) A redback (Spider:2) A tarantella (Spider:2) A yak (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) An orc warrior (Orc:4) 2 humans (D:15) 4 chimeras A rotting devil (Crypt:5) 4 lost souls An orc wizard (D:24) A giant gecko (D:5) 2 orcs A giant spore (D:15) 2 goblins (D:5) 5 butterflies (D:22) 69 eldritch tentacle segments (Spider:3) 38 fungi 27 plants 185 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 3869 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Vampira, the Vampire Venom Mage, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 4/4 441 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/5 445 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison 526 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 902 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 1061 | D:2 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 1083 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/24 MP: 3/6 1656 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 1656 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 30/30 MP: 0/8 2390 | D:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth 2402 | D:3 | Noticed Terence 2407 | D:3 | Killed Terence 3051 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 3115 | D:4 | Found Diasofiu's Antique Armour Boutique. 3121 | D:4 | Bought an embroidered robe for 19 gold pieces 3121 | D:4 | Bought a pair of elven gloves for 39 gold pieces 3127 | D:4 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 3294 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/35 MP: 6/10 3420 | D:4 | Killed Prince Ribbit 3420 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 12/41 MP: 4/11 3613 | D:4 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 3769 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic 3922 | D:4 | Noticed Blork the orc 3964 | D:4 | Killed Blork the orc 3964 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 4210 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4223 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 4287 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled 4328 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 40/47 MP: 11/13 5378 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 5955 | D:4 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 6040 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 6250 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 29/54 MP: 15/15 6274 | D:5 | Learned a level 4 spell: Olgreb's Toxic Radiance 6808 | D:5 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 6826 | D:5 | Got the sling of Shrotz {flame, rElec rC+} 7064 | D:5 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 7422 | D:6 | Found Maelem Coce's Antique Weapon Shoppe. 7679 | D:6 | Got an uncursed twitching tin ring 7681 | D:6 | Identified the ring "Igruod" {rN+ Int+2 Dam-1} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon) 7919 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic 8065 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 8098 | D:6 | Noticed a cacodemon 8645 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic 9640 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 9640 | D:8 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 52/59 MP: 16/16 10036 | D:8 | Reached skill level 6 in Air Magic 10131 | D:8 | Acquired Ashenzari's first power 10131 | D:8 | Identified the +4,+4 sling of Shrotz {flame, rElec rC+} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 10314 | D:8 | Noticed Grum 10334 | D:8 | Killed Grum 10344 | D:8 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 11592 | D:9 | Noticed Maurice 11610 | D:9 | Killed Maurice 11610 | D:9 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 11610 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 67/67 MP: 15/18 11750 | D:9 | Noticed a hill giant 11751 | D:9 | Killed a hill giant 11779 | D:9 | Noticed a moth of wrath 11781 | D:9 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 12392 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 12397 | D:10 | Found Twubium's Jewellery Boutique. 12399 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 12408 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 12408 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 12422 | D:10 | Twubium's Jewellery Boutique was a mimic. 12428 | D:10 | Found Luuthr Soixt's Gadget Emporium. 12439 | D:10 | Found Ijaelaj's Book Shoppe. 12595 | D:9 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 12675 | D:10 | Acquired Ashenzari's second power 13065 | D:10 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 13147 | D:10 | Learned a level 5 spell: Venom Bolt 13330 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 13714 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 13722 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 13722 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 72/72 MP: 16/20 13725 | D:10 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 14114 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 14440 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 14623 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 14642 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 14642 | D:11 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 14716 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 14790 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 15260 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 15260 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 15428 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 15705 | D:11 | Found Ycea's Food Shoppe. 