Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster


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Post Saturday, 14th October 2017, 15:47

Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

The Dart board has looked a little desolate lately, so I thought up of my own challenge series that I'll probably run once every 2 weeks. Anyone can join if they like, if they think the conduct is fun. Just post winning/losing morgues in the thread that you think fulfill the criteria for getting points, and I will allocate them.

TARGET: Troll Spellcaster (Recommended Backgrounds: Wz/IE/FE/VM/AE/Ne/Cj)
CONDITIONS:
- In the actions table of a morgue you must use melee and magic at a roughly 50-50 rate.

- Direct-damage spells and minimal use of melee(as a popcorn killer) are acceptable and encouraged.

- Using only utility spells such as blink,PoG,regen and melee for your main offense would NOT fulfill the criteria.

- Trog is obviously banned


Trolls have poor magical aptitudes and INT, so this conduct is intended for you use to your resourcefulness as player when presented with a weaker toolset than you normally have when playing Troll.

UC may be used, but only in conjunction with magic.

POINTS:
+10 points for getting a rune,
+20 points for 3-runes
+40 points for 15-runes(12 runes acceptable if lair/orc skipped)

+50 points for doing a Ziggurat to 27
[ALL POINTS ARE x3 IF LAIR AND ORC ARE SKIPPED]
[IF ATHEIST THEN POINTS ARE x1.5]

BONUS POINTS:
+10 for learning, and using, a level 9 spell
+100 points for skipping Lair and Orc(and winning.)
+50 points for being Atheist all throughout the game(and winning)

All crawl version are acceptable, as are all god abilities.
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Post Saturday, 14th October 2017, 17:44

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

Good man

Btw, getting 15 runes and skipping lair are mutually exclusive
Also, any restriction on divine abilities? Which crawl versions are allowed?
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Post Saturday, 14th October 2017, 17:49

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

Any Crawl version is accepted, any divine abilities can be used. I'll update the OP to reflect this as well.

I've had a stab at this as well with a TrFE, died to a bunch of meliali but Sticky flame + a little claw melee is very strong.
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Post Saturday, 14th October 2017, 17:53

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

Vajrapani wrote:Any Crawl version is accepted, any divine abilities can be used. I'll update the OP to reflect this as well.

I've had a stab at this as well with a TrFE, died to a bunch of meliali but Sticky flame + a little claw melee is very strong.


So how much melee is enough melee?
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Post Saturday, 14th October 2017, 17:58

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

I'd say, if you're using spells to kill enemies, but melee as a pop-corn killer(or if you have 0 mp) then that is enough melee for the conduct.

A Troll who only uses utility spells like blink,regen,PoG etc. doesn't count, but a Troll who uses bolt spells until 0 mp and then switching to melee to finish off enemies is fine for example.

Essentially it can be played as a hybrid, but direct-damage spells are preferred.
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Post Saturday, 14th October 2017, 18:10

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

Vajrapani wrote:I'd say, if you're using spells to kill enemies, but melee as a pop-corn killer(or if you have 0 mp) then that is enough melee for the conduct.

A Troll who only uses utility spells like blink,regen,PoG etc. doesn't count, but a Troll who uses bolt spells until 0 mp and then switching to melee to finish off enemies is fine for example.

Essentially it can be played as a hybrid, but direct-damage spells are preferred.


I see what you're saying, but it makes the conduct ambiguous to tell from looking at a morgue file, so you end up having to just take the player's word for it. Perhaps something like "ua (and throw?) skill must never be trained" would be clearer?
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Post Saturday, 14th October 2017, 18:13

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

Ahhh, I see. Yeah, that would be wise. I'll add it to the OP as well.

EDIT: Actually, I think a better way to do this is to check the actions table in a morgue and if melee and magic are roughly 50-50 then it can be allowed so the player doesn't have to cultivate inferior melee options.

I wouldn't want the character to be entirely gimped; just different.
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Post Sunday, 15th October 2017, 04:57

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

You didn't explicitly mention, or reject summons, I assume those are fine (even if you end up doing most of your damage with summon spells) ?
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Post Sunday, 15th October 2017, 10:54

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

Siegurt wrote:You didn't explicitly mention, or reject summons, I assume those are fine (even if you end up doing most of your damage with summon spells) ?


Yep, summons are fine.
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Post Thursday, 26th October 2017, 01:57

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

UC may be used, but only in conjunction with magic.

Do full-on transmuters that learn level 9 spells later count?
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Post Thursday, 26th October 2017, 14:03

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

The game recommends EE for trolls, but your above conduct does not mention it. Do you mean that you don't want us to run as EE?
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Post Saturday, 28th October 2017, 20:54

Re: Fortnightly Conduct Run - Troll Caster

Majang wrote:The game recommends EE for trolls, but your above conduct does not mention it. Do you mean that you don't want us to run as EE?


Oh no, I just forgot to mention it :oops:
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