experimenting with dith and stealth

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 09:29 by Amnesiac

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2592-g262d02f (tiles) character file. 9603 Vampire the Imperceptible (level 11, -1/74 HPs) Began as a Vampire Monk on Feb 13, 2014. Was an Elder of Dithmenos. Slain by a black bear (2 damage) ... on Level 3 of the Lair of Beasts. The game lasted 00:44:02 (11815 turns). Vampire the Imperceptible (Vampire Monk) Turns: 11815, Time: 00:44:02 HP -1/74 AC 0 Str 5 XL: 11 Next: 19% MP 11/11 EV 22 Int 12 God: Dithmenos [****..] Gold 448 SH 0 Dex 24 Spells: 1 memorised, 7 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + r - melded +11 cutlass "Plegela" {drain, +Fly SInv} rCold + + . Clarity . a - melded +2 robe rNeg + + + Conserve . (shield currently unavailable) rPois + rCorr + d - melded +0 helmet (curse) rElec . rRot + (cloak currently unavailable) SustAb . . Spirit . q - melded +2 pair of dwarf gloves rMut . Warding . v - melded +0 pair of boots Saprov . . . Stasis . e - amulet of resist corrosion MR +.... h - melded ring of protection from fire i - melded cursed ring of hunger @: bat-form, non-regenerating, flying, wreathed by umbra, very quick, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, (fangs 0), see invisible, (unbreathing) a: Bottle Blood, End Transformation, Shadow Step, Renounce Religion You were on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts. You worshipped Dithmenos. Dithmenos was greatly pleased with you. You were bloodless. You were in vampire bat-form. You visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and saw 12 of its levels. You also visited: Ossuary. You collected 588 gold pieces. You spent 140 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons r - the cursed +11,+11 cutlass "Plegela" (melded) {drain, +Fly SInv} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) A truly terrible weapon, it drains the life of those it strikes. It enhances your eyesight. It lets you fly. It has a curse placed upon it. u - a +1,+0 dwarven dagger w - a +4,+3 dagger of freezing E - a +1 blowgun Missiles c - 67 poisoned needles p - 8 needles of confusion x - a throwing net (quivered) y - 15 curare-tipped needles D - 7 needles of paralysis Armour a - a +2 robe (melded) d - a cursed +0 helmet (melded) q - a +2 pair of dwarven gloves (melded) v - a +0 pair of boots (melded) Scrolls b - 4 scrolls of amnesia f - 3 scrolls of remove curse g - a scroll of magic mapping o - 5 scrolls of identify s - 3 scrolls of teleportation t - a scroll of enchant armour C - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon I F - a scroll of fog Jewellery e - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck) h - a ring of protection from fire (melded) i - a cursed ring of hunger (melded) k - an uncursed ring of protection from fire Potions j - 15 potions of blood l - 7 potions of curing n - a potion of mutation {unknown} A - 2 potions of brilliance B - 2 potions of berserk rage G - a potion of confusion {unknown} Books m - a book of Power Spells Type Level Iskenderun's Mystic Blast Conjuration 4 Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5 Bolt of Magma Conjuration/Fire/Earth 5 Fulminant Prism Conjuration/Hexes 5 Iron Shot Conjuration/Earth 6 Orb of Destruction Conjuration 7 Miscellaneous z - a stone of tremors Skills: - Level 2.6 Fighting - Level 4.0 Short Blades - Level 3.2 Dodging + Level 23.0 Stealth - Level 4.3 Unarmed Combat You had 7 spell levels left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Regeneration Chrm/Necr #......... 96% 3 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (8/16) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (3/8) D:8 Swamp: Lair:3-6 Shoals: Lair:3-6 Snake: Lair:3-6 Spider: Lair:3-6 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Shops: D:4 % D:7 }}? D:8 ! Annotations: D:5 Pikel D:6 Edmund Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You do not heal naturally. You can bottle blood from corpses. ((You have razor-sharp teeth.))* You have supernaturally acute eyesight. ((You can survive without breathing.))* Message History A rat comes into view. You see here an orcish chain mail. A komodo dragon comes into view. The komodo dragon hisses angrily. The komodo dragon completely misses you. Use which ability? (? or * to list) Okay, then. The black bear completely misses you. The black bear claws you. The black bear barely misses you. The yak gores you! The quokka misses you. You hit the black bear but do no damage. The yak misses you. You hit the komodo dragon but do no damage. The komodo dragon closely misses you. The quokka misses you. The black bear completely misses you. The black bear barely misses you. The black bear barely misses you. The yak gores you! You barely miss the quokka. Your shadow attacks! Your shadow closely misses the quokka. The yak misses you. You hit the yak but do no damage. Your shadow attacks! Your shadow closely misses the yak. The komodo dragon bites you! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The quokka completely misses you. The black bear completely misses you. The black bear completely misses you. The black bear claws you. You die... ### #.# ## ###.### #.#####.....# #...##.....## #........S..# ##....r.#lUY## #.....####br### #.....# #PY..# #.....# #.r.## ##....# #.rY.# #....#.# ##.Y## #.. ##..#### ##Y## #... ###### ####Y.###..... #.###PP........... ##.......#.fU...... ###.......##Yf......# ##........Y.P.#.....f# #......).......#...## ###........Y.#Pr##.## #............PP...## You could see a komodo dragon, 6 yaks, a black bear, an adder, 2 green rats and a quokka. Vanquished Creatures 3 spiny frogs Grinder (D:6) A fire drake (Lair:3) 2 komodo dragons 10 blink frogs 9 yaks 4 hippogriffs 3 porcupines An ice beast (D:6) 3 ogres 2 sky beasts (D:8) 3 phantoms 3 crocodiles A centaur (D:7) Sigmund (D:5) Blork the orc (D:5) 2 giant slugs (Lair:1) A water moccasin (Lair:3) 10 giant frogs An agate snail (Lair:2) A troll zombie (D:8) 4 wights (D:8) A giant frog zombie (D:8) 9 crimson imps 2 scorpions (D:8) 4 hounds A human zombie (Ossuary) 3 orc wizards (D:5) 2 iguanas 4 worker ants A killer bee zombie (D:8) An ogre skeleton (D:7) A hound zombie (Ossuary) 4 mummies 3 gnolls 31 green rats 12 adders 2 giant centipedes A giant mite (D:4) A goliath beetle zombie (D:5) 5 worms 5 giant geckos 3 oozes 16 orcs 3 ball pythons A bat skeleton (D:8) A bat zombie (D:8) 3 giant cockroaches 10 hobgoblins 10 jackals 10 kobolds 9 quokkas 17 bats A giant cockroach zombie (D:5) 6 giant newts A giant spore (D:8) A gnoll skeleton (D:4) 12 goblins 2 goblin zombies (Ossuary) 3 hobgoblin zombies 2 kobold skeletons A kobold zombie (Ossuary) 2 orc skeletons (D:7) 3 orc zombies 16 rats A rat zombie (Ossuary) 4 ballistomycetes (D:8) 298 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) An elf zombie (Ossuary) A mummy (Ossuary) 2 goblin zombies (Ossuary) 6 plants (D:8) 10 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 308 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Vampire, the Vampire Monk, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 17/17 MP: 1/1 149 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/23 MP: 2/2 187 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 472 | D:4 | Identified Vehumet's Handbook of Burning Attacks 513 | D:4 | Found Taras Iqi's Food Shoppe. 548 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 572 | D:4 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 25/28 MP: 3/3 585 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 717 | D:2 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 920 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 925 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 934 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 1072 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos 1072 | Temple | Acquired Dithmenos' first power 1117 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 1145 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 1194 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 29/34 MP: 4/4 1377 | D:1 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 2520 | D:2 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 2630 | D:2 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 22/39 MP: 5/5 3351 | D:3 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 3451 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 3600 | D:4 | Killed a phantom 3600 | D:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 3600 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 46/46 MP: 6/6 3759 | D:4 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 4093 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 4093 | D:4 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 4153 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4163 | D:5 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 4370 | D:5 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 4375 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 4441 | Ossuary | Reached XP level 7. HP: 23/51 MP: 7/7 4577 | Ossuary | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 3 turns 5066 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 5414 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 5940 | D:6 | Noticed Grinder 5943 | D:6 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 5944 | D:6 | Killed Grinder 5944 | D:6 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 6039 | D:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 6039 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 57/57 MP: 8/8 6112 | D:5 | Noticed Blork the orc 6121 | D:5 | Killed Blork the orc 6385 | D:5 | Noticed Sigmund 6394 | D:5 | Killed Sigmund 6534 | D:5 | Acquired Dithmenos' second power 6556 | D:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 6683 | D:6 | Noticed Edmund 7916 | D:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration 7931 | D:7 | Found Shylyda's Gadget Emporium. 7933 | D:7 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth 8067 | D:7 | Found Khu Hiaze's Magic Scroll Boutique. 8081 | D:7 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 55 gold pieces 8081 | D:7 | Bought a scroll of identify for 20 gold pieces 8082 | D:7 | Bought a scroll of noise for 10 gold pieces 8082 | D:7 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon I for 55 gold pieces 8336 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 62/62 MP: 9/9 8362 | D:7 | Found Voraf's Gadget Shoppe. 8404 | D:7 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth 8637 | D:8 | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth 8851 | D:8 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 8941 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9034 | D:8 | Found Meseleo's Distillery. 9198 | D:8 | Acquired Dithmenos' third power 9294 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 9348 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 9397 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 68/68 MP: 10/10 9410 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 9417 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 9486 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 9493 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 9520 | Lair:1 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 9912 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 10404 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 10493 | Lair:2 | Got a warped cutlass 10496 | Lair:2 | Identified the cursed +11,+11 cutlass "Plegela" {drain, +Fly SInv} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 10586 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 11385 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 74/74 MP: 11/11 11744 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 11815 | Lair:3 | HP: 1/74 [komodo dragon (27)] 11815 | Lair:3 | Slain by a black bear Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 95 | 22 | 270 | 19 || 406 Dagger | 6 | 245 | 219 | 54 || 524 Cutlass | | | | 105 || 105 Throw: Javelin | | 18 | | || 18 Tomahawk | | 18 | | || 18 Abil: Bat Form | 3 | 1 | 13 | 8 || 25 End Transformatio | 3 | 1 | 13 | 7 || 24 Bottle Blood | | 2 | 23 | 9 || 34 Evoke: Wand | | | 8 | 1 || 9 Use: Scroll | | 11 | 9 | || 20 Potion | | | 12 | 1 || 13 Stab: Sleeping | 8 | 33 | 58 | 57 || 156 Distracted | | 3 | 3 | 1 || 7

Code:: 548 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 717 | D:2 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 925 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 934 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 1072 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos 1072 | Temple | Acquired Dithmenos' first power 1377 | D:1 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 2520 | D:2 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 3351 | D:3 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 3600 | D:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 4093 | D:4 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 5066 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 5944 | D:6 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 6039 | D:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 6556 | D:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 7933 | D:7 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth 8404 | D:7 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth 8637 | D:8 | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth 8851 | D:8 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 9348 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 9912 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 10404 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 10493 | Lair:2 | Got a warped cutlass 10496 | Lair:2 | Identified the cursed +11,+11 cutlass "Plegela" {drain, +Fly SInv} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 10586 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 11744 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth

This was interesting

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 10:36 by Amnesiac

I alsways thought that you can't rely on stealth alone. And it seems almost true, but dith gives an interesting opportunity to become uncannily stealthy on low levels. Vp is not demonstrative since he has bat form so here is the take two with a Ha, he can't easily get away, but still a strong stabber race, also somewhat on the tougher side. I don't know why you would want a weak stabber race for stabbers anyway. To be fair I'll admit that I've trained a couple levels in dodging, because of the cold feet, but still 95+% went into stealth.

ps: this also demonstrates a succesful temple dive with the worst luck of it being on D:7. A bit of a sore subject from GDD for me.

upd: hmm, dith does some weird shit with Sting - he throws a fairly strong shadow shard. Sting seems to be quite good, too.
upd: experimenting with stealth kinda turned into experimenting with shadow mimic. It works almost like free IBS, though acts not quite often, yet. Next time I need to do a more pure experiment with stealth probably...