15948 | D:12 | Acquired Ashenzari's third power 15973 | D:12 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 16728 | D:12 | Noticed an unseen horror 16734 | D:12 | Killed an unseen horror 16810 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 17181 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 17215 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 17502 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 80/80 MP: 20/22 17509 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 17540 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 18879 | Lair:2 | Acquired Ashenzari's fourth power 19582 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 19695 | Lair:3 | Noticed Rupert 19698 | Lair:3 | Killed Rupert 19995 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 5 spell: Phase Shift 20603 | Lair:3 | Noticed Gastronok 20615 | Lair:3 | Killed Gastronok 20830 | Lair:3 | Noticed Maud 20994 | Lair:3 | Killed Maud 20994 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 21821 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 75/87 MP: 13/26 22567 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 22781 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 23079 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations 25278 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 26857 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Teleport 26983 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 27948 | Lair:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 28133 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 28536 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 28581 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 89/95 MP: 2/31 30078 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 30141 | Lair:8 | Learned a level 6 spell: Dispersal 30271 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 31341 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 32498 | Orc:2 | Noticed Sonja 33245 | Orc:2 | Killed Sonja 33380 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 34057 | Orc:3 | Noticed Donald 34063 | Orc:3 | Killed Donald 34644 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 34831 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 35014 | Orc:4 | Found a gateway to a bazaar. 35211 | Bazaar | Entered a bazaar 35225 | Bazaar | Found Goavid's Assorted Antiques. 35246 | Bazaar | Found Rah Bipude's Jewellery Shoppe. 35288 | Bazaar | Found Foyq's Gadget Shoppe. 35288 | Bazaar | Found Duamuamu's Weapon Emporium. 35353 | Bazaar | Bought a scroll of identify for 46 gold pieces 35353 | Bazaar | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 69 gold pieces 35353 | Bazaar | Bought a scroll of curse armour for 46 gold pieces 35353 | Bazaar | Bought a pair of boots for 34 gold pieces 35353 | Bazaar | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon I for 126 gold pieces 35480 | Orc:4 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 101/101 MP: 32/32 35854 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 35862 | Orc:4 | Found Qeiz's Assorted Antiques. 35865 | Orc:4 | Found Selyps' Antique Armour Emporium. 35865 | Orc:4 | Found Ruruokh's Antique Weapon Boutique. 35868 | Orc:4 | Found Maiginuir's General Store. 35937 | Orc:4 | Bought a fabulously ornate robe for 148 gold pieces 35937 | Orc:4 | Identified the cursed +0 robe of Exclusion {Str+3 Dex+2} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) 35937 | Orc:4 | Bought an obsidian-encrusted leather armour for 182 gold pieces 35937 | Orc:4 | Identified the +6 leather armour "Dusov" {Dex+4 Int+1} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) 35943 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces 35943 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 77 gold pieces 35953 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 99 gold pieces 35953 | Orc:4 | Bought a heavily runed scale mail for 438 gold pieces 35953 | Orc:4 | Identified the +2 scale mail of Serendipity {Str+3 Stlth--} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) 35953 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 99 gold pieces 38875 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest 40153 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 41855 | Spider:2 | Noticed Frances 42743 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals 43001 | Shoals:1 | Noticed Witchcraft's ghost (powerful DgAM) 43067 | Shoals:1 | Killed Witchcraft's ghost 43219 | D:13 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 43396 | Lair:4 | Learned a level 7 spell: Controlled Blink 44718 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 44914 | D:14 | Found Mouciw's Assorted Antiques. 45853 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 45853 | D:15 | Identified the +0,+11 hand axe "Qyebbaif" {elec, +Inv} 46049 | D:15 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 46207 | D:15 | Noticed Kirke 46230 | D:15 | Killed Kirke 46366 | D:15 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 47262 | D:15 | Noticed Agnes 47285 | D:15 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 92/110 MP: 30/34 47314 | D:15 | Killed Agnes 48071 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 48183 | D:16 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 48812 | D:16 | Found Truazem's Armour Shoppe. 50456 | D:17 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 51831 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Translocations 54138 | Shoals:3 | Noticed Louise 54146 | Shoals:3 | Killed Louise 54962 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Mara 55009 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Mara 55215 | Shoals:4 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth 55450 | Shoals:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Shoals 55895 | Shoals:5 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot 56201 | Shoals:5 | Noticed Ilsuiw 56213 | Shoals:5 | Killed Ilsuiw 56213 | Shoals:5 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 119/119 MP: 35/35 56674 | Shoals:5 | Identified the +7,+3 glaive of Sepoil {slay drac, rElec} 57325 | Shoals:5 | Identified Weutuoxt's Almanac of Good Luck (You found it on level 5 of the Shoals) 57509 | Lair:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Airstrike 57762 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth 57894 | Spider:2 | Noticed Aizul 58363 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 59365 | Vaults:1 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +2). [potion of beneficial mutation] 59917 | Vaults:1 | Found Cicaac's Gadget Shoppe. 