Dith's shadow mimic doesn't seem to distract the enemy.


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Post Saturday, 11th May 2019, 16:03

Dith's shadow mimic doesn't seem to distract the enemy.

I experimented with a sprint(|||||) in three versions, 0.16, 0.21, 0.23. faithing Dith, I measured the type and frequency of the stab. The weapon used in the experiment is a rapier. And the result was quite perplexed. No distract occurred in all three versions until orb was obtained. Not once. I understand that the main reason for the existence of mimic is to generate the distract. The results of the experiment mean that mimic is not doing that job properly. It's possible that I made the wrong judgment, so I hope others will experiment. I hope my experiment is wrong. :(

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Post Sunday, 12th May 2019, 14:40

Re: Dith's shadow mimic doesn't seem to distract the enemy.

As I understand it, Dith's shadow mimic isn't meant to distract the enemy. It mimics your attacks/spells sometimes, so you basically get extra attacks/casts, but it doesn't give you any defensive benefit.

So unless I missed the ability recently being changed (which is possible), your experiments are showing it doing exactly what it should, and not distracting the enemy.

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Post Sunday, 12th May 2019, 15:12

Re: Dith's shadow mimic doesn't seem to distract the enemy.

It's even more strange if the purpose of the mimic is not to create distractions. Mimic is helpful enough when using magic. But when using melee, launcher, and throwing, the damage to mimic is terrible. Low hit rate, Half of them are no damage even if they are hit. 2 to 3 times are damaged from 1 to 6, 2 times are damaged from 7 to 17.
It does not help much to increase damage.

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Post Sunday, 12th May 2019, 19:41

Re: Dith's shadow mimic doesn't seem to distract the enemy.

The shadow ranged or melee attack use a base type of weapon, probably with +0 enchantment and no consideration of player skill.

So it is very good with 2h and very bad with bad 1h.

Large rock or longbow/xbow shadow mimic is extremely good, for example
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Post Sunday, 12th May 2019, 21:46

Re: Dith's shadow mimic doesn't seem to distract the enemy.

Shadow mimic also uses monster code to attack, and these are different from player codes. Some spells for example deal different damage: stone arrow used to be strong. Throwing used to be very good with Dith, because monster throwing is strong. Not sure what is the current state for these though, I haven't played Dith in a while.

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Post Monday, 13th May 2019, 14:55

Re: Dith's shadow mimic doesn't seem to distract the enemy.

sanka wrote:Shadow mimic also uses monster code to attack, and these are different from player codes. Some spells for example deal different damage: stone arrow used to be strong. Throwing used to be very good with Dith, because monster throwing is strong. Not sure what is the current state for these though, I haven't played Dith in a while.

Shadow mimic uses two unique spells to mimic conjurations; shadow shard and shadow bolt. Damage is a function of spell level and spell power.

The damage formula of the spell you're casting is irrelevant.
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Post Monday, 13th May 2019, 19:40

Re: Dith's shadow mimic doesn't seem to distract the enemy.

Shadow mimic also mimics Hexes and Dispel Undead (very nice).
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Post Tuesday, 14th May 2019, 10:16

Re: Dith's shadow mimic doesn't seem to distract the enemy.

yeah it's very nice when your hex fails but your shadow buddy helps you.
screw it I hate this character I'm gonna go melee Gastronok

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Post Tuesday, 14th May 2019, 15:14

Re: Dith's shadow mimic doesn't seem to distract the enemy.

shadow mimic's magic is good. Yes, that one. What I think is weak is launcher and melee(especially).

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