Code:: Skills: - Level 2.6 Fighting - Level 1.5 Throwing - Level 5.5 Dodging + Level 24.0 Stealth - Level 3.2 Unarmed Combat - Level 1.0 Spellcasting - Level 1.0 Conjurations - Level 1.0 Air Magic - Level 1.0 Poison Magic 479 creatures vanquished Stab: Sleeping: 189 Distracted: 12

So I stabbed quite a lot, and ran away from another half. Now I have some means of killing creatures, though. Like this xbow

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2592-g262d02f (tiles) character file. Falco the Imperceptible (Halfling Monk) Turns: 19000, Time: 01:14:30 HP 58/72 AC 6 Str 8 XL: 12 Next: 88% MP 24/24 EV 20 Int 10 God: Dithmenos [*****.] Gold 895 SH 0 Dex 24 Spells: 3 memorised, 7 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . w - +2,+3 orc dagger rCold . . . Clarity . l - +0 elf robe rNeg . . . Conserve . (no shield) rPois . rCorr . f - +0 dwarf helmet rElec . rRot . g - +1 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . s - +0 pair of gloves rMut . Warding . (no boots) Saprov . . . Stasis . O - amulet of rage MR ..... v - ring of magical power A - ring of sustenance @: wreathed by umbra, not resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: mutation resistance 1, slow metabolism 1 a: Shadow Step, Shadow Form, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Dithmenos. Dithmenos is extremely pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 18 of its levels. You have also visited: Ossuary. You have collected 895 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand weapons e - a +0,+2 orcish dagger q - a +1,+2 crossbow of velocity w - a +2,+3 orcish dagger (weapon) M - a +0 blowgun Missiles a - 13 bolts of frost d - a poisoned dart j - 12 silver bolts n - 15 darts y - 95 poisoned needles B - 6 curare-tipped needles C - 2 tomahawks (quivered) E - 16 bolts Armour f - a +0 dwarven helmet (worn) g - a +1 cloak (worn) l - a +0 elven robe (worn) s - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) N - a +0 pair of gloves Comestibles b - 5 bread rations o - a beef jerky z - 4 meat rations G - 5 apples Scrolls h - 4 scrolls of remove curse i - 3 scrolls of enchant armour p - a scroll of fog r - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon I t - 3 scrolls of identify u - 4 scrolls of enchant weapon II x - a scroll of holy word F - a scroll of enchant weapon III H - 2 scrolls of teleportation J - a scroll labeled UZYPTE NEDY L - 3 scrolls of magic mapping Q - a scroll of recharging Jewellery v - a ring of magical power (right hand) A - a ring of sustenance (left hand) I - a dented ivory amulet O - an amulet of rage (around neck) Potions k - a potion of mutation D - a potion of heal wounds K - 2 potions of might Skills: - Level 2.6 Fighting - Level 1.5 Throwing - Level 5.5 Dodging + Level 24.0 Stealth - Level 3.2 Unarmed Combat - Level 1.0 Spellcasting - Level 1.0 Conjurations - Level 1.0 Air Magic - Level 1.0 Poison Magic You have 7 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Cure Poison Pois #......... 38% 2 ###.... x - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #....... 77% 3 ####... z - Sting Conj/Pois #... 24% 1 ##..... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (13/16) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (0/4) D:9 Lair (4/8) D:11 Spider (0/5) Lair:3 Swamp: Lair:3-6 Shoals: Lair:3-6 Snake: Lair:3-6 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Xom The Shining One Annotations: D:4 Falco's ghost, weakling HaMo D:12 Erolcha Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You have a slow metabolism. Message History No target in view! No target in view! No target in view! No target in view! No target in view! Char dumped to 'morgue/Falco.txt'. Char dumped to 'morgue/Falco.txt'. Partly explored, can't reach some places. Partly explored, can't reach some places. (D) Dungeon (T) Temple (O) Orcish Mines (L) Lair (N) Spider Nest Where to? (Enter - D:11 @ (x,y), ? - help) What level of the Dungeon? (default 11, ? - help) There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here. Key pressed, stopping travel. Unknown command. You drop a Young Poisoner's Handbook. You drop an ornate deck of cards. You drop a +0,+1 orcish cutlass. 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Vanquished Creatures Erica (D:12) 2 hill giants An elephant (D:11) 2 black mambas 5 spiny frogs Psyche (D:11) 2 komodo dragons (Lair:3) 2 fire drakes 2 trapdoor spiders (Lair:3) 3 sharks (Lair:1) 20 yaks 5 hippogriffs A hill giant skeleton (D:10) An elephant slug (D:11) A hungry ghost (D:11) 8 wolves A phantom (D:5) 4 giant goldfish (Lair:1) 2 orc warriors 3 sky beasts 5 ogres 6 porcupines 3 ice beasts 10 centaurs 6 crocodiles 2 giant slugs (Lair:1) 5 water moccasins 2 big kobolds 13 giant frogs 2 agate snails (Lair:2) 2 gnoll sergeants An eye of draining (D:5) 2 jellyfish (Lair:1) 8 killer bees 3 wights (D:11) A yak skeleton (D:8) 8 crimson imps 2 goliath beetles 3 big fish (Lair:1) A bog body (Ossuary) 2 jellies 4 orc priests A giant frog skeleton (D:9) A gnoll shaman (D:4) 6 hounds 8 orc wizards An orange rat (D:7) A scorpion (D:12) 6 worker ants 5 iguanas 5 sheep A big kobold zombie (D:8) Jessica (D:2) 2 hound skeletons 2 mummies 11 adders 14 gnolls 20 green rats A giant centipede (D:10) An orc skeleton (D:5) 3 giant mites A goliath beetle zombie (D:8) 5 worms An adder skeleton (D:4) 4 grey rats (D:7) An iguana zombie (D:6) 2 giant eyeballs (D:5) 6 giant geckos 29 orcs 2 bat zombies 12 hobgoblins 28 jackals 6 quokkas 5 ball pythons 21 bats 5 giant cockroaches 4 giant newts 12 goblins A hobgoblin skeleton (D:8) A hobgoblin zombie (Ossuary) 29 kobolds An orc zombie (D:5) A quokka zombie (D:6) 20 rats A rat zombie (Ossuary) 446 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A yak (Lair:2) A jellyfish (Lair:1) A wight (D:11) A big fish (Lair:1) 2 adders (Lair:2) 2 orcs (D:11) 2 jackals (Lair:2) 10 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) 2 fungi 21 plants 23 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 479 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Falco, the Halfling Monk, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 15/15 MP: 1/1 556 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/20 MP: 2/2 705 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth 1021 | D:3 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 17/25 MP: 3/3 1060 | D:4 | Noticed a yak 1118 | D:4 | Noticed a giant frog 1140 | D:4 | Killed a giant frog 1140 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 1140 | D:4 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/30 MP: 4/4 1352 | D:4 | Noticed Falco's ghost (weakling HaMo) 1572 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/35 MP: 5/5 1631 | D:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 2020 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 2180 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 2297 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 2374 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 2384 | D:7 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 38/41 MP: 6/6 2406 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 2428 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos 2428 | Temple | Acquired Dithmenos' first power 2447 | D:7 | Noticed an ogre 2563 | D:6 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 3325 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 3328 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 3385 | D:2 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 3521 | D:2 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 4143 | D:3 | Noticed a crimson imp 4146 | D:3 | Killed a crimson imp 4489 | D:3 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 35/45 MP: 7/7 4513 | D:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 4544 | D:4 | Noticed a yak 4546 | D:4 | Noticed a yak 4635 | D:3 | Noticed a hog 4635 | D:3 | a yak changed into a hog 4641 | D:3 | Noticed a fire drake 4641 | D:3 | a hog changed into a fire drake 5122 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 5131 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 5528 | D:5 | Noticed a phantom 5534 | D:5 | Killed a phantom 5534 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 5577 | D:5 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 5620 | D:5 | Noticed an ice beast 5643 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/51 MP: 8/8 5765 | D:6 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 5765 | D:6 | Noticed an ogre 5815 | D:6 | Killed an ogre 5815 | D:6 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 5878 | D:7 | Noticed a black bear 5925 | D:7 | Killed an ogre 5943 | D:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 6087 | D:8 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 6096 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 6135 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing 6261 | D:7 | Noticed a sky beast 6268 | D:7 | Killed a sky beast 6291 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 6506 | D:8 | Acquired Dithmenos' second power 6687 | D:8 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 6881 | D:9 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 9/9 6946 | D:7 | Noticed a crocodile 6953 | D:7 | Killed a crocodile 6995 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 7044 | D:7 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 7123 | D:7 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 7606 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 7989 | D:9 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 8044 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 8048 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 8559 | D:11 | You fall through a shaft! 8575 | D:12 | Noticed a hill giant 8617 | D:12 | Killed a hill giant 8617 | D:12 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth 8617 | D:12 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 61/61 MP: 10/10 8622 | D:12 | Noticed a cyclops 8722 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 8723 | D:11 | Noticed an elephant 8759 | D:11 | Killed an elephant 8759 | D:11 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth 8763 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 8818 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 8838 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 8838 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth 8853 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 8854 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 8938 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 8943 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 8981 | Lair:1 | Noticed a black mamba 8985 | Lair:1 | Killed a black mamba 9216 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 9222 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 9227 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 9232 | Lair:1 | Got an ichor-stained chain mail 9256 | Lair:1 | Identified the +7 chain mail of Wytsau Gucy {Str+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) 9292 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 31/66 MP: 11/11 9899 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison 9903 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 9955 | Lair:3 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 10322 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 10334 | Lair:3 | Acquired Dithmenos' third power 10530 | Lair:4 | Learned a level 1 spell: Sting 10615 | Lair:4 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 10695 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 10870 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic 10936 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic 10939 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting 10939 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 12751 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 22/72 MP: 0/15 13487 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 14620 | D:11 | Noticed Psyche 14653 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 15744 | D:5 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 15773 | D:5 | Noticed a centaur 15782 | D:5 | Killed a centaur 15807 | D:5 | Acquired Dithmenos' fourth power 16100 | D:4 | Killed a yak 16139 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 16325 | D:3 | Killed a fire drake 16670 | D:6 | Noticed an ogre 16679 | D:6 | Killed an ogre 18005 | D:11 | Killed Psyche 18327 | D:12 | Noticed Erica 18333 | D:12 | Killed Erica 18622 | D:12 | Noticed Erolcha 18626 | D:12 | Reached skill level 24 in Stealth 18635 | D:12 | Noticed a cyclops Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 15 | | | || 15 Dagger | 48 | 318 | 402 | 560 || 1328 Crossbow | | | 1 | || 1 Fire: Crossbow | | | | 167 || 167 Throw: Dart | 2 | | | 24 || 26 Tomahawk | | | 3 | 2 || 5 Cast: Sting | | | | 401 || 401 Abil: Evoke Berserk Rag | | | | 2 || 2 Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 15 | 13 || 29 Use: Potion | 3 | 2 | 15 | 11 || 31 Scroll | | | 14 | 13 || 27 Stab: Sleeping | 1 | 39 | 45 | 104 || 189 Distracted | | 2 | 2 | 8 || 12

Btw, by "rely only on stealth" I meant rely only on stealth skill, not rely on stealth as the only killing tool. I clarify so that some smart guys don't pick on my words, like that time when I said that I will train only magic and no defensive skills(meaning dodging, armour and shields), but was told that necromancy is for defense

(necromut, death door)

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 13:41 by Amnesiac

well, this was a bit stupid. I could easily run away or use the rod, but chose to melee them without healing, escape tools and drank potions too late...