61756 | Vaults:2 | Found Mnashual's Distillery. 62105 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt. 62295 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 127/127 MP: 37/37 63104 | Vaults:3 | Learned a level 6 spell: Deflect Missiles 64000 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Jory 64192 | Vaults:3 | Found Ghaisk's Magical Wand Boutique. 64227 | Vaults:3 | Bought a wand of heal wounds (2) for 504 gold pieces 64228 | Vaults:3 | Bought a wand of teleportation (3) for 294 gold pieces 64228 | Vaults:3 | Bought a wand of fireball (6) for 280 gold pieces 64638 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 65831 | Vaults:4 | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar. 65834 | Bazaar | Entered a bazaar 65834 | Bazaar | Found Xureur's Assorted Antiques. 65834 | Bazaar | Found Mnempoer's Jewellery Shoppe. 65834 | Bazaar | Found Moujammai's Book Emporium. 65834 | Bazaar | Found Cheguxzo's Magical Wand Shoppe. 65864 | Bazaar | Bought an uncursed amulet of conservation for 225 gold pieces 65867 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of speed for 159 gold pieces 65867 | Bazaar | Bought a scroll of recharging for 159 gold pieces 65867 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 87 gold pieces 67582 | Vaults:4 | Noticed Mennas 68411 | D:16 | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth 68624 | D:17 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 68908 | D:17 | Identified the cursed +9,+5 scythe of Lyvor {freeze, rElec rN+ MR++} 69473 | D:18 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 133/133 MP: 38/38 71830 | D:19 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 72022 | D:19 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 72384 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon 72510 | D:20 | Noticed Xtahua 72934 | D:20 | Killed Xtahua 73956 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 75883 | D:20 | Identified the Handbook of Bewitchment (You found it on level 20 of the Dungeon) 76662 | D:20 | Identified the Volume of the Voyage and Cold (You found it on level 20 of the Dungeon) 76679 | D:20 | Identified the Incunabulum of Mutagenic Dark Rituals (You found it on level 20 of the Dungeon) 76693 | D:20 | Identified Nikola's Grimoire of the Hurtful Birds (You found it on level 20 of the Dungeon) 76748 | D:20 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 76856 | D:18 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 77055 | Lair:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Lightning Bolt 77088 | Spider:2 | Killed Aizul 77306 | Spider:2 | Killed Frances 77767 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 81543 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest 82480 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 83649 | Spider:5 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 136/143 MP: 25/40 83963 | Spider:5 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness 84662 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot 88664 | D:21 | Found a gateway to Hell. 88689 | D:21 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings 89961 | D:21 | Learned a level 6 spell: Freezing Cloud 90314 | D:22 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss. 90338 | D:22 | Noticed Margery 90552 | D:22 | Killed Margery 91450 | D:22 | Noticed Sojobo 94577 | D:22 | Killed Sojobo 94577 | D:22 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 95033 | D:22 | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic 96436 | D:23 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 149/149 MP: 39/41 96783 | D:23 | Found Blionn's General Store. 98874 | D:24 | Noticed Saint Roka 99771 | D:24 | Killed Saint Roka 99953 | D:24 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 99978 | D:24 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium. 100293 | D:24 | Noticed Wiglaf 100574 | D:24 | Killed Wiglaf 101637 | D:24 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 101978 | D:24 | Noticed Frederick 101995 | D:24 | Killed Frederick 103516 | D:25 | Entered Level 25 of the Dungeon 105230 | D:25 | Identified the +7,+5 morningstar of Power {crush, +Inv SInv Curse} 105506 | D:24 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 159/159 MP: 28/42 106924 | D:24 | Noticed an ancient lich 107271 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls 107578 | Elf:1 | Found Befuokh's General Store. 108849 | Elf:2 | Identified the ring of Shriraem {+Fly Dex+5 Int-2} 109548 | Elf:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls 110114 | Elf:3 | Found Fraem's Book Emporium. 110114 | Elf:3 | Fraem's Book Emporium was a mimic. 