It had just occurred to me the other day

[szanth]

Crawl is basically Ninja Warrior.

If as many people had tried and retried to defeat the Ninja Warrior obstacle course as how many games of Crawl had been played, they'd probably have about the same amount of Ninja Warrior champions as Crawl has had people winning.

So I lol'd.

[Stormfox]

So Wipeout is Ninja Warrior with save scumming?

[szanth]

I'm not familiar with Wipeout. Vas is das?

[Stormfox]

It's an American imitation of Ninja Warrior, with more emphasis on elapsed time than simply completing the course. (And some direct competition on certain sections of the course.) The save scumming aspect comes in because you get as many tries as you like to clear a section of the course, but that adds to your time, so you may be eliminated from the competition if you fail too often.

Overall I'd say it's an inferior imitation, but there's definitely more schadenfreude in watching someone make multiple runs at a particular set of obstacles (instead of Ninja Warrior's one-and-done for failures), especially when you can see how badly fatigue is setting in.

So in roguelike terms, it's non-hardcore Diablo.

[szanth]

Granted.

By the sounds of it I'd definitely still prefer Ninja Warrior, though.

[tcjsavannah]

At least it's not like Ninja Ropes.