How do you pronounce the hardest words & names in Crawl?


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Post Tuesday, 3rd April 2012, 19:10

How do you pronounce the hardest words & names in Crawl?

Like "neqoxec", "ynoxinul", "Yredelemnul" and "Kikubaaqudgha"?

Mine are "некокзцек / некокcек / нэкокцек" {nekokztsek / nekoksek / naekoktsek},
йноксинюл / йнокцинюл / йнокцинул {y-noxi-njul / y-nok-stsinool - y-noktsi-nool},
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MyOtheHedgeFox wrote:Like "neqoxec", "ynoxinul", "Yredelemnul" and "Kikubaaqudgha"?


Just like they're spelled.

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Post Tuesday, 3rd April 2012, 19:27

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That is the freaking rocket-jumping double-flipping Xom-enraging Trog-arousing problem, dagnabbit! How to read this ridden ankus-beaten wand-affected quokka-destroyed Fedhas-recycled spelling?!

I don't know how should I read this spelling, knowing the exceptional nature of English pronunciation and the possibility of a foreign word put in these words.
Understanding how you, people, are inclined to pronounce this words might help people to translate them into languages that are not based on Latin alphabet.

Please, guys. I am not as experienced in English as you are, and perhaps there is a quirk I do not yet know about that helps to turn this ghoti into fish.
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Post Tuesday, 3rd April 2012, 19:30

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There's a really old thread somewhere about Kiku pronunciations.

I always pronounced it "kee-koo-aaa-ga-bud-ga" until I actually stopped and looked at all the letters. It's still kind of like that in my head.

The others are obvious ;)
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"Neqoxec" buggs me the most.
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Post Tuesday, 3rd April 2012, 19:35

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It just occurred to me that maybe the 'x' in those names is supposed to be the 'click' consonant used in e.g. the South African Khoisan languages - it's often denoted by an X.

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MyOtheHedgeFox wrote:That is the freaking rocket-jumping double-flipping Xom-enraging Trog-arousing problem, dagnabbit! How to read this ridden ankus-beaten wand-affected quokka-destroyed Fedhas-recycled spelling?!


I was joking! The joke is the names aren't actually spelled very clearly.

As for me:
ne-KOX-ek
ee-NOX-in-nool
EE-red-ell-EM-nool
KEE-koo-bah-KOOD-guh

I don't put many non-English sounds in there, though you could probably throw some guttural consonants into the back half of Kikubaaqudgha.
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Post Tuesday, 3rd April 2012, 19:48

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mumra wrote:It just occurred to me that maybe the 'x' in those names is supposed to be the 'click' consonant used in e.g. the South African Khoisan languages - it's often denoted by an X.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Posta ... _click.ogg looks like it.
ǃ alveolar - q


Edit: ehm, wrong one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alveo ... _click.ogg
ǁ lateral - x


They sound similar, though...

And maybe we are just overelaborating this. It could be like that accent symbol in "Do`Urden"-like "dark elf" names.
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MyOtheHedgeFox wrote:And maybe we are just overelaborating this. It could be like that accent symbol in "Do`Urden"-like "dark elf" names.


Pretty much, it's just letters thrown together to look Menacing and Alien. You can probably pronounce it anyway you like, really, it's not like anyone plays on CDO over voicechat.
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MyOtheHedgeFox wrote:Like "neqoxec", "ynoxinul", "Yredelemnul" and "Kikubaaqudgha"?


Here's how I do it

neqoxec

Neh - quo - zekk (where quo is pronounced as in "status quo")

ynoxinul

Why - knocks - eh - null (I prefer a non-silent 'y')
alternately
Knocks - a - null
(minoxidil, lol)

Yredelemnul

Red - ell - emm - null (y is definitely silent to me here)
alternately
Why - Red - ell - emm - null, what big teeth you have.

Kikubaaqudgha

Kick - koo - baa - cud - hah

- - -

Then-again, there is no reason to pronounce any of these since we all handle our communication via text.
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Post Tuesday, 3rd April 2012, 20:42

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"neqoxec", "ynoxinul", "Yredelemnul" and "Kikubaaqudgha"?
Nec-o-ecs, ya-no-iXul, yred-el-men-oOl, kiku-BAA-cudg-a is how I pronounce all those names.
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Post Tuesday, 3rd April 2012, 21:11

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neh-KO-chek
EEN-ox-ee-null
EAR-edd-ill-EMM-null
KEY-koo-baa-KOOD-gaa

also ghoti becomes fish like so:
gh - rough
o - women
ti - action
Quite silly, really.
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Post Tuesday, 3rd April 2012, 21:20