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2592-g262d02f (tiles) character file. 28789 Falco the Imperceptible (level 13, -4/76 HPs) Began as a Halfling Monk on Feb 13, 2014. Was a Priest of Dithmenos. Slain by a centaur (6 damage) ... on Level 14 of the Dungeon. The game lasted 01:48:14 (24889 turns). Falco the Imperceptible (Halfling Monk) Turns: 24889, Time: 01:48:14 HP -4/76 AC 11 Str 17 XL: 13 Next: 68% MP 16/16 EV 26 Int 13 God: Dithmenos [***...] Gold 1020 SH 0 Dex 29 Spells: 3 memorised, 8 levels left rFire + + . SeeInvis . w - +2,+3 orc dagger rCold . . . Clarity . i - +2 robe {rN+} rNeg + . . Conserve + (no shield) rPois . rCorr . f - +0 dwarf helmet rElec . rRot . g - +1 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . s - +0 pair of gloves rMut . Warding . R - +2 pair of elf boots {+Jump} Saprov . . . Stasis . l - amulet of conservation MR ++... r - ring of protection from magic h - ring of the Madman {rF++ MR Str+4 Int+3} @: mighty, agile, very slightly contaminated, wreathed by umbra, very resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: mutation resistance 1, slow metabolism 1 a: Shadow Step, Renounce Religion, Evoke Jump Attack You were on level 14 of the Dungeon. You worshipped Dithmenos. Dithmenos was most pleased with you. You were near starving. You visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and saw 20 of its levels. You also visited: Labyrinth and Ossuary. You collected 1020 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand weapons q - a +1,+2 crossbow of velocity u - a +0,+3 dagger of chaos w - a +2,+3 orcish dagger (weapon) M - a +0 blowgun Missiles a - 9 bolts of frost j - 12 silver bolts y - 95 poisoned needles B - 6 curare-tipped needles C - a tomahawk (quivered) E - 38 bolts Armour f - a +0 dwarven helmet (worn) g - a +1 cloak (worn) i - a +2 robe of positive energy (worn) s - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) R - a +2 pair of elven boots of jumping (worn) Magical devices b - a wand of draining (5) c - a wand of slowing (3) I - a wand of digging (6) S - a wand of polymorph (13) Comestibles G - 5 apples N - a rotting chunk of giant goldfish flesh Jewellery h - the ring of the Madman (left hand) {rF++ MR Str+4 Int+3} (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth) [ring of protection from magic] It affects your strength (+4). It affects your intelligence (+3). It greatly protects you from fire. k - an uncursed ring of fire l - an amulet of conservation (around neck) m - an uncursed ring of magical power r - a ring of protection from magic (right hand) v - an uncursed ring of magical power A - an uncursed ring of sustenance F - an uncursed ring of fire O - an uncursed amulet of rage P - a +3 ring of strength Q - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion Potions K - a potion of might Books n - the Almanac of Moulding (You found it in a labyrinth) Spells Type Level Spider Form Transmutation/Poison 3 Passwall Transmutation/Earth 3 Statue Form Transmutation/Earth 6 Rods o - a +0 rod of frigid destruction (6/12) (You found it on level 14 of the Dungeon) Skills: - Level 2.6 Fighting - Level 1.5 Throwing - Level 5.5 Dodging + Level 26.1 Stealth - Level 3.2 Unarmed Combat - Level 1.0 Spellcasting - Level 1.0 Conjurations - Level 1.0 Air Magic - Level 1.0 Poison Magic You had 8 spell levels left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Cure Poison Pois #......... 30% 2 ###.... x - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #....... 65% 3 ####... z - Sting Conj/Pois #... 21% 1 ##..... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/16) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (0/4) D:9 Lair (4/8) D:11 Spider (0/5) Lair:3 Swamp: Lair:3-6 Shoals: Lair:3-6 Snake: Lair:3-6 Vaults: D:14-15 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Xom The Shining One Annotations: D:4 Falco's ghost, weakling HaMo Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You have a slow metabolism. Message History You hit the centaur. You kill the centaur! Dithmenos accepts your kill. The centaur completely misses you. You slash the centaur! The centaur is heavily wounded. The centaur closely misses you. You puncture the centaur! The centaur is almost dead. The centaur hits you but does no damage. The centaur misses you. You puncture the centaur! You kill the centaur! Dithmenos accepts your kill. You are near starving! The centaur wields a bow. The centaur shoots an arrow of flame. The arrow of flame misses you. You slash the centaur! The centaur is heavily wounded. The centaur misses you. The centaur hits you. 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Vanquished Creatures A minotaur (Lab) Harold (D:15) Erica (D:12) Erolcha (D:12) 3 hill giants A cyclops (D:12) An elephant (D:11) 4 black mambas 7 spiny frogs Psyche (D:11) A troll (D:12) 2 komodo dragons (Lair:3) 2 fire drakes 2 trapdoor spiders (Lair:3) A water elemental (D:14) 6 sharks 26 yaks 9 hippogriffs A hill giant skeleton (D:10) An elephant slug (D:11) 7 vampire mosquitoes A wraith (D:13) A mottled dragon (D:14) 3 hungry ghosts 12 wolves A phantom (D:5) 6 giant goldfish 2 orc warriors 3 sky beasts 6 ogres 8 porcupines 3 ice beasts 14 centaurs A brain worm (D:14) 8 crocodiles 2 giant slugs (Lair:1) 5 water moccasins 2 big kobolds 18 giant frogs 2 agate snails (Lair:2) 2 gnoll sergeants An eye of draining (D:5) 4 jellyfish 11 killer bees 3 wights (D:11) 5 electric eels A yak skeleton (D:8) 12 crimson imps 2 goliath beetles A hound (shapeshifter) (D:14) 6 big fish A bog body (Ossuary) 2 jellies 4 orc priests A giant frog skeleton (D:9) A gnoll shaman (D:4) 7 hounds 8 orc wizards An orange rat (D:7) A scorpion (D:12) 6 worker ants 7 iguanas 10 sheep A big kobold zombie (D:8) Jessica (D:2) 2 hound skeletons 3 mummies 13 adders 14 gnolls 22 green rats 2 giant centipedes An orc skeleton (D:5) 4 giant mites A goliath beetle zombie (D:8) 5 worms An adder skeleton (D:4) 4 grey rats (D:7) An iguana zombie (D:6) 3 giant eyeballs 7 giant geckos 29 orcs 2 bat zombies 12 hobgoblins 28 jackals 8 quokkas 5 ball pythons 23 bats 5 giant cockroaches 4 giant newts 12 goblins A hobgoblin skeleton (D:8) A hobgoblin zombie (Ossuary) 29 kobolds An orc zombie (D:5) A quokka zombie (D:6) 24 rats A rat zombie (Ossuary) 3 ballistomycetes (D:13) A plant (Lair:2) 549 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A yak (Lair:2) A jellyfish (Lair:1) A wight (D:11) A big fish (Lair:1) 2 adders (Lair:2) 2 orcs (D:11) 2 jackals (Lair:2) 10 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) 4 fungi 21 plants 25 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 584 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Falco, the Halfling Monk, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 15/15 MP: 1/1 556 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/20 MP: 2/2 705 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth 1021 | D:3 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 17/25 MP: 3/3 1060 | D:4 | Noticed a yak 1118 | D:4 | Noticed a giant frog 1140 | D:4 | Killed a giant frog 1140 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 1140 | D:4 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/30 MP: 4/4 1352 | D:4 | Noticed Falco's ghost (weakling HaMo) 1572 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/35 MP: 5/5 1631 | D:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 2020 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 2180 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 2297 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 2374 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 2384 | D:7 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 38/41 MP: 6/6 2406 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 2428 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos 2428 | Temple | Acquired Dithmenos' first power 2447 | D:7 | Noticed an ogre 2563 | D:6 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 3325 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 3328 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 3385 | D:2 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 3521 | D:2 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 4143 | D:3 | Noticed a crimson imp 4146 | D:3 | Killed a crimson imp 4489 | D:3 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 35/45 MP: 7/7 4513 | D:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 4544 | D:4 | Noticed a yak 4546 | D:4 | Noticed a yak 4635 | D:3 | Noticed a hog 4635 | D:3 | a yak changed into a hog 4641 | D:3 | Noticed a fire drake 4641 | D:3 | a hog changed into a fire drake 5122 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 5131 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 5528 | D:5 | Noticed a phantom 5534 | D:5 | Killed a phantom 5534 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 5577 | D:5 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 5620 | D:5 | Noticed an ice beast 5643 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/51 MP: 8/8 5765 | D:6 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 5765 | D:6 | Noticed an ogre 5815 | D:6 | Killed an ogre 5815 | D:6 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 5878 | D:7 | Noticed a black bear 5925 | D:7 | Killed an ogre 5943 | D:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 6087 | D:8 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 6096 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 6135 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing 6261 | D:7 | Noticed a sky beast 6268 | D:7 | Killed a sky beast 6291 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 6506 | D:8 | Acquired Dithmenos' second power 6687 | D:8 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 6881 | D:9 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 9/9 6946 | D:7 | Noticed a crocodile 6953 | D:7 | Killed a crocodile 6995 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 7044 | D:7 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 7123 | D:7 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 7606 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 7989 | D:9 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 8044 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 8048 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 8559 | D:11 | You fall through a shaft! 8575 | D:12 | Noticed a hill giant 8617 | D:12 | Killed a hill giant 8617 | D:12 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth 8617 | D:12 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 61/61 MP: 10/10 8622 | D:12 | Noticed a cyclops 8722 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 8723 | D:11 | Noticed an elephant 8759 | D:11 | Killed an elephant 8759 | D:11 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth 8763 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 8818 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 8838 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 8838 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth 8853 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 8854 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 8938 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 8943 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 8981 | Lair:1 | Noticed a black mamba 8985 | Lair:1 | Killed a black mamba 9216 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 9222 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 9227 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 9232 | Lair:1 | Got an ichor-stained chain mail 9256 | Lair:1 | Identified the +7 chain mail of Wytsau Gucy {Str+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) 9292 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 31/66 MP: 11/11 9899 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison 9903 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 9955 | Lair:3 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 10322 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 10334 | Lair:3 | Acquired Dithmenos' third power 10530 | Lair:4 | Learned a level 1 spell: Sting 10615 | Lair:4 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 10695 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 10870 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic 10936 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic 10939 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting 10939 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 12751 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 22/72 MP: 0/15 13487 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 14620 | D:11 | Noticed Psyche 14653 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 15744 | D:5 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 15773 | D:5 | Noticed a centaur 15782 | D:5 | Killed a centaur 15807 | D:5 | Acquired Dithmenos' fourth power 16100 | D:4 | Killed a yak 16139 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 16325 | D:3 | Killed a fire drake 16670 | D:6 | Noticed an ogre 16679 | D:6 | Killed an ogre 18005 | D:11 | Killed Psyche 18327 | D:12 | Noticed Erica 18333 | D:12 | Killed Erica 18622 | D:12 | Noticed Erolcha 18626 | D:12 | Reached skill level 24 in Stealth 18635 | D:12 | Noticed a cyclops 19621 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 34/76 MP: 2/16 21912 | D:11 | Reached skill level 25 in Stealth 22099 | D:12 | Killed a cyclops 22343 | D:12 | Noticed a hill giant 22345 | D:12 | Killed a hill giant 22366 | D:12 | Noticed a troll 22371 | D:12 | Killed a troll 22396 | D:12 | Killed Erolcha 22961 | D:14 | Identified a +0 rod of frigid destruction (12/12) (You found it on level 14 of the Dungeon) 23194 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 23194 | D:15 | Noticed Harold 23198 | D:15 | Killed Harold 23341 | D:14 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 23357 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 23609 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur 24361 | Lab | Killed a minotaur 24361 | Lab | Reached skill level 26 in Stealth 24363 | Lab | Got a slimy brass ring 24379 | Lab | Identified the Almanac of Moulding 24381 | Lab | Got a transparent leather armour 24388 | D:14 | Identified a +3 rod of striking (10/10) (You found it in a labyrinth) 24400 | D:14 | Identified the cursed +0 leather armour "Schallogh" {Str+3 Int-1} (You found it in a labyrinth) 24418 | D:14 | Identified the ring of the Madman {rF++ MR Str+4 Int+3} (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth) 24777 | D:14 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 24840 | D:14 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 24882 | D:14 | HP: 2/76 [centaur (2)] 24889 | D:14 | Slain by a centaur Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 15 | | | | || 15 Dagger | 48 | 318 | 402 | 613 | 431 || 1812 Crossbow | | | 1 | | || 1 Rod | | | | | 4 || 4 Fire: Crossbow | | | | 183 | 35 || 218 Throw: Dart | 2 | | | 24 | || 26 Tomahawk | | | 3 | 2 | 3 || 8 Cast: Sting | | | | 469 | 60 || 529 Mephitic Cloud | | | | | 4 || 4 Invok: Shadow Step | | | | | 1 || 1 Abil: Evoke Berserk Rag | | | | 2 | 2 || 4 Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 15 | 13 | 20 || 49 Rod | | | | | 5 || 5 Use: Potion | 3 | 2 | 15 | 11 | 10 || 41 Scroll | | | 14 | 14 | 11 || 39 Stab: Sleeping | 1 | 39 | 45 | 108 | 31 || 224 Distracted | | 2 | 2 | 8 | 2 || 14 Confused | | | | | 2 || 2

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 15:51 by Amnesiac

This one is stupid too, but I must say it quite fun to hunt for stabs and having to find ways of escaping