113001 | Elf:3 | Identified the amulet "Creom" {Stasis +Inv MR++ Int+3 Stlth++} 113001 | Elf:3 | Identified the -2,-2 trident "Ycoejuegho" {holy, Str-1 SInv} 113015 | Elf:3 | Identified the +0 leather armour "Rugywye" {Str-3 Dex+1 Acc+1 Curse} 113018 | Elf:3 | Identified the cursed ring "Ymoeven" {rC+ Acc-4 Dam-4} 113026 | Elf:3 | Identified the +7,+7 sling of Dischord {venom, SInv} 113388 | Elf:3 | Identified the Reference Book on Talismans and Weightlessness (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 113403 | Elf:3 | Identified Wiadorgh's Lost Catalogue of the Archmage (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 113781 | Elf:3 | Identified the cursed -2,+3 hand axe of Dupon {elec, rElec SInv} 113820 | Elf:3 | Identified the ring of Uqinn {Fire +Blink SInv Stlth++} 113906 | Elf:3 | Identified a +6 rod of fiery destruction (11/11) 115817 | D:14 | Bought a potion of resistance for 210 gold pieces 115817 | D:14 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon I for 165 gold pieces 115927 | Crypt:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt 116543 | Crypt:1 | Noticed a greater mummy 116544 | Crypt:1 | Noticed a greater mummy 116545 | Crypt:1 | Noticed Khufu 116545 | Crypt:1 | Noticed a greater mummy 118033 | Vaults:4 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades. 118142 | Vaults:4 | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction 118239 | Blade | Entered the Hall of Blades 118632 | Blade | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 119293 | Vaults:4 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 119295 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging 119380 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 165/165 MP: 2/44 120021 | Crypt:1 | Killed Khufu 121361 | Crypt:1 | Killed a greater mummy 121725 | Vaults:2 | Killed a greater mummy 124107 | D:26 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 126039 | D:27 | Entered Level 27 of the Dungeon 127161 | D:27 | Reached skill level 15 in Short Blades 128230 | D:27 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 128244 | D:27 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 128743 | D:27 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 173/173 MP: 12/44 129618 | Crypt:1 | Killed a greater mummy 132222 | Crypt:2 | Found a staircase to the Tomb. 132238 | Crypt:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall 132681 | Crypt:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations 132983 | Crypt:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic 133834 | Crypt:3 | Noticed Boris 134331 | Crypt:3 | Killed Boris 134674 | Crypt:3 | Identified the Tome of the Heron (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt) 135974 | Crypt:4 | Reached skill level 24 in Stealth 137328 | Crypt:4 | Noticed Boris 137380 | Crypt:4 | Killed Boris 137814 | Crypt:4 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 138961 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults 139257 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 25. HP: 131/182 MP: 1/46 140976 | Vaults:5 | Noticed Boris 141089 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 25 in Stealth 141851 | Vaults:5 | Killed Boris 143868 | Vaults:5 | Identified the Compendium of Glacial Bewitchment (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 143901 | Vaults:5 | Identified the Tome of Confrontation (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) 144157 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot 144612 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -5 plate armour of the Hart {Str+1 Dex+3} 147329 | Orc:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Iron Shot 148821 | Crypt:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Crypt 151532 | Zot:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot 151584 | Zot:1 | Reached XP level 26. HP: 193/193 MP: 30/47 153909 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 156019 | Zot:1 | Noticed an orb of fire 156052 | Zot:1 | Killed an orb of fire 156916 | Zot:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight 157875 | Zot:2 | Reached XP level 27. HP: 199/199 MP: 48/48 160943 | Zot:4 | Reached skill level 26 in Stealth 161494 | Zot:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic 161648 | Zot:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot 164397 | Crypt:5 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 165366 | Crypt:5 | Identified the +1 robe of the Hippo {Acc+5} 165638 | Crypt:5 | Identified a +1 elven cloak of preservation 165641 | Crypt:5 | Noticed an ancient lich 165652 | Crypt:5 | Killed an ancient lich Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 50 | 115 | 521 | 961 | 1566 | 1366 | 1119 | 165 | || 5863 Short sword | | | 4 | | | | | | || 4 Sabre | | | 195 | | | | | 904 | 1062 || 2161 Throw: Dart | | | 57 | 9 | | | | | || 66 Dagger | | | 6 | | | | | | || 6 Throwing net | | | 2 | | | | | | || 2 Cast: Sting | 71 | 99 | 171 | 137 | 95 | 37 | 62 | 4 | 4 || 680 Cure Poison | | 2 | 2 | 6 | 3 | 7 | | | || 20 Mephitic Cloud | | 2 | 12 | 23 | 75 | 67 | 75 | 64 | 40 || 358 Olgreb's Toxic Ra | | | 1 | | | | | | || 1 Venom Bolt | | | | 103 | 315 | 270 | 497 | 207 | 224 || 1616 Apportation | | | | 11 | 60 | 64 | 89 | 52 | 37 || 313 Blink | | | | | 2 | 1 | | | || 3 Phase Shift | | | | | 29 | 53 | 88 | 113 | 75 || 358 Dispersal | | | | | 4 | 12 | | | || 16 Airstrike | | | | | | 70 | 255 | 238 | 128 || 691 Deflect Missiles | | | | | | 10 | 51 | 90 | 57 || 208 Control Teleport | | | | | | 2 | | | || 2 Controlled Blink | | | | | | 1 | 3 | 7 | 3 || 14 Lightning Bolt | | | | | | | 43 | 47 | 1 || 91 Freezing Cloud | | | | | | | 22 | 64 | 69 || 155 Haste | | | | | | | 8 | 10 | 18 || 36 Swiftness | | | | | | | 12 | 20 | 6 || 38 Summon Butterflie | | | | | | | 2 | | || 2 Orb of Destructio | | | | | | | | 56 | 65 || 121 Iron Shot | | | | | | | | | 143 || 143 Invok: Scrying | | | | | | 1 | | | || 1 Abil: Evoke Invisibilit | | | 6 | 16 | 56 | 72 | 87 | 128 | 58 || 423 Bottle Blood | | | 2 | 47 | 105 | 16 | 75 | 106 | 97 || 448 Evoke: Wand | | | 11 | 22 | 31 | 48 | 35 | 21 | 6 || 174 Miscellaneous | | | | | | | 3 | 16 | || 19 Use: Scroll | 3 | 8 | 19 | 21 | 16 | 18 | 24 | 32 | 24 || 165 Potion | | 4 | 2 | 46 | 92 | 37 | 54 | 41 | 26 || 302 Stab: Sleeping | | 2 | 19 | 71 | 183 | 230 | 226 | 241 | 136 || 1108 Confused | | | 11 | 23 | 64 | 41 | 37 | 47 | 21 || 244 Invisible | | | 7 | 7 | 72 | 32 | 79 | 96 | 102 || 395 Distracted | | | 2 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 || 23 Held in net/web | | | | | 2 | | | 1 | 2 || 5 Paralysed | | | | | | | 5 | 1 | || 6 Fleeing | | | | | | | | | 2 || 2

