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The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 00:32
by Abominae
How many of you play with the mouse? I know the mouse isn't available online, but having originally played offline, I cannot break the habit of using the mouse. It's bad, it leads to annoying missed clicks and even deaths because of them. But I can't stop; it is the primary reason I don't play online. Please tell me I'm not the only mouse using motherfucker out there.

Also, how do you crawlers place your hands when you play? Since I use the mouse, obviously one hand goes there. The left hand is placed over IOP so I can auto-fight, auto-explore and Pray without much effort.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 02:47
by Lafaros
I typically have both hands on the home row keys. I use the keys "hjklyubn" to move about; It's a little hard to get used to at first, but I think it's ultimately a bit easier on the wrists. I used the Numpad exclusively for the longest time though.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 04:14
by Empathaur
I honestly have no idea how anyone could play this with the mouse as a primary input. Once you force yourself to learn the hotkeys, play is so much faster, smoother. That goes for any program, honestly.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 07:22
by prozacelf
I use the mouse to pick consumables a lot of the time, but only because I let the auto-sort do my inventory for me in many cases. I always put blood potions on "q" for a vampire, as an example of when i don't buy into that. It is much easier to do things with the hotkeys. Other than that, I only use the mouse to look around areas of the floor map I'm not on.

EDIT: It's not actually any harder to pick out a consumable using the hotkeys, I just grew used to picking them from my inventory with the mouse via tiles, so I still do it.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 07:29
by Sandman25
I use mouse for almost everything. Yes, that includes casting spells, exploring dungeon and swapping items. Though I try to create useful macros (F1 = za., F3 = ff, F5 = ce). Still it takes huge amount of real time for me to complete a game.

Edit: I use keyboard only for tab, o, p, i, ',', 5, '.', d, r, q, Ctrl+F, Shift+X, Ctrl+G and dropping limited number of items (there is no way to do the latter with mouse)

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 11:03
by Magipi
I use the mouse as well. I use an old laptop without a numpad, so that practically settles it (the movement keys yasderfgt are a joke).

I once tried playing online. I tied for half an hour - of which there were probably 5 minutes of actual playtime, the rest was spent trying to figure out how to move, how to manage items, how to memorize spells etc. In the end I gave up, naturally.

A side note: the game has a well functioning, good looking, user-friendly version for download, so why do they use that terrible mutant for online play? The only logical explanation is that they try to frighten off new players, because the servers are already overloaded.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 11:10
by Sandman25
Magipi wrote:The only logical explanation is that they try to frighten off new players.


That's definitely not true. I received very good answer for my questions regarding online playing in Technical Support forum.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 13:04
by TehDruid
I used to play with the mouse a lot when I was a noob, heck, my first win was without knowing about autofight on a HoFi!!! I always clicked to move and attack. That playstyle probably helped me survive a lot, I think, but is terribly slow. That win took like 8 hours or so. Nowadays my runs are full of o and tab. I stopped even picking items with the mouse or using them from the inventory, I just do that with the commands, it's really easy and fast once you get used to it. Only time I use the mouse is to spam-click on Sultanas/Grapes instead of e/(corresponding letter) spam! My wins now take about 2-2.5 hours.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 13:49
by cerebovssquire
Also, how do you crawlers place your hands when you play? Since I use the mouse, obviously one hand goes there. The left hand is placed over IOP so I can auto-fight, auto-explore and Pray without much effort.


I play console and don't use the mouse. I generally have one hand over the numrow and one over the arrows keys for moving (yes, this is really weird) and use the right hand for autoexplore, my prayers are automated, and the left hand for pretty much everything else if I don't need Shift for it.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 15:26
by Jabberwocky
Doesn't exist. Keyboard for everything.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Monday, 1st April 2013, 16:04
by Grimm
TehDruid wrote:Only time I use the mouse is to spam-click on Sultanas/Grapes instead of e/(corresponding letter) spam!

Use `.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Tuesday, 2nd April 2013, 18:36
by varsovie
Sometime in local tile to manage my inventory, never use the mouse otherwise.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Tuesday, 2nd April 2013, 20:34
by Confidence Interval
As you read the scroll, it crumbles to dust.
You hear a loud clanging noise!
It was a scroll of noise.
You hear a loud squeak!(x2)

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Tuesday, 2nd April 2013, 21:12
by Grimm
I call my mouse a quokka.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd April 2013, 08:05
by Confidence Interval
I call your quokka my bitch.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd April 2013, 08:11
by Grimm
Funny, that's what I call yo momma.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd April 2013, 08:16
by Confidence Interval
I expect she deserves it since I'm sure you wouldn't do such thing without due cause.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd April 2013, 10:34
by mandor
Right hand on "o", left on "tab".

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Thursday, 4th April 2013, 20:00
by SchwaWarrior
Image

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Thursday, 4th April 2013, 20:06
by Jabberwocky
My mouse is bigger than your mouse.
Spoiler: show
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(It sounds about the same with a thick enough Quebec accent.)

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Thursday, 4th April 2013, 21:13
by rebthor
Grimm wrote:
TehDruid wrote:Only time I use the mouse is to spam-click on Sultanas/Grapes instead of e/(corresponding letter) spam!

Use `.

That's my spam wand of flame/frost button. You do need to say "pew pew pew" when you do it though.

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Thursday, 4th April 2013, 21:32
by varsovie
Jabberwocky wrote:My mouse is bigger than your mouse.
Spoiler: show
Image

(It sounds about the same with a thick enough Quebec accent.)


Orignal =/ Sourie


Although with a french canadian accent happiness sounds like "a penis".... :roll:

Re: The Mouse?

PostPosted: Friday, 5th April 2013, 01:03
by Jabberwocky
I'm talking about english, not french. Don't sound the same anything alike in french unless the speaker is mumbling.