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2592-g262d02f (tiles) character file. 16799 Falco the Imperceptible (level 12, -1/72 HPs) Began as a Halfling Monk on Feb 13, 2014. Was a High Priest of Dithmenos. Slain by a komodo dragon (23 damage) ... on Level 4 of the Lair of Beasts. The game lasted 00:48:39 (15079 turns). Falco the Imperceptible (Halfling Monk) Turns: 15079, Time: 00:48:39 HP -1/72 AC 9 Str 7 (8) XL: 12 Next: 66% MP 12/12 EV 17 Int 12 God: Dithmenos [*****.] Gold 661 SH 13 Dex 24 Spells: 0 memorised, 11 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + p - +6,+9 short sword of Wusohel {pain, +Rage rElec rPois rC++} rCold + + . Clarity . w - +2 robe rNeg . . . Conserve . z - +1 dwarf buckler rPois + rCorr + h - +2 hat rElec + rRot . s - +0 elf cloak SustAb . . Spirit . b - +0 pair of gloves rMut . Warding . r - +0 pair of boots Saprov . . . Stasis . n - amulet of resist corrosion MR ..... d - +2 ring of intelligence u - ring of see invisible @: non-regenerating, badly diseased, wreathed by umbra, not resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: mutation resistance 1, slow metabolism 1 a: Shadow Step, Shadow Form, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage You were on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts. You worshipped Dithmenos. Dithmenos was extremely pleased with you. You were near starving. You visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and saw 13 of its levels. You collected 713 gold pieces. You spent 52 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons p - the +6,+9 short sword of Wusohel (weapon) {pain, +Rage rElec rPois rC++} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) In the hands of one skilled in necromantic magic, it inflicts extra damage on living creatures. It greatly protects you from cold. It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from poison. It lets you go berserk. T - a +4,+2 dagger of chaos Missiles a - 11 darts of frost m - 4 throwing nets q - a throwing net [frayed] E - 3 tomahawks (quivered) G - 21 poisoned needles Armour b - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) h - a +2 hat (worn) r - a +0 pair of boots (worn) s - a +0 elven cloak (worn) w - a +2 robe (worn) z - a +1 dwarven buckler (worn) Magical devices e - a wand of disintegration (3) j - a wand of digging (11) A - a wand of flame (11) O - a wand of magic darts (16) Q - a wand of fire (6) S - a wand of fireball (2) Comestibles i - 2 pears o - a meat ration F - 3 chokos Scrolls c - a scroll of magic mapping {unknown} f - a scroll of teleportation g - a scroll of vulnerability {unknown} l - 2 scrolls of blinking v - 3 scrolls of remove curse y - a scroll of recharging {unknown} D - 2 scrolls of fear K - a scroll of acquirement {unknown} M - a scroll of fog {unknown} Jewellery d - a +2 ring of intelligence (right hand) n - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck) u - a ring of see invisible (left hand) C - an uncursed ring of fire L - an uncursed amulet of stasis Potions I - a potion of brilliance N - 2 potions of restore abilities R - 3 potions of berserk rage Skills: - Level 2.6 Fighting - Level 3.6 Dodging + Level 24.2 Stealth - Level 3.2 Unarmed Combat You had 11 spell levels left. You didn't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (8/16) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (4/8) D:8 Swamp: Lair:3-6 Shoals: Lair:3-6 Snake: Lair:3-6 Spider: Lair:3-6 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru Sif Muna Xom The Shining One Shops: D:5 * D:7 / Annotations: D:3 Grinder Lair:2 exclusion: 3 blink frogs Lair:3 Harold Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You have a slow metabolism. Message History The komodo dragon is severely wounded. You block the komodo dragon's attack. You hit the komodo dragon. The komodo dragon is almost dead. You block the komodo dragon's attack. You hit the komodo dragon but do no damage. The komodo dragon is almost dead. The komodo dragon bites you! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You feel ill. You hit the komodo dragon. The komodo dragon is almost dead. Your shadow attacks! Your shadow hits the komodo dragon but does no damage. The komodo dragon barely misses you. You feel much better. The komodo dragon bites you! You feel ill. You barely miss the komodo dragon. The komodo dragon is almost dead. The komodo dragon bites you! 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Vanquished Creatures 3 hydras Erica (Lair:3) An unseen horror (D:8) 2 spiny frogs Psyche (D:8) 5 komodo dragons A hydra skeleton (D:8) 5 blink frogs (Lair:1) A queen bee (Lair:4) A basilisk (Lair:3) 12 yaks 3 sharks (Lair:1) 2 hippogriffs 6 wolves (Lair:3) 2 porcupines (Lair:1) A necrophage (D:7) An orc warrior (D:8) A black bear (D:8) 2 sky beasts 5 giant goldfish 3 phantoms 2 ogres 4 centaurs 2 ice beasts 3 crocodiles 11 giant frogs 3 giant slugs 5 water moccasins Blork the orc (D:7) 5 agate snails A wyvern skeleton (D:6) A troll zombie (D:8) 8 killer bees (Lair:4) A crimson imp (D:5) 2 electric eels (Lair:1) 5 hounds 4 iguanas 7 orc priests 2 jellies 2 big fish (Lair:1) An iron imp (D:6) 2 scorpions 8 worker ants A quasit (D:6) 7 orc wizards A killer bee zombie (D:8) 14 sheep A big kobold skeleton (D:8) A hound skeleton (D:8) 23 green rats 17 adders 4 giant centipedes 9 gnolls 2 giant mites (D:6) A worm (Lair:4) An adder zombie (D:8) 3 giant geckos 3 oozes 27 orcs A ball python (D:1) 16 bats 2 giant cockroaches 9 hobgoblins 25 jackals 2 quokkas (Lair:4) 3 giant newts 12 goblins A hobgoblin zombie (D:8) 8 kobolds A kobold zombie (D:6) 2 orc skeletons 18 rats 354 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A fungus (Lair:4) A plant (D:8) 2 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 356 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Falco, the Halfling Monk, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 15/15 MP: 1/1 303 | D:3 | Noticed Grinder 369 | D:3 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/20 MP: 2/2 504 | D:4 | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth 616 | D:4 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 677 | D:4 | Got an ebony quarterstaff 695 | D:4 | Identified the +6,+2 quarterstaff "Strousku" {crush, Str+3} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 790 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 794 | D:4 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 25/25 MP: 3/3 799 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 805 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 809 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos 809 | Temple | Acquired Dithmenos' first power 862 | D:4 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 19/30 MP: 4/4 1013 | D:2 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 1398 | D:2 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 30/35 MP: 5/5 1494 | D:2 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 1643 | D:2 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 1733 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 2267 | D:4 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 2276 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2412 | D:4 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 2468 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2468 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 2468 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 6/6 2572 | D:4 | Noticed an ice beast 2905 | D:3 | Killed an ice beast 2905 | D:3 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 2935 | D:3 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 4 turns 3008 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3138 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 3138 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 45/45 MP: 7/7 3170 | D:5 | Found Relingix's Assorted Antiques. 3173 | D:5 | Bought a scroll labeled INYWNI KAKATT for 26 gold pieces 3173 | D:5 | Bought a scroll labeled GROHEKKUSY for 26 gold pieces 3495 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 3817 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/51 MP: 8/8 3872 | D:6 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 4376 | D:5 | Acquired Dithmenos' second power 4519 | D:6 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 4629 | D:7 | Found Aqean's Magical Wand Emporium. 4940 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 4948 | D:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 5084 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 28/55 MP: 9/9 5243 | D:7 | Noticed Blork the orc 5249 | D:7 | Killed Blork the orc 6040 | D:7 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 7017 | D:7 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7028 | D:7 | Got a slimy short sword 7029 | D:7 | Identified the +6,+9 short sword of Wusohel {pain, +Rage rElec rPois rC++} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) 7042 | D:8 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth 7190 | D:8 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth 7217 | D:8 | Noticed Psyche 7229 | D:8 | Killed Psyche 7229 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 61/61 MP: 10/10 7393 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 7399 | D:8 | Noticed a komodo dragon 7526 | D:8 | Killed a komodo dragon 7526 | D:8 | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth 7701 | D:8 | Noticed an unseen horror 7717 | D:8 | Killed an unseen horror 7845 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7851 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 7857 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 7868 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 8182 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 66/66 MP: 11/11 8228 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 8335 | Lair:1 | Acquired Dithmenos' third power 9082 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 9552 | Lair:2 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 9554 | Lair:2 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 11220 | Lair:3 | Noticed Harold 11321 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 11721 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 25/72 MP: 12/12 12137 | Lair:3 | Noticed Erica 12149 | Lair:3 | Killed Erica 12149 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 12424 | Lair:4 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 12426 | Lair:4 | Killed a nine-headed hydra 14607 | Lair:4 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 14707 | Lair:4 | Acquired Dithmenos' fourth power 14738 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 24 in Stealth 15064 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 15079 | Lair:4 | Slain by a komodo dragon Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 38 | | | || 38 Quarterstaff | 13 | | 155 | || 168 Dagger | 1 | 154 | 152 | || 307 Whip | | | 22 | || 22 Short sword | | | 18 | 760 || 778 Throw: Dart | | 6 | 1 | || 7 Throwing net | | 2 | | 2 || 4 Tomahawk | | | 1 | 3 || 4 Evoke: Wand | | | | 7 || 7 Use: Potion | | 7 | | 8 || 15 Scroll | | | 5 | 17 || 22 Stab: Sleeping | 3 | 16 | 35 | 81 || 135 Distracted | | 1 | 5 | 7 || 13 Held in net/web | | | | 1 || 1

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 16:42 by Magipi

I don't really get it, what is exactly the experiment?

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 16:49 by Sar

Training only Stealth and dying to komodo dragons as a Halfling with a +9 short sword?

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 16:50 by tompliss

This is the experiment :

Skills:
- Level 2.6 Fighting
- Level 3.6 Dodging
+ Level 24.2 Stealth
- Level 3.2 Unarmed Combat

How far can stealth, improved by Dith, can bring you.
How "OP" can it be.
Could you get runes without training anything else ?

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 16:52 by Amnesiac

What he said^.The point is that without Dithmenos it used to be quite hard to be stealthy enough to be able to sneak on a large enough portion of monsters to get you by.

Also, I'm practicing temple diving to see if it's hard, after this post

That's the worst argument ever. The fact that you didn't die doing it doesn't mean it's a good strategy. It's a terrible one. You take a lot of risk for minimal gain which is the definition of a bad strategy.

So far I don't find it true as I am able to get to the temple about 9 times of 10.

I'm doing it again, btw, as it's been fun so far.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2592-g262d02f (tiles) character file. Falco the Covert (Halfling Monk) Turns: 4846, Time: 00:13:27 HP 45/45 AC 2 Str 8 XL: 7 Next: 37% MP 16/16 EV 17 Int 10 God: Dithmenos [**....] Gold 173 SH 0 Dex 21 Spells: 0 memorised, 6 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . z - +2,+0 dagger (pain) rCold . . . Clarity . s - +0 robe (curse) rNeg . . . Conserve . (no shield) rPois . rCorr . (no helmet) rElec . rRot . (no cloak) SustAb . . Spirit + (no gloves) rMut . Warding . (no boots) Saprov . . . Stasis . y - amulet of guardian spirit MR ..... (no ring) v - ring of magical power @: wreathed by umbra, not resistant to hostile enchantments, extraordinarily stealthy A: mutation resistance 1, slow metabolism 1 a: Shadow Step, Renounce Religion You are on level 5 of the Dungeon. You worship Dithmenos. Dithmenos is pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 6 of its levels. You have collected 173 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand weapons n - a +0,+3 orcish spear q - a +1,+2 sling of evasion w - a +0,+0 dagger z - a +2,+0 dagger of pain (weapon) A - a +0,+0 dagger D - a +0 blowgun M - a +0,+1 cutlass R - an elven cutlass Missiles g - 3 exploding darts (quivered) t - 56 stones Armour s - a cursed +0 robe (worn) u - a robe Magical devices I - a shiny glass wand L - a wand of magic darts {zapped: 3} Comestibles b - 2 bread rations j - 2 apples B - a meat ration H - 2 chokos N - a rotting chunk of hobgoblin flesh P - a chunk of adder flesh Scrolls c - 2 scrolls labeled GUMIUM SAATAFI d - a scroll labeled DEIBBIF WEAFF e - 3 scrolls labeled BRALICHICIE f - 2 scrolls labeled MANELIR ONEU k - 10 scrolls labeled SIH ENYAPPYDE l - 3 scrolls labeled BRULEMAKKA m - a scroll labeled LUQIZA LEEHO o - a scroll labeled FEAKKA LEOSAE r - 2 scrolls labeled STROCW LAOGU x - 2 scrolls labeled SHUM IHAETTA F - a scroll labeled VENESO MOXTU G - a scroll labeled AMIXEU LAUTE J - 2 scrolls labeled EFAGETUNKO K - a scroll labeled KLISE SMYNI Jewellery v - a ring of magical power (left hand) y - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck) Potions a - a red potion h - a purple potion i - a sedimented red potion p - 4 black potions C - a brown potion E - an emulsified cyan potion O - a glowing blue potion Q - a smoky pink potion Skills: - Level 2.6 Fighting - Level 3.6 Dodging + Level 10.6 Stealth - Level 3.2 Unarmed Combat You have 6 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (5/16) Temple (1/1) D:4 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You have a slow metabolism. Message History (D) Dungeon (T) Temple Where to? (Enter - D:4 @ (x,y), ? - help) What level of the Dungeon? (default 1, ? - help) There is a stone staircase leading down here. You climb downwards. A bat comes into view. Found 34 arrows and a smoky pink potion. Found a stone staircase leading down. There is a stone staircase leading up here. The helpless bat fails to defend itself. You skewer the bat like a kebab!!! You kill the bat! Dithmenos accepts your kill. Found a stone staircase leading down. Found an elven cutlass. Found an escape hatch in the floor. Found a spear. Found 12 darts. Q - a smoky pink potion You see here an elven cutlass. R - an elven cutlass #. .. ###. .# ... ... ...# ##.####.#####...# ##................# .........@........ ###.........>......# ....>.........)..... #..........>...... +#............... +<......(.....(. #............... ....................... ....##############.## .. .# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures A phantom (D:4) An ogre (D:4) A crimson imp (D:3) 3 worker ants (D:4) 8 gnolls 3 adders 4 worms An adder skeleton (D:4) An iguana skeleton (D:4) A giant eyeball (D:4) 2 giant geckos An ooze (D:3) An orc (D:3) 10 bats 9 giant cockroaches 10 goblins 8 hobgoblins 12 kobolds A quokka (D:2) A ball python (D:2) 4 giant newts 3 rats 86 creatures vanquished. Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Falco, the Halfling Monk, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 15/15 MP: 1/1 142 | D:3 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 193 | D:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth 193 | D:3 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/20 MP: 2/2 393 | D:4 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/25 MP: 3/3 542 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 668 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 678 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 713 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos 713 | Temple | Acquired Dithmenos' first power 779 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 1064 | D:1 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 20/30 MP: 4/4 1214 | D:1 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 2035 | D:2 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 2035 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 2759 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/35 MP: 5/5 2875 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 2920 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2940 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2940 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 2940 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 6/6 3011 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 3509 | D:3 | Noticed a crimson imp 3512 | D:3 | Killed a crimson imp 4211 | D:3 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 39/45 MP: 7/7 4589 | D:4 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 4594 | D:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 4820 | D:4 | Killed a phantom 4829 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 66 | 127 | 16 || 209 Dagger | 8 | 91 | 23 || 122 Spear | | 9 | || 9 Fire: Sling | | 31 | || 31 Throw: Dart | 2 | | || 2 Stab: Sleeping | 4 | 22 | 3 || 29 Distracted | | 1 | || 1

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 16:56 by Magipi

Yes, yes, now I get it.