Sunday, 9th February 2014, 00:29 by sgrunt

If you're set on grabbing a couple more runes, I'd definitely do Slime (you're going to have a really hard time stabbing everything and almost everything at least senses invisible, so I'd consider swapping your cloak for the cloak of preservation). If you stay bloodless, Tomb would not be too much of a stretch, but I'd be more likely to attempt Abyss - you're stealthy enough to avoid trying to fight things properly, so if you can put up with searching for at least two > and the rune vault you should do fine.

Sunday, 9th February 2014, 00:56 by Sprucery

I'm tempted to try Slime and Abyss as suggested, because I haven't done them for a long time.

For Slime, I could get LRD or Control Teleport to get to the vaults. I guess I want rC+++ for azure jellies (I guess I have a ring somewhere)? I also have a ring of invisibility to use with the cloak of preservation. But is invisibility useless in Slime?

If I go to the Abyss, should I just try to get to level 3 and then find the rune? I assume I'd wear the rMut amulet, but would I want MR/rF/rC from rings? Is invisibility at all useful there?

Sunday, 9th February 2014, 06:25 by diviton

Invisibility is definitely useful in Abyss because you shouldn't be fighting anything unless absolutely necessary. Many things in Abyss See Invisible, but you can encounter just about anything in the Abyss, so there will be tons of monsters that don't see invisible. In other words, you can't rely on invisibility, but it's definitely a good thing to have access to. Your goal should be to explore as many tiles as possible as fast as you can, so don't fight things and use Bat Form to escape when it's safe to do so.

