Trove's unreasonable requests.


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Post Wednesday, 19th September 2012, 16:36

Trove's unreasonable requests.

This time it asks for 8 wands of heal wounds.
Is this a reasonable number? I think you can get through the whole game without finding that much wands. Even if you'll get lucky with shops. Am I wrong?

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Post Wednesday, 19th September 2012, 16:39

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

Are you sure it's not a Wand of Heal Wounds (8)?
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Post Wednesday, 19th September 2012, 16:49

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

Actually it is. I just assumed it wants 8 wands, not the wand with 8 charges, because the latter would be unbelievable cheap. So this is charges? And any wand with more than 8 will do?

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Post Wednesday, 19th September 2012, 16:51

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

I don't even think it cares about the charges. I think that's just what an identified wand of heal wounds looks like.
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Post Wednesday, 19th September 2012, 16:52

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

That's good news. Thanks.
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Post Wednesday, 19th September 2012, 17:01

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

I believe it cares, but I don't know the code, so you'll have to burn a wand and possibly 1 or more recharge scrolls (THANKS, RECHARGE SCROLL / SACRIFICED MP FOR GIVING ME ONE POINT OF RECHARGE!)
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Post Wednesday, 19th September 2012, 17:36

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

Yeah, it does care. The relevant functions are in trove.des and lm_trove.lua.

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Post Wednesday, 19th September 2012, 19:19

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

I'd say a wand of heal wounds is worth more than all the loot in all the troves in every game ever unless that loot also contains a wand of heal wounds.

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Post Wednesday, 19th September 2012, 19:32

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

snow wrote:I'd say a wand of heal wounds is worth more than all the loot in all the troves in every game ever unless that loot also contains a wand of heal wounds.

Your first wand may be, yes.
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Post Wednesday, 19th September 2012, 19:52

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

snow wrote:I'd say a wand of heal wounds is worth more than all the loot in all the troves in every game ever unless that loot also contains a wand of heal wounds.

I was in one trove only. And it was crazy good. Dozen of rings and amulets including some randarts. After this trip I've become ready to everything that game can possibly throw on me. No wand can top that. I understand that trove can be disappointing, but I like this kind of gambling.

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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 00:47

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

The best troves are the ones that demand a fully-charged wand of hasting, but inside have the map with four 2x2 secret rooms that only contain stacks of rocks, or unenchanted and unbranded starting weapons and body armour.
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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 06:41

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

snow wrote:I'd say a wand of heal wounds is worth more than all the loot in all the troves in every game ever unless that loot also contains a wand of heal wounds.


Unless you are playing a DD, mummy or similar, why is a wand of heal wounds so important? you usually have plenty of potions.

The wand of hasting I do see as a very important item since !speed is rarer and converting ?recharge into 3-5 !speed is pretty good for those who can't cast Haste.
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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 13:43

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

I once found a Trove that asked me for my virginity. I thought that was weird: turned out it was a mimic.
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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 16:32

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

Confidence Interval wrote:I once found a Trove that asked me for my virginity. I thought that was weird: turned out it was a mimic.


I hope it wasn't inept... then-again, I hope it wasn't ravenous either.
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Post Friday, 21st September 2012, 07:59

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

XuaXua wrote:
Confidence Interval wrote:I once found a Trove that asked me for my virginity. I thought that was weird: turned out it was a mimic.


I hope it wasn't inept... then-again, I hope it wasn't ravenous either.

This beginning to sound like one of minmay's dreams.
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Post Friday, 21st September 2012, 10:59

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

Confidence Interval wrote:
XuaXua wrote:
Confidence Interval wrote:I once found a Trove that asked me for my virginity. I thought that was weird: turned out it was a mimic.


I hope it wasn't inept... then-again, I hope it wasn't ravenous either.

This beginning to sound like one of minmay's dreams.

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Post Friday, 21st September 2012, 12:54

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

minmay wrote:To be fair, I did get five wands of heal wounds in a trove once.

I think that's because troves use some acquirement code, and wand acquirement favors wands you haven't ided yet. So the equivalent of multiple wand acquirements that each have a high chance to generate healing is likely to produce multiple wands of healing. Jewellery troves can produce similarly silly results IIRC. It's really weird when it happens. At least it's not that gameable because you don't know the type of trove in advance.
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Post Friday, 21st September 2012, 15:38

Re: Trove's unreasonable requests.

minmay wrote:Yes, I know. I made the trove in question!

The one asking for CI's virginity?
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