Is it "cheating" to start with a background with some short blades skill? This pumps up your stabbing somewhat and also gives youa somewhat useful melee.

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 17:00 by Amnesiac

The point is that Mo get's ** piety from the start and can start using umbra as soon as I temple dive. I also don't play Vp and Sp, because they can easily get away and it's to powerful for purity of the test.

Code:: 668 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 678 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple

Code:: 790 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 805 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple

Code:: 2374 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 2406 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple

This is all done today and it's just these last halflings, this is how dangerous it is to dive temple and how rarely it can succeed

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 17:07 by Sandman25

Amnesiac wrote:
That's the worst argument ever. The fact that you didn't die doing it doesn't mean it's a good strategy. It's a terrible one. You take a lot of risk for minimal gain which is the definition of a bad strategy.

So far I don't find it true as I am able to get to the temple about 9 times of 10.

Sorry, it proves nothing. You get minimal gain indeed and you take a lot of risk. At least you should compare it to normal games. How often do you reach Temple if you don't dive? If it's about 10 times of 10, your strategy is bad.
If it's below 9, something is wrong, you should play more games to fix that statistics anomaly. If it's 9 too, only then you can pretend that your strategy is not bad. Though I still won't agree because it's easier to die to D3 monsters at lower XL no matter what your playing skill is. The only case when diving could be a good strategy is when you never die before Temple no matter if you dive or not, but obvious it cannot be true for any player.

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 17:09 by Sar

You might be interested in an experimental branch that is now running on CSZO, where Dith gives you some XP for just noticing monsters.

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 17:10 by Amnesiac

I said roughly, just to indicate that the success rate is quite high for me. If I die it's usually irrelevant to the dive. Avoiding monsters doesn't increase danger btw, it decreases it and then if I succeed, I get god's powers of the bat if Mo or can easily get the first * by killing some goblins and rats if the next best option for a pure stabber - As, who gets two incredible needles to gain him first few chunks of exp from ogres or such.

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 17:32 by twelwe

gods are supposed to help you in this game. lots of things are supposed to help and supplement your abilities. okawaru lets you hit things with lower investment in the skills you are using. i went into the orc crossbow bailey as an ogre with, predictably, 0 skill in crossbows. once i ran out of my own ammunition, i lured an orc warrior across the water, killed him, and took his crossbow. still 0 skill in crossbows. pumped heroism, equipped the crossbow, and shot the hell out of every orc. that is not op, that is what gods do, they help you win the game. dithmenos is no different

I can guarantee you the devs spectated every type of build while tweaking the god and you are not shedding any new light on anything here

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 18:25 by Amnesiac

Ok, but I don't try to prove otherwise or anything at all. I'm just experimenting/having fun/creating a challenge for myself. I'm not the first person to post his progress in this kind of research/challenge.
I'm mostly having fun here, thus I drank 2 potions of mutation. And I'm also posting in CYC, not pretending to be very serious and important. And while I'm at it I'm sharing my impressions. Back to the subject of optimality of temple diving(I'll do it every time anyway), it's also the question of what one wants - possibly increasing survivability by a few percent by avoiding this strategy or gaining some edge in creating a bit more powerful character than average and those who follow the normal sequence.

Btw, looks like my success rate of stabbing has considerably increased along with my experience with this stuff. It was about 40% before(you can calculate more accurately if you want) and now it's even above 50%. So half of what I meet, I successfully stab, pretty good, I think, considering that I don't disable monsters and don't use invisibility.

Code:: 377 creatures vanquished. Stab: Sleeping: 183 Distracted: 9 Confused: 1

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2592-g262d02f (tiles) character file. Falco the Imperceptible (Halfling Monk) Turns: 16909, Time: 01:12:34 HP 71/76 AC 8 Str 8 XL: 13 Next: 23% MP 23/23 EV 17 Int 10 God: Dithmenos [*****.] Gold 754 SH 11 Dex 24 Spells: 3 memorised, 5 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + w - +2,+0 dagger (pain) rCold . . . Clarity . d - +1 robe {rF+} rNeg . . . Conserve . f - +0 buckler rPois + rCorr . l - +2 hat rElec . rRot . (no cloak) SustAb . . Spirit + I - +1 pair of gloves rMut . Warding . B - +0 pair of boots Saprov . . . Stasis . y - amulet of guardian spirit MR ..... A - ring of poison resistance v - ring of magical power @: wreathed by umbra, not resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: horns 1, see invisible, high mp 1, mutation resistance 1, slow metabolism 1 a: Shadow Step, Shadow Form, Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Dithmenos. Dithmenos is extremely pleased with you. You are hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 14 of its levels. You have also visited: Volcano. You have collected 799 gold pieces. You have spent 45 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons e - a +0 blowgun m - a +1,+2 sling of evasion q - a +0,+2 whip of venom w - a +2,+0 dagger of pain (weapon) Q - the +6,+7 spear "Waisch" {freeze, rElec rF+} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures. It protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. Missiles c - 54 poisoned needles E - 3 throwing nets (quivered) M - 65 sling bullets Armour d - a +1 robe of fire resistance (worn) f - a +0 buckler (worn) l - a +2 hat (worn) B - a +0 pair of boots (worn) I - a +1 pair of gloves (worn) L - a +1 elven robe of cold resistance Magical devices t - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} G - a wand of enslavement {zapped: 10} R - a wand of slowing {zapped: 1} Comestibles j - 3 apples s - a beef jerky u - an orange x - 5 strawberries H - 3 chokos X - a meat ration Scrolls g - 3 scrolls of remove curse n - a scroll of magic mapping r - a scroll of teleportation D - 2 scrolls of fog F - a scroll of fear N - 2 scrolls of holy word S - a scroll of silence W - a scroll of identify Jewellery v - a ring of magical power (left hand) y - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck) A - a ring of poison resistance (right hand) V - an uncursed ring of protection from magic Potions k - a potion of restore abilities p - 4 potions of curing z - 3 potions of heal wounds C - a potion of speed K - 4 potions of might O - 4 potions of agility T - a potion of resistance Miscellaneous P - a fan of gales (inert) Rods a - a +6 lightning rod (16/16) (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) Skills: - Level 2.6 Fighting - Level 3.6 Dodging + Level 25.6 Stealth - Level 3.2 Unarmed Combat You have 5 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Summon Butterflies Summ #....... 45% 1 ##..... b - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex #....... 96% 3 ####... c - Passwall Trmt/Erth #......... 96% 3 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (8/16) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (5/8) D:8 Shoals (0/5) Lair:5 Spider (0/5) Lair:4 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin Shops: D:5 (/! D:8 /[ Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You have a slow metabolism. You have a pair of small horns on your head. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). Message History You drop a potion of cure mutation. Drop how many? 2 You drop 2 potions of curing. There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here. Things that are here: a book of Beasts; a book of Geomancy; a book of Flames; a book of Conjurations You drop 2 potions of brilliance. Unknown command. You can't wear that with your horns! Unknown command. You drop a helmet of fire resistance. Items here: !!! ???? 2 potions of curing; a potion of cure mutation; a scroll of amnesia; 3 scrolls of enchant weapon I; 4 scrolls of enchant weapon II; 2 scrolls of enchant armour; a potion of mutation Drop how many? 6 You drop 6 scrolls of remove curse. Unknown command. You see here a helmet of fire resistance. You drop an uncursed amulet of warding. Unknown command. 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Vanquished Creatures Gastronok (Lair:3) Snorg (Lair:3) 2 hydras Fannar (Lair:1) The ghost of Falco the Imperceptible, a powerful HaMo of Dithmenos (Lair:4) Nergalle (Lair:3) A lindwurm (Volcano) Pikel (D:6) Joseph (D:8) A wolf spider (Lair:4) A manticore (Volcano) Maurice (D:8) 5 elephants (Lair:3) A black mamba (Lair:3) 3 spiny frogs A fire drake (Volcano) Grinder (D:5) 4 blink frogs (Lair:4) A basilisk (Lair:5) Eustachio (D:8) 10 fire bats (Volcano) 4 formicids (Lair:2) A clay golem (Volcano) A hippogriff (Lair:2) 3 yaks (Lair:3) A wolf (Lair:3) A sky beast (D:6) 6 porcupines 2 black bears A swamp drake (Lair:1) 2 phantoms An orc warrior (D:7) A giant goldfish (Lair:2) An ice beast (D:7) 4 ogres 2 centaurs 8 crocodiles Sigmund (D:6) A lava worm (Volcano) 2 giant slugs A komodo dragon zombie (D:7) Blork the orc (D:6) 4 water moccasins 6 agate snails 13 giant frogs 2 wights (D:7) 4 crimson imps An electric eel (Lair:2) A goliath beetle (D:7) 3 orc wizards 4 hounds A big fish (Lair:2) 8 iguanas 5 worker ants 9 sheep An ogre skeleton (D:8) 8 gnolls 44 green rats 11 adders 2 giant centipedes 2 giant mites An inept feature mimic (D:6) 5 worms An adder skeleton (D:4) An adder zombie (D:5) An iguana skeleton (D:4) A giant eyeball (D:4) 9 giant geckos 2 oozes 10 orcs 20 bats 11 giant cockroaches 12 goblins 13 hobgoblins 25 jackals 15 kobolds 8 quokkas A ball python (D:2) 5 giant newts 19 rats A rat skeleton (D:5) A butterfly (Lair:3) A plant (Lair:1) 377 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Harold (Lair:4) A spiny frog (Lair:1) An iguana (Lair:4) An adder (Lair:4) A quokka (Lair:4) 5 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) Menkaure (D:6) A slave (D:6) A giant frog (Lair:1) A giant gecko (D:6) A fungus (Lair:4) A plant (D:8) 6 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 388 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Falco, the Halfling Monk, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 15/15 MP: 1/1 142 | D:3 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 193 | D:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth 193 | D:3 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/20 MP: 2/2 393 | D:4 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/25 MP: 3/3 542 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 668 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 678 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 713 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos 713 | Temple | Acquired Dithmenos' first power 779 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 1064 | D:1 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 20/30 MP: 4/4 1214 | D:1 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 2035 | D:2 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 2035 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 2759 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/35 MP: 5/5 2875 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 2920 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2940 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2940 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 2940 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 6/6 3011 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 3509 | D:3 | Noticed a crimson imp 3512 | D:3 | Killed a crimson imp 4211 | D:3 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 39/45 MP: 7/7 4589 | D:4 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 4594 | D:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 4820 | D:4 | Killed a phantom 4829 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4886 | D:5 | Got a blackened mace 4887 | D:5 | Identified the +7,-1 mace "Ohunuari" {crush, rC+ Dex+3 SInv} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 4898 | D:5 | Found Ecisch's Distillery. 4909 | D:5 | Bought a potion of mutation for 45 gold pieces 4910 | D:5 | Gained mutation: You have supernaturally acute eyesight. [potion of mutation] 4952 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 4972 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 4972 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 4972 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/51 MP: 8/8 5346 | D:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 5488 | D:5 | Found Enil's Magical Wand Boutique. 5501 | D:5 | Found Shuoqiaq's Weapon Boutique. 5583 | D:5 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 5753 | D:6 | Noticed Sigmund 5759 | D:6 | Killed Sigmund 5839 | D:6 | Acquired Dithmenos' second power 5982 | D:6 | Noticed Blork the orc 6164 | D:5 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 6311 | D:6 | Noticed Pikel 6322 | D:6 | Killed Pikel 6322 | D:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 6322 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 9/9 6328 | D:6 | Identified a +0 rod of fiery destruction (12/12) (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon) 6543 | D:6 | Killed Blork the orc 6543 | D:6 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 6842 | D:6 | Noticed Menkaure 7188 | D:6 | Killed Menkaure 7687 | D:7 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth 7960 | D:7 | Gained mutation: You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). [potion of mutation] 8099 | D:8 | Noticed Joseph 8104 | D:8 | Killed Joseph 8104 | D:8 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth 8104 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 52/61 MP: 11/11 8105 | D:8 | Found Tonasch Greuts' Magical Wand Emporium. 8156 | D:8 | Noticed Eustachio 8162 | D:8 | Found Phuss' Armour Shoppe. 8455 | D:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall 8619 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 8739 | D:7 | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth 9109 | D:8 | Killed Eustachio 9157 | D:8 | Noticed Maurice 9167 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9168 | D:8 | Noticed a komodo dragon 9170 | D:8 | Killed Maurice 9697 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 9831 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 9862 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 9862 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 9936 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 9944 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 9967 | Lair:1 | Acquired Dithmenos' third power 10096 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 57/66 MP: 12/12 10162 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 10236 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 10258 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 11172 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray 11768 | Lair:2 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 11857 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 12082 | Lair:2 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12749 | Lair:3 | Noticed Snorg 12755 | Lair:3 | Killed Snorg 12755 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 12932 | Lair:3 | Noticed Nergalle 12957 | Lair:3 | Killed Nergalle 13085 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 53/72 MP: 13/13 13092 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 13501 | Lair:2 | Noticed a griffon 13575 | Lair:3 | Noticed Gastronok 14102 | Lair:3 | Killed Gastronok 14342 | Lair:3 | Got a twisted spear 14343 | Lair:3 | Identified the +6,+7 spear "Waisch" {freeze, rElec rF+} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 14377 | Lair:4 | Noticed Harold 14452 | Lair:4 | Acquired Dithmenos' fourth power 14535 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 14625 | Lair:4 | Found a dark tunnel. 14664 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of beneficial mutation] 14681 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 14932 | Volcano | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 14944 | Volcano | Reached skill level 24 in Stealth 15632 | Lair:4 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 15640 | Lair:4 | Killed a four-headed hydra 15640 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 76/76 MP: 14/14 15668 | Lair:4 | Killed Harold 15668 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 25 in Stealth 15679 | Lair:4 | Noticed Falco's ghost (powerful HaMo) 15719 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 16770 | Lair:4 | Killed Falco's ghost Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 66 | 127 | 16 | 21 | || 230 Dagger | 8 | 91 | 209 | 409 | 16 || 733 Spear | | 9 | | 34 | 16 || 59 Whip | | | | 408 | 28 || 436 Rod | | | | 29 | || 29 Fire: Sling | | 31 | 116 | 5 | || 152 Bow | | | 74 | | || 74 Blowgun | | | 19 | 43 | 6 || 68 Throw: Dart | 2 | | 3 | | || 5 Cast: Passwall | | | | 4 | || 4 Evoke: Wand | | | 29 | 3 | 10 || 42 Rod | | | | 14 | 5 || 19 Fan of gales | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Use: Potion | | | 5 | 8 | || 13 Scroll | | | 18 | 17 | 1 || 36 Stab: Sleeping | 4 | 22 | 32 | 112 | 13 || 183 Distracted | | 1 | 1 | 6 | 1 || 9 Confused | | | | 1 | || 1