Sunday, 9th February 2014, 15:05 by Mattchew

Abyss would be my first choice. New Abyss can be terrifying but Ash is the god I'd want most there. Scry helps a lot, and you can cast it a lot since your piety is always climbing.

(Oh, and don't go below Abyss:3. Danger in Abyss is streaky. I had a game where I had an easy time down thru 3 and decided to go to 4 to find the rune faster. Won't do that again. Since then I've gotten into plenty of trouble on Abyss:1.)

I would probably do Slime before Tomb, but that's partly about my tolerance for grinding through 1000 mummies. Don't have an opinion on which is easier for a Vp.

Sunday, 9th February 2014, 17:17 by mopl

Sprucery wrote:I'm tempted to try Slime and Abyss as suggested, because I haven't done them for a long time.

For Slime, I could get LRD or Control Teleport to get to the vaults. I guess I want rC+++ for azure jellies (I guess I have a ring somewhere)? I also have a ring of invisibility to use with the cloak of preservation. But is invisibility useless in Slime?

If I go to the Abyss, should I just try to get to level 3 and then find the rune? I assume I'd wear the rMut amulet, but would I want MR/rF/rC from rings? Is invisibility at all useful there?

For azure jellies, don't bother with rC+++, rC++ is really enough (33% vs 20%)
As said, many monsters in Slime can sense invisible creatures, but some don't and it can be sometimes useful (ie slimes creatures, eyeballs...)
Slime:6 has -cTele until you kill TRJ (or get the rune, but it's the same !), use Passwall to get runes and loot (but you'll have to deal with TRJ first). Freezing Cloud could do the job.

You also shouldn't bother having rF+++, 2 ranks is really enough (maybe swap for OoF or Gehenna if you have a look, but otherwise rF++ is good), that will allow to use another ring.
In Abyss, follow advise given here, rush to Abyss:3, don't fight, use Batform, apport the rune and escape !

Sunday, 9th February 2014, 23:00 by Sprucery

OK, I think being un uncannily stealthy vampire of Ash is probably one of the easiest ways of doing Abyss. Stealth + Ash monster detection helped avoiding as many enemies as possible. Visions of gates were handy. Scrying revealed which vault had the rune. Passwall was very useful too, even though the walls around the vaults were naturally unpassable.

Code:: 167123 | D:22 | Voluntarily entered the Abyss. 167931 | Abyss:3 | Got an abyssal rune of Zot 168049 | D:22 | Escaped the Abyss

Next to splatting some slimes or getting splatted.

Edit: I guess I was also very very lucky in that I found the gateways down and out so fast?

Monday, 10th February 2014, 08:35 by mopl

Sprucery wrote:Edit: I guess I was also very very lucky in that I found the gateways down and out so fast?

Very lucky to find gateways down... Maybe but Ash vision helps a lot

But about the gate out, once you have the rune, they become way more common.
That helps further trips in Abyss. Getting the abyssal rune before entering Pan can be a good idea, you don't bother looking for an exit to the dungeon !

Monday, 10th February 2014, 23:42 by Sprucery

Slime was surpisingly smooth. I stabbed quite many jellies, blobs, oozes and slimes. What I couldn't stab, I iron-shotted, freezing-clouded and just hit with my sabre. TRJ got the Freezing Cloud Treatment as well. Digging wasn't needed at all. Magic-mapped the first 5 levels. As a bonus, I found an upgrade to my rMut amulet.

Again thanks for the tips to everyone, Abyss and Slime were definitely the right choices. Tomb would have been much, much more tedious let alone Pan/Hells. I've now accomplished my mission of getting 5 runes in this game, if I get the Orb to the surface that'll be a nice bonus

Code:: 168859 | Slime:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime 169494 | Slime:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Pits of Slime 170507 | Slime:6 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 170513 | Slime:6 | Noticed the royal jelly 170576 | Slime:6 | Killed the royal jelly 170672 | Slime:6 | Identified the amulet "Xaosimeu" {rMut Str+4 Dex+2 Int+4} 170697 | Slime:6 | Got a slimy rune of Zot

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