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neqoxec - That thing

ynoxinul - That other thing

Yredelemnul - Yured

Kikubaaqudgha - Keekoo
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Post Wednesday, 4th April 2012, 06:39

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How I pronounce them

neqoxec: nae-ko-xaek
ynoxinul: ee-no-xee-nul
yredelemnul: ee-rae-dae-laem-nul
kikubaaqudgha: kee-koo-ba-a-kood-ga
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Post Wednesday, 4th April 2012, 09:30

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Personally:

neqoxec

Neck-wo-zekk

Or more commonly "One of those mutating Little S**ts! Kill it! Kill it now!" :shock:
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ynoxinul

"Knocks-a-gnoll" :D
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Yredelemnul

"Yuu-Reed-Del-Lem-Nul"

But more often, "Yu-Reed", or, "That Undead Lady".

I know Crawl gods are genderless, but I'm always recalling my own D&D setting's awesome undead goddess, Kanestus. Who did indeed try to give the party a Bone Dragon, once. And a numpty of a player sacrificed a phoenix to her, creating the horror that was the undead coldfire phoenix. :lol:
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Kikubaaqudgha

"Kee-Kuu-Baa-Could-Gaa!"

But most of the time, just "Kee-Koo". Like "Lee-Loo" from the Fifth Element.
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I'm guessing that, when the letters are typed by allowing your cat to walk across the keyboard, you end up with alot of grammatical arguments. :D
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Fix the topic title, space cowboy.

Also:
neqoxec - несосёк - neigh-so-sir-k - alternatively "mutagenic-Davey-Jones-brain-eater-pinky-thingy";
ynoxinul - иноксисул - ear-noke-sees-ool - alternatively "ufebetubusatotator" (the spare "at" intentional);
Yredelemnul - Ырйедемнул - Iir-yeah'd-erm-null - alternatively "crrydablcktrchplz"
Kikubaaqudgha - Кикабудхадха - Key-car-bood-hard-har - alternatively "The Apotheosis of War god"
Because spelling is for non-Xom followers.

EDIT: I like it how EVERYONE has to fix their posts to correlate with the topic title.

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MyOtheHedgeFox wrote:That is the freaking rocket-jumping double-flipping Xom-enraging Trog-arousing problem, dagnabbit! How to read this ridden ankus-beaten wand-affected quokka-destroyed Fedhas-recycled spelling?!


You swear beautifully :)

These words were designed to look alien and menacing, so the obvious pronunciation is not clear to native English speakers. You can see that different people have come up with different alternatives. To add to that, some of us get lazy (cough), so for me, "Yredelemnul" ends up being "Yed-rel-em-nul" which is clearly not right. My mind transposes the "r" and puts it somewhere easier.

neqoxec: ne-kok-ksek
ynoxinul: ya-nocks-ih-nul (i as in if, u as in gun)
kikubaaqudgha: kee-koo-ba-kuh-da (oo as in you, uh as in the exclamation "huh")

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Because sixfirhy has Word-of-God behind it saying that it was generated by a cat on a keyboard (linky), it is pronounced "GET OFFA THERE".
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I just pronounce them all as "throat warbler mangrove". Problem solved.

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Stormfox wrote:Because sixfirhy has Word-of-God behind it saying that it was generated by a cat on a keyboard (linky), it is pronounced "GET OFFA THERE".


I always think "six thirty" like 6:30 when I see those little electric demons

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Yredelemnul: Üre-de-lem-nul
Kikubaquadgha: Ki-ku-ba-quad-gha
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Why would I pronounce them? It's a text only game, I don't need to talk.

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varsovie wrote:Why would I pronounce them? It's a text only game, I don't need to talk.


Well, because maybe you don't spend all your time behind computers? You may talk to people irl? About this game? This is all theoretical of course, I never do any of those things.

I never bothered to learn the names properly myself:

Yredelemnul: Ee-drem-nool
Kikubaquadgha: Kee-koo-bah-koo-da
Neqoxec: Nek-so-kek adn also wtf am I doing here omg omg I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die, I'm dead

Good to know I'm not the only one who can't be bothered to actually translate words into sounds.


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Neqoxec: Nek-wo-sek
Ynoxinul: Yin-ox-ee-null
Yredelemnul: Yer-red-dell-em-null
Kikubaaqudgha: Kee-koo-ba-a-kud-ga
Sixfirhy: Six-fear-hee
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