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 19:04 by Amnesiac

Sar wrote:Training only Stealth and dying to komodo dragons as a Halfling with a +9 short sword?

I thought I could get him :oops:

Sar wrote:You might be interested in an experimental branch that is now running on CSZO, where Dith gives you some XP for just noticing monsters.

Can't stand the lagging :/

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 19:15 by Sar

In my experience it's faster if you play through console, but that requires tolerating character graphics.

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 19:22 by Amnesiac

Sar wrote:In my experience it's faster if you play through console, but that requires tolerating character graphics.

can't either... I tried it for a bit, though, not so much lag as with some other servers, I guess, but still quite uncomfortable and the interface is a bit different. What's the reasoning for getting exp for seing new monsters, btw? It would better suit Ash, considering how he shares his experience with you and all.

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 19:33 by Sar

Well I guess Dith is a "stealth god" so the idea is he rewards you for just noticing monsters without killing them (of course you can kill that monster afterwards, but that won't net you full XP, only the "remaining" part of it, and it can be a hard fight.
Stealth builds in Sil work like that.

Thursday, 13th February 2014, 20:21 by Amnesiac

And what's the remaining part? Sounds interesting but not killing a sleeping monster is really unsatisfying... And I still don't understand the logic behind not killing and why do you get exp. For me stealth god equals stabbing god, which means killing

You also get piety for killing

Friday, 14th February 2014, 07:49 by Yermak

If you want to get Ninja without training anything but Stealth pick Spriggan. Once I made this and it wasn't hard.

Friday, 14th February 2014, 07:58 by Amnesiac

Yermak wrote:If you want to get Ninja without training anything but Stealth pick Spriggan. Once I made this and it wasn't hard.

Nah, their speed is cheating and doesn't make this experiment demonstrative.

Btw, I find this awesome how my success rate of stabbing has improved by 15% in one day, I wonder if I can further improve it. Probably yes.

upd: I've maxed stealth, so I'm moving on to some other useful stuff, but it won't affect statistics, unless I'm tempted to kill everything I meet, which is kind of the case... My success rate has falen below 50% - 236/497. Still pretty good. Well, stealth let me survive while gaining xp until now this in itself somewhat proves some effectiveness of the dith's uncanny stealth, I guess, but I don't have numbers from dith-less games of a similar conduct.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2592-g262d02f (tiles) character file. Falco the Ninja (Halfling Monk) Turns: 20468, Time: 01:32:23 HP 61/81 AC 9 Str 8 XL: 14 Next: 0% MP 24/26 EV 17 Int 12 God: Dithmenos [*****.] Gold 840 SH 11 Dex 24 Spells: 3 memorised, 7 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + w - -1,+1 orc dagger rCold . . . Clarity . d - +1 robe {rF+} rNeg . . . Conserve . f - +0 buckler rPois + rCorr . l - +2 hat rElec . rRot . b - +0 cloak SustAb . . Spirit + I - +1 pair of gloves rMut . Warding . B - +0 pair of boots Saprov . . . Stasis . y - amulet of guardian spirit MR +.... A - ring of poison resistance v - ring of magical power @: wreathed by umbra, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: horns 1, see invisible, clever 1, high mp 1, mutation resistance 1, slow metabolism 1 a: Shadow Step, Shadow Form, Renounce Religion You are on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Dithmenos. Dithmenos is extremely pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 16 of its levels. You have also visited: Volcano. You have collected 885 gold pieces. You have spent 45 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons e - a +0 blowgun m - a +1,+2 sling of evasion q - a +0,+2 whip of venom s - the +6,+7 spear "Waisch" {freeze, rElec rF+} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures. It protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. w - a -1,+1 orcish dagger (weapon) Missiles c - 54 poisoned needles E - 3 throwing nets (quivered) M - 91 sling bullets Armour b - a +0 cloak (worn) d - a +1 robe of fire resistance (worn) f - a +0 buckler (worn) l - a +2 hat (worn) B - a +0 pair of boots (worn) I - a +1 pair of gloves (worn) L - a +1 elven robe of cold resistance Magical devices t - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} J - a wand of enslavement R - a wand of slowing {zapped: 1} X - a wand of digging {zapped: 1} Comestibles H - 3 chokos Scrolls g - 4 scrolls of remove curse n - a scroll of magic mapping r - 3 scrolls of teleportation D - 2 scrolls of fog N - 2 scrolls of holy word S - a scroll of silence W - 2 scrolls of identify Jewellery o - a blackened bronze amulet v - a ring of magical power (left hand) y - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck) A - a ring of poison resistance (right hand) V - an uncursed ring of protection from magic Potions k - a potion of restore abilities p - 4 potions of curing z - 5 potions of heal wounds C - a potion of speed K - 4 potions of might O - 4 potions of agility Q - a potion of brilliance T - a potion of resistance U - 2 potions of porridge Miscellaneous P - a fan of gales (inert) Rods a - a +6 lightning rod (16/16) (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) Skills: - Level 2.6 Fighting - Level 3.6 Dodging O Level 27 Stealth + Level 0.0 Shields - Level 3.2 Unarmed Combat + Level 0.8 Spellcasting + Level 0.7 Conjurations - Level 1.0 Hexes + Level 0.8 Summonings + Level 0.9 Transmutations - Level 1.0 Earth Magic You have 7 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Summon Butterflies Summ #....... 28% 1 ##..... b - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex #....... 78% 3 ####... c - Passwall Trmt/Erth #......... 78% 3 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (8/16) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (7/8) D:8 Shoals (0/5) Lair:5 Snake (0/5) Lair:6 Spider (0/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin Shops: D:5 (/! D:8 /[ Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You have a slow metabolism. You have a pair of small horns on your head. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. Your mind is acute. (Int +2) You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). Message History Dithmenos accepts your kill. Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit) The +6,+7 spear "Waisch" {freeze, rElec rF+} stops glowing. w - a -1,+1 orcish dagger (weapon) As you read the scroll of fear, it crumbles to dust. You assume a fearsome visage. The fire drake looks frightened! Found an escape hatch in the floor. There is an escape hatch in the floor here. 2 death yaks come into view. The helpless death yak fails to defend itself. You chop the death yak into pieces!!!!! You kill the death yak! Dithmenos accepts your kill. Your Hexes skill increases to level 1! Your Earth Magic skill increases to level 1! You have reached level 14! The death yak bellows! Casting: Summon Butterflies Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. 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Vanquished Creatures Rupert (Lair:6) Gastronok (Lair:3) Snorg (Lair:3) 2 hydras Fannar (Lair:1) The ghost of Falco the Imperceptible, a powerful HaMo of Dithmenos (Lair:4) A death yak (Lair:7) Nergalle (Lair:3) A lindwurm (Volcano) Pikel (D:6) Joseph (D:8) A wolf spider (Lair:4) A manticore (Volcano) Maurice (D:8) 14 elephants 3 black mambas 3 spiny frogs 2 fire drakes 3 wandering mushrooms (Lair:5) Grinder (D:5) 4 blink frogs (Lair:4) A komodo dragon (D:8) A queen bee (Lair:5) A basilisk (Lair:5) A shark (Lair:5) Eustachio (D:8) 10 fire bats (Volcano) 4 formicids (Lair:2) A clay golem (Volcano) 4 nagas (Lair:6) 2 hippogriffs 3 yaks (Lair:3) A wolf (Lair:3) A sky beast (D:6) 8 porcupines 2 black bears A swamp drake (Lair:1) 2 phantoms An orc warrior (D:7) A giant goldfish (Lair:2) A boring beetle (Lair:6) An ice beast (D:7) 4 ogres 2 centaurs 10 crocodiles Sigmund (D:6) A lava worm (Volcano) 3 giant slugs A komodo dragon zombie (D:7) Blork the orc (D:6) 6 water moccasins 11 agate snails 15 giant frogs 25 killer bees 2 wights (D:7) 2 jellyfish (Lair:5) 4 crimson imps 2 electric eels 2 goliath beetles (D:7) 3 orc wizards 7 hounds 2 big fish 9 iguanas 5 worker ants 9 sheep An ogre skeleton (D:8) 8 gnolls 52 green rats 13 adders 2 giant centipedes 2 giant mites An inept feature mimic (D:6) 6 worms An adder skeleton (D:4) An adder zombie (D:5) An iguana skeleton (D:4) A giant eyeball (D:4) 9 giant geckos 2 oozes 11 orcs 24 bats 11 giant cockroaches 12 goblins 13 hobgoblins 28 jackals 15 kobolds 8 quokkas A ball python (D:2) 5 giant newts 21 rats A rat skeleton (D:5) A butterfly (Lair:3) A fungus (Lair:6) 4 plants 476 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Harold (Lair:4) A spiny frog (Lair:1) An iguana (Lair:4) An adder (Lair:4) A quokka (Lair:4) 5 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) Menkaure (D:6) A slave (D:6) A giant frog (Lair:1) A giant gecko (D:6) 6 butterflies (Lair:7) 4 fungi 2 plants 16 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 497 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Falco, the Halfling Monk, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 15/15 MP: 1/1 142 | D:3 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 193 | D:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth 193 | D:3 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/20 MP: 2/2 393 | D:4 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/25 MP: 3/3 542 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 668 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 678 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 713 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos 713 | Temple | Acquired Dithmenos' first power 779 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 1064 | D:1 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 20/30 MP: 4/4 1214 | D:1 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 2035 | D:2 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 2035 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 2759 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/35 MP: 5/5 2875 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 2920 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2940 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2940 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 2940 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 6/6 3011 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 3509 | D:3 | Noticed a crimson imp 3512 | D:3 | Killed a crimson imp 4211 | D:3 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 39/45 MP: 7/7 4589 | D:4 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 4594 | D:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 4820 | D:4 | Killed a phantom 4829 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4886 | D:5 | Got a blackened mace 4887 | D:5 | Identified the +7,-1 mace "Ohunuari" {crush, rC+ Dex+3 SInv} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 4898 | D:5 | Found Ecisch's Distillery. 4909 | D:5 | Bought a potion of mutation for 45 gold pieces 4910 | D:5 | Gained mutation: You have supernaturally acute eyesight. [potion of mutation] 4952 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 4972 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 4972 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 4972 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/51 MP: 8/8 5346 | D:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 5488 | D:5 | Found Enil's Magical Wand Boutique. 5501 | D:5 | Found Shuoqiaq's Weapon Boutique. 5583 | D:5 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 5753 | D:6 | Noticed Sigmund 5759 | D:6 | Killed Sigmund 5839 | D:6 | Acquired Dithmenos' second power 5982 | D:6 | Noticed Blork the orc 6164 | D:5 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 6311 | D:6 | Noticed Pikel 6322 | D:6 | Killed Pikel 6322 | D:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 6322 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 9/9 6328 | D:6 | Identified a +0 rod of fiery destruction (12/12) (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon) 6543 | D:6 | Killed Blork the orc 6543 | D:6 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 6842 | D:6 | Noticed Menkaure 7188 | D:6 | Killed Menkaure 7687 | D:7 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth 7960 | D:7 | Gained mutation: You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). [potion of mutation] 8099 | D:8 | Noticed Joseph 8104 | D:8 | Killed Joseph 8104 | D:8 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth 8104 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 52/61 MP: 11/11 8105 | D:8 | Found Tonasch Greuts' Magical Wand Emporium. 8156 | D:8 | Noticed Eustachio 8162 | D:8 | Found Phuss' Armour Shoppe. 8455 | D:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall 8619 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 8739 | D:7 | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth 9109 | D:8 | Killed Eustachio 9157 | D:8 | Noticed Maurice 9167 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9168 | D:8 | Noticed a komodo dragon 9170 | D:8 | Killed Maurice 9697 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 9831 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 9862 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 9862 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 9936 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 9944 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 9967 | Lair:1 | Acquired Dithmenos' third power 10096 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 57/66 MP: 12/12 10162 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 10236 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 10258 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 11172 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray 11768 | Lair:2 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 11857 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 12082 | Lair:2 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12749 | Lair:3 | Noticed Snorg 12755 | Lair:3 | Killed Snorg 12755 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 12932 | Lair:3 | Noticed Nergalle 12957 | Lair:3 | Killed Nergalle 13085 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 53/72 MP: 13/13 13092 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 13501 | Lair:2 | Noticed a griffon 13575 | Lair:3 | Noticed Gastronok 14102 | Lair:3 | Killed Gastronok 14342 | Lair:3 | Got a twisted spear 14343 | Lair:3 | Identified the +6,+7 spear "Waisch" {freeze, rElec rF+} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 14377 | Lair:4 | Noticed Harold 14452 | Lair:4 | Acquired Dithmenos' fourth power 14535 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 14625 | Lair:4 | Found a dark tunnel. 14664 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of beneficial mutation] 14681 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 14932 | Volcano | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 14944 | Volcano | Reached skill level 24 in Stealth 15632 | Lair:4 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 15640 | Lair:4 | Killed a four-headed hydra 15640 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 76/76 MP: 14/14 15668 | Lair:4 | Killed Harold 15668 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 25 in Stealth 15679 | Lair:4 | Noticed Falco's ghost (powerful HaMo) 15719 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 16770 | Lair:4 | Killed Falco's ghost 16958 | D:8 | Killed a komodo dragon 17490 | Lair:5 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of beneficial mutation] 17714 | Lair:6 | Noticed Rupert 18004 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 26 in Stealth 18817 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 18861 | Lair:6 | Killed Rupert 19545 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 20183 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 27 in Stealth 20295 | Lair:7 | Got a brightly glowing ring mail 20333 | Lair:7 | Identified the +1 ring mail of Khugaik {Str+2 Int+4} (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts) 20467 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Hexes 20467 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic 20467 | Lair:7 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 61/81 MP: 17/17 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 66 | 127 | 16 | 21 | || 230 Dagger | 8 | 91 | 209 | 409 | 86 || 803 Spear | | 9 | | 34 | 319 || 362 Whip | | | | 408 | 70 || 478 Rod | | | | 29 | || 29 Fire: Sling | | 31 | 116 | 5 | || 152 Bow | | | 74 | | || 74 Blowgun | | | 19 | 43 | 6 || 68 Throw: Dart | 2 | | 3 | | || 5 Cast: Passwall | | | | 4 | || 4 Summon Butterflie | | | | | 5 || 5 Evoke: Wand | | | 29 | 3 | 12 || 44 Rod | | | | 14 | 13 || 27 Fan of gales | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Use: Potion | | | 5 | 8 | 1 || 14 Scroll | | | 18 | 17 | 2 || 37 Stab: Sleeping | 4 | 22 | 32 | 112 | 50 || 220 Distracted | | 1 | 1 | 6 | 8 || 16 Confused | | | | 1 | || 1

