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Re: Crawl "Sudden Death" Challenges - Week 7 Has Begun
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Official tournaments, but also any competition, challenge of the week or other player initiative for competitive crawling.
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Tedronai wrote:They lead to players waiting other players out to see what score they have to get to be number 1 that week. Also they seem to reward those the most who already accumulated the most tournament points. We concluded (correct me if I'm wrong!) that it would be best to ditch those ratings and only reward winning (and reaching different milestones over the course of the game) with tournament points (this goes together with what Moose proposes with "static challenges").
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Tedronai wrote:(...)
We kind of agreed that the weekly rankings are skewing the competition a bit. They lead to players waiting other players out to see what score they have to get to be number 1 that week. Also they seem to reward those the most who already accumulated the most tournament points. We concluded (correct me if I'm wrong!) that it would be best to ditch those ratings and only reward winning (and reaching different milestones over the course of the game) with tournament points (this goes together with what Moose proposes with "static challenges").
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It would be nice if Yermak and Bart could reiterate their reasoning. One of you made a really good point on why it is impossible to equitably judge the weekly high score.
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dpeg wrote:Bart et al: If part of the problem is players waiting out the competitors, what about giving some bonus to early achievers?
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WalkerBoh wrote:1. Did you attempt the bonuses? If not, why?
WalkerBoh wrote:2. When playing, do you care more for competing against players in your division or all players overall?
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WalkerBoh wrote:1. Did you attempt the bonuses? If not, why?
WalkerBoh wrote:2. When playing, do you care more for competing against players in your division or all players overall?
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WalkerBoh wrote:1. Did you attempt the bonuses? If not, why?
2. When playing, do you care more for competing against players in your division or all players overall?
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WalkerBoh wrote:1. Did you attempt the bonuses? If not, why?
WalkerBoh wrote:2. When playing, do you care more for competing against players in your division or all players overall?
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Sandman25 wrote:Side note. I am not sure giving extra points for the fastest win in division is a good idea when we don't know in advance which combos will be played next weeks. I mean I tried to speedrun MfFi (some players tried the same with NaEn as far as I know) hoping it will give me 3 points but it could be a mistake if RNG chooses DD or Sp for one of the remaining weeks. Perhaps it could be better to know all combos in advance, it would allow planning which combos are best for fastest win and for most points win like we do during release tournaments.
Bart wrote:Wk 6 was bland. Entering ziggurat is almost the same as getting 3 runes. On the other hand, sane webtilers wouldn't touch 2 tier
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I'd like the challenge more if it was z:7 for tier I and z:14 for tier II.
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MrPlanck wrote:I'm fine with the systems the way it is. If something is to change to make it more fair to all, then one option would be to just give points for 3 rune victory and bonus achievements and don't give extra points for the in-game score (unless that happens to be a bonus one week).
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some12fat2move wrote:MrPlanck wrote:I'm fine with the systems the way it is. If something is to change to make it more fair to all, then one option would be to just give points for 3 rune victory and bonus achievements and don't give extra points for the in-game score (unless that happens to be a bonus one week).
What I like about always using score as a metric is it makes you care about turncount.
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XuaXua wrote:Thought I was able to redo my DEVM; ran him through last night and did significantly better than the first try. Was under the impression I never made it to level 4 the first time around.
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Magipi wrote:XuaXua wrote:Thought I was able to redo my DEVM; ran him through last night and did significantly better than the first try. Was under the impression I never made it to level 4 the first time around.
http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/XuaXua/morg ... 042502.txt
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XuaXua wrote:Magipi wrote:XuaXua wrote:Thought I was able to redo my DEVM; ran him through last night and did significantly better than the first try. Was under the impression I never made it to level 4 the first time around.
http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/XuaXua/morg ... 042502.txt
That's my first try; second try died by cold last night on https://crawl.s-z.org/#play-dcss-git
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Tedronai wrote:Question for WalkerBoh:
It's pretty clear now that CSDC and the 0.14 tournament will clash. How do you intend to deal with this? Pause CSDC and continue after the tournament in 0.15a? Allow games from 0.14 stable?
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Magipi wrote:The challenges and the tournament will only clash is the latter starts within 4 weeks. Is it "pretty clear"? Is it even likely? Is it even possible?
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WalkerBoh wrote:Ugh no, that's just Google Docs having trouble updating properly with the custom function I'm using to score those. I'll work on it, but don't worry, the scores are all reported correctly so your wins aren't lost.
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