Friday, 14th February 2014, 10:33 by Amnesiac

Ahh, following a wandering monster to stab it is so satisfying.

Code:: A death yak is nearby! You catch the helpless death yak momentarily off-guard. You carve the death yak like a ham!!!

Still, only 50% hp... I need some practice with short blades.

Code:: You strike the helpless wolf from a blind spot! You open the wolf like a pillowcase!!! You kill the wolf! Dithmenos accepts your kill. You catch the helpless wolf momentarily off-guard. You spit the wolf like a pig!!! You kill the wolf! Dithmenos accepts your kill.

I want to make a 5-kill combo now.

Every single time I tell myself "don't fuck with elves" and still I go... I wanted to take a break anyway

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2592-g262d02f (tiles) character file. 90422 Falco the Ninja (level 16, -2/103 HPs) Began as a Halfling Monk on Feb 13, 2014. Was the Champion of Dithmenos. Slain by a deep elf blademaster ... wielding a +0,+2 elven cutlass (15 damage) ... on Level 3 of the Elven Halls on Feb 14, 2014. The game lasted 03:18:08 (39017 turns). Falco the Ninja (Halfling Monk) Turns: 39017, Time: 03:18:09 HP -2/103 AC 9 Str 8 XL: 16 Next: 41% MP 0/32 EV 29 Int 12 God: Dithmenos [******] Gold 1702 SH 19 Dex 31 Spells: 4 memorised, 8 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + w - +2,+1 cutlass (elec) rCold . . . Clarity . d - +1 robe {rF+} rNeg + . . Conserve . f - +0 buckler rPois + rCorr . l - +2 hat rElec . rRot . b - +1 dwarf cloak {rPois} SustAb . . Spirit + H - +0 pair of gloves (curse) rMut . Warding . x - +0 pair of boots "Ejaod" {rN+} Saprov . . . Stasis . y - amulet of guardian spirit MR ++... V - ring of protection from magic v - ring of magical power @: agile, wreathed by umbra, very resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: horns 1, see invisible, clever 1, high mp 1, mutation resistance 1, slow metabolism 1 a: Shadow Step, Shadow Form, Renounce Religion You were on level 3 of the Elven Halls. You worshipped Dithmenos. Dithmenos was exalted by your worship. You were not hungry. You visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and saw 27 of its levels. You also visited: Volcano. You collected 2537 gold pieces. You spent 835 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons e - the +6,+6 short sword of World's End {distort, +Inv rElec} (You bought it in a shop on level 10 of the Dungeon) It warps and distorts space around it. Unwielding it can cause banishment or high damage. It insulates you from electricity. It lets you turn invisible. s - a +0 blowgun u - a -1,+2 orcish dagger of venom w - a +2,+1 cutlass of electrocution (weapon) W - a +3,+1 elven dagger of draining Missiles c - 99 poisoned needles j - 13 poisoned darts (quivered) Armour b - a +1 dwarven cloak of poison resistance (worn) d - a +1 robe of fire resistance (worn) f - a +0 buckler (worn) l - a +2 hat (worn) x - the +0 pair of boots "Ejaod" (worn) {rN+} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) It protects you from negative energy. H - a cursed +0 pair of gloves (worn) I - a +1 pair of gloves L - a +1 elven robe of cold resistance Magical devices t - a wand of teleportation (3) M - a wand of lightning (2) X - a wand of digging (6) Comestibles g - a bread ration n - 5 sausages Scrolls r - 2 scrolls of fog z - a scroll of vulnerability B - a scroll of magic mapping C - a scroll of amnesia D - 2 scrolls of fear F - a scroll of enchant weapon II G - a scroll of remove curse J - 2 scrolls of summoning N - 2 scrolls of holy word S - 2 scrolls of silence Jewellery o - an uncursed amulet of stasis v - a ring of magical power (left hand) y - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck) A - an uncursed ring of poison resistance E - an uncursed amulet of rage V - a ring of protection from magic (right hand) Potions k - 2 potions of restore abilities p - 4 potions of curing K - 4 potions of might Q - 2 potions of brilliance T - 2 potions of resistance Y - a potion of magic Books m - a book of Wizardry Spells Type Level Summon Elemental Summoning 4 Agony Necromancy 5 Force Lance Conjuration 5 Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5 Haste Charms 6 Invisibility Hexes 6 Miscellaneous i - a stone of tremors P - a fan of gales Rods a - a +6 lightning rod (16/16) (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) Skills: - Level 7.0 Fighting + Level 12.0 Short Blades - Level 7.1 Dodging O Level 27 Stealth - Level 7.1 Shields - Level 3.2 Unarmed Combat - Level 2.0 Spellcasting - Level 2.0 Conjurations - Level 3.7 Hexes - Level 2.0 Summonings - Level 2.0 Transmutations - Level 6.0 Earth Magic - Level 1.0 Invocations You had 8 spell levels left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Summon Butterflies Summ #....... 12% 1 ##..... b - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex #....... 30% 3 ####... c - Passwall Trmt/Erth ##........ 17% 3 ####... d - Dig Erth ###..... 24% 4 #####.. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (10/16) Temple (1/1) D:4 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (3/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:8 Snake (0/5) Lair:6 Spider (0/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Shops: D:5 (/! D:8 /[ D:10 ( Orc:2 % Orc:3 * Orc:4 =*[( Elf:3 % Shoals:1 ( Annotations: Abyss:1 Donald Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You have a slow metabolism. You have a pair of small horns on your head. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. Your mind is acute. (Int +2) You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). Message History You swap places. You swap places. You block the deep elf blademaster's attack. The deep elf blademaster hits you with an elven cutlass! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You swap places. The deep elf blademaster hits your butterfly with an elven cutlass! Your butterfly dies! The deep elf blademaster hits your butterfly with an elven cutlass! Your butterfly dies! Zapping: M - a wand of lightning {zapped: 5} Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - deep elf blademaster Aim: a deep elf blademaster, wielding two elven cutlasses and wearing an elven leather armour (severely wounded, umbra) You hear a mighty clap of thunder! The bolt of lightning misses the deep elf blademaster. The deep elf blademaster hits you with an elven cutlass! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You emit a cloud of dark smoke. The deep elf blademaster hits you with an elven cutlass! 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Vanquished Creatures Nikola (Elf:2) Rupert (Lair:6) A deep elf sorcerer (Elf:3) Gastronok (Lair:3) A deep elf demonologist (Elf:3) Snorg (Lair:3) 3 hydras A fire dragon (Lair:8) A merfolk aquamancer (Shoals:1) A deep elf high priest (Elf:3) Fannar (Lair:1) The ghost of Falco the Imperceptible, a powerful HaMo of Dithmenos (Lair:4) 3 orc high priests 3 death yaks 5 deep elf knights Nergalle (Lair:3) A sea snake (Shoals:1) 4 deep elf summoners A lindwurm (Volcano) 3 orc knights Pikel (D:6) A griffon (Lair:2) Joseph (D:8) 2 hill giants (D:10) A wolf spider (Lair:4) 5 deep elf conjurers 3 harpies (Shoals:1) 7 orc sorcerers (Orc:4) An octopode (Shoals:1) A manticore (Volcano) Maurice (D:8) 21 elephants 4 black mambas 4 spiny frogs 7 fauns (Shoals:1) 5 fire drakes 3 wandering mushrooms (Lair:5) Grinder (D:5) A raiju (Lair:8) 2 merfolk (Shoals:1) 5 polar bears (Lair:8) 9 blink frogs A troll (Orc:1) 3 komodo dragons 4 deep elf priests A queen bee (Lair:5) A mermaid (Shoals:1) 9 grizzly bears (Lair:8) A tarantella (Elf:2) 3 basilisks A snapping turtle (Shoals:1) A wyvern (Lair:7) 2 sharks 4 water elementals (Shoals:1) 12 deep elf magi 3 steam dragons (Lair:8) Eustachio (D:8) 10 fire bats (Volcano) 4 formicids (Lair:2) Grum (D:9) A clay golem (Volcano) 4 nagas (Lair:6) 7 hippogriffs 7 yaks A neqoxec (Orc:4) 10 deep elf fighters 16 wolves 3 mottled dragons (Lair:8) A sky beast (D:6) 8 porcupines 9 black bears 3 hell hounds (Lair:8) A swamp drake (Lair:1) A yellow wasp (D:10) 3 phantoms 29 orc warriors A giant goldfish (Lair:2) A boring beetle (Lair:6) An ice beast (D:7) 19 ogres 2 centaurs 15 crocodiles 7 wargs Sigmund (D:6) A lava worm (Volcano) 4 giant slugs A komodo dragon zombie (D:7) Blork the orc (D:6) 8 water moccasins 11 agate snails 18 giant frogs 29 killer bees 2 wights (D:7) 2 jellyfish (Lair:5) A troll skeleton (D:9) 4 crimson imps 2 electric eels 2 goliath beetles (D:7) A jelly (D:10) 45 orc wizards 20 hounds 32 orc priests A jelly (shapeshifter) (Elf:2) 2 big fish A scorpion (D:9) 10 iguanas 5 worker ants 9 sheep An ogre skeleton (D:8) 12 gnolls 65 green rats A worker ant zombie (D:9) 18 adders 2 giant centipedes 2 giant mites An inept feature mimic (D:6) 6 worms 5 orc zombies (Orc:4) An adder skeleton (D:4) An adder zombie (D:5) An iguana skeleton (D:4) A giant eyeball (D:4) 9 giant geckos 2 oozes 194 orcs 24 bats 11 giant cockroaches 25 goblins 22 hobgoblins 38 jackals 19 kobolds 9 quokkas A ball python (D:2) 5 giant newts A goblin zombie (Orc:4) 22 rats A rat skeleton (D:5) A ballistomycete (D:9) A butterfly (Lair:3) 6 fungi 8 plants 1062 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Harold (Lair:4) A water nymph (Shoals:1) A spiny frog (Lair:1) A mermaid (Shoals:1) An iguana (Lair:4) An adder (Lair:4) A quokka (Lair:4) 7 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) An orc high priest (Orc:4) A sun demon (Orc:4) An orc knight (Orc:4) An iron devil (Orc:4) A deep elf mage (Elf:2) Menkaure (D:6) A slave (D:6) 6 orc warriors A giant frog (Lair:1) 2 orc priests (Orc:3) 3 orc wizards A giant gecko (D:6) 3 orcs A goblin (Orc:2) 2 briar patches (D:9) 49 butterflies 28 fungi 26 plants 129 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1198 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Falco, the Halfling Monk, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 15/15 MP: 1/1 142 | D:3 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 193 | D:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth 193 | D:3 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/20 MP: 2/2 393 | D:4 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/25 MP: 3/3 542 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 668 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 678 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 713 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos 713 | Temple | Acquired Dithmenos' first power 779 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 1064 | D:1 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 20/30 MP: 4/4 1214 | D:1 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 2035 | D:2 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 2035 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 2759 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/35 MP: 5/5 2875 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 2920 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2940 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2940 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 2940 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 6/6 3011 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 3509 | D:3 | Noticed a crimson imp 3512 | D:3 | Killed a crimson imp 4211 | D:3 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 39/45 MP: 7/7 4589 | D:4 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 4594 | D:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 4820 | D:4 | Killed a phantom 4829 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4886 | D:5 | Got a blackened mace 4887 | D:5 | Identified the +7,-1 mace "Ohunuari" {crush, rC+ Dex+3 SInv} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 4898 | D:5 | Found Ecisch's Distillery. 4909 | D:5 | Bought a potion of mutation for 45 gold pieces 4910 | D:5 | Gained mutation: You have supernaturally acute eyesight. [potion of mutation] 4952 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 4972 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 4972 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 4972 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/51 MP: 8/8 5346 | D:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 5488 | D:5 | Found Enil's Magical Wand Boutique. 5501 | D:5 | Found Shuoqiaq's Weapon Boutique. 5583 | D:5 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 5753 | D:6 | Noticed Sigmund 5759 | D:6 | Killed Sigmund 5839 | D:6 | Acquired Dithmenos' second power 5982 | D:6 | Noticed Blork the orc 6164 | D:5 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 6311 | D:6 | Noticed Pikel 6322 | D:6 | Killed Pikel 6322 | D:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 6322 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 9/9 6328 | D:6 | Identified a +0 rod of fiery destruction (12/12) (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon) 6543 | D:6 | Killed Blork the orc 6543 | D:6 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 6842 | D:6 | Noticed Menkaure 7188 | D:6 | Killed Menkaure 7687 | D:7 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth 7960 | D:7 | Gained mutation: You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). [potion of mutation] 8099 | D:8 | Noticed Joseph 8104 | D:8 | Killed Joseph 8104 | D:8 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth 8104 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 52/61 MP: 11/11 8105 | D:8 | Found Tonasch Greuts' Magical Wand Emporium. 8156 | D:8 | Noticed Eustachio 8162 | D:8 | Found Phuss' Armour Shoppe. 8455 | D:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall 8619 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 8739 | D:7 | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth 9109 | D:8 | Killed Eustachio 9157 | D:8 | Noticed Maurice 9167 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9168 | D:8 | Noticed a komodo dragon 9170 | D:8 | Killed Maurice 9697 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 9831 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 9862 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 9862 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 9936 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 9944 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 9967 | Lair:1 | Acquired Dithmenos' third power 10096 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 57/66 MP: 12/12 10162 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 10236 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 10258 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 11172 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray 11768 | Lair:2 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 11857 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 12082 | Lair:2 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12749 | Lair:3 | Noticed Snorg 12755 | Lair:3 | Killed Snorg 12755 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 12932 | Lair:3 | Noticed Nergalle 12957 | Lair:3 | Killed Nergalle 13085 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 53/72 MP: 13/13 13092 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 13501 | Lair:2 | Noticed a griffon 13575 | Lair:3 | Noticed Gastronok 14102 | Lair:3 | Killed Gastronok 14342 | Lair:3 | Got a twisted spear 14343 | Lair:3 | Identified the +6,+7 spear "Waisch" {freeze, rElec rF+} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 14377 | Lair:4 | Noticed Harold 14452 | Lair:4 | Acquired Dithmenos' fourth power 14535 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 14625 | Lair:4 | Found a dark tunnel. 14664 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of beneficial mutation] 14681 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 14932 | Volcano | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 14944 | Volcano | Reached skill level 24 in Stealth 15632 | Lair:4 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 15640 | Lair:4 | Killed a four-headed hydra 15640 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 76/76 MP: 14/14 15668 | Lair:4 | Killed Harold 15668 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 25 in Stealth 15679 | Lair:4 | Noticed Falco's ghost (powerful HaMo) 15719 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 16770 | Lair:4 | Killed Falco's ghost 16958 | D:8 | Killed a komodo dragon 17490 | Lair:5 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of beneficial mutation] 17714 | Lair:6 | Noticed Rupert 18004 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 26 in Stealth 18817 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 18861 | Lair:6 | Killed Rupert 19545 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 20183 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 27 in Stealth 20295 | Lair:7 | Got a brightly glowing ring mail 20333 | Lair:7 | Identified the +1 ring mail of Khugaik {Str+2 Int+4} (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts) 20467 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Hexes 20467 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic 20467 | Lair:7 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 61/81 MP: 17/17 20555 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings 20555 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations 20713 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 20713 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting 20713 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 20987 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 21130 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 21192 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 24413 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 24784 | Lair:8 | Got a glittering granite ring 25078 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 25466 | Lair:8 | Identified the ring of the Fool {Contam +Fly} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 25487 | Lair:8 | Got a pair of faintly glowing boots 25503 | Lair:8 | Identified the +0 pair of boots "Ejaod" {rN+} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 26332 | Lair:2 | Killed a griffon 26377 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals 27289 | Shoals:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 45/86 MP: 4/20 27637 | Shoals:1 | Found Fioniess' Antique Weapon Shop. 27666 | Shoals:1 | Bought a runed dagger for 70 gold pieces 28995 | D:9 | Noticed a thorn hunter 28995 | D:9 | an oklob plant changed into a thorn hunter 28999 | D:9 | Noticed Grum 29029 | D:9 | Killed Grum 29404 | D:9 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 29741 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 29741 | D:10 | Found Jaca Tho's Antique Weapon Shoppe. 30092 | D:10 | Bought an ichor-stained short sword for 237 gold pieces 30093 | D:10 | Identified the +6,+6 short sword of World's End {distort, +Inv rElec} (You bought it in a shop on level 10 of the Dungeon) 30380 | D:9 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 30601 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 30813 | D:9 | Learned a level 4 spell: Dig 30814 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 30929 | Orc:1 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 31488 | Orc:3 | Found Ucsatoum's Assorted Antiques. 31505 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 32042 | Orc:2 | Found Sogiypi's Food Emporium. 33124 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 33742 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations 33868 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 33953 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc warlord 34338 | Orc:4 | Noticed Donald 35031 | Orc:4 | Found Seoshrice's Antique Armour Shop. 35032 | Orc:4 | Found Cley's Antique Weapon Boutique. 35033 | Orc:4 | Found Daefris' General Store. 35033 | Orc:4 | Found Boeqaklatt's Jewellery Shop. 35038 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of magic for 98 gold pieces 35049 | Orc:4 | Bought a transparent scale mail for 385 gold pieces 35059 | Orc:4 | Identified the cursed -7 scale mail of Domimanu {Str+3 Dex+3 Int-3} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) 35403 | Orc:4 | Banished an orc warlord 36003 | Orc:4 | Banished Donald 36003 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 36319 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls 36330 | Elf:1 | Got a smelly ring mail 36339 | Elf:1 | Identified the +3 ring mail of Light {Dex+4 Int+2} (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls) 36913 | Elf:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 99/101 MP: 23/23 37533 | Elf:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls 38017 | Elf:3 | Found Kerhipp's Food Shoppe. 38042 | Elf:2 | Noticed Nikola 38049 | Elf:2 | Killed Nikola 38363 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic 38709 | Elf:3 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 38786 | Elf:3 | Noticed a Hell Sentinel 38978 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf master archer 38980 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf blademaster 39017 | Elf:3 | Slain by a deep elf blademaster Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 66 | 127 | 16 | 21 | | || 230 Dagger | 8 | 91 | 209 | 409 | 584 | 99 || 1400 Spear | | 9 | | 34 | 856 | || 899 Whip | | | | 408 | 95 | || 503 Rod | | | | 29 | 6 | || 35 Short sword | | | | | 845 | 1 || 846 Cutlass | | | | | | 49 || 49 Fire: Sling | | 31 | 116 | 5 | | || 152 Bow | | | 74 | | | || 74 Blowgun | | | 19 | 43 | 6 | || 68 Throw: Dart | 2 | | 3 | | | || 5 Throwing net | | | | | 21 | 1 || 22 Cast: Passwall | | | | 4 | 8 | 7 || 19 Summon Butterflie | | | | | 18 | 7 || 25 Dazzling Spray | | | | | | 2 || 2 Invok: Shadow Form | | | | | 1 | || 1 Evoke: Wand | | | 29 | 3 | 33 | 10 || 75 Rod | | | | 14 | 21 | 4 || 39 Fan of gales | | | | 1 | 2 | || 3 Stone of tremors | | | | | 1 | || 1 Use: Potion | | | 5 | 8 | 14 | 6 || 33 Scroll | | | 18 | 17 | 15 | 5 || 55 Stab: Sleeping | 4 | 22 | 32 | 112 | 213 | 11 || 394 Distracted | | 1 | 1 | 6 | 68 | 5 || 81 Confused | | | | 1 | | || 1 Held in net/web | | | | | 6 | || 6 Fleeing | | | | | 2 | || 2

Is there a way to make dumps without long item descriptions?

Friday, 14th February 2014, 13:27 by Amnesiac

Ok, I think I've had enough, so this is my last post in this thread, unless I want to reply to someone.

You can notice how I increased my count of distraction stabs - 81 of 474 stabs it was just 9 of 192. This is because I had found it fun to hunt wandering monsters. It's fun to have a bit of the luck factor.

Now I'm not sure about this, but it seems that you need to move in some pattern trying to avoid stepping on the tile where a monster wants to move next, can someone confirm this?

Next time I'd like to try having 100% rate and running from what I can't stab, unless my path gets blocked and I can't escape.

Friday, 14th February 2014, 13:55 by twelwe

yep, stabbing still works

Saturday, 15th February 2014, 06:54 by Yermak

Amnesiac wrote:Now I'm not sure about this, but it seems that you need to move in some pattern trying to avoid stepping on the tile where a monster wants to move next, can someone confirm this?

Spriggan master confirms. If on the moment it is monster turn to move, you are on the tile it would otherwise has moved on, it will notice you.

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