Re: Edit: Debunking that SH is less useful with higher EV
Posted: Tuesday, 31st July 2018, 16:52
No sieghurt, I understand his point that when defences are high, it might be better to train offence; there is no disagreement there as we all agree on this point, but that's just him moving the goalpost.
Unfortunately, that wasn't what he was arguing for in the first place:
He only argued what you have written after he argued to use absolute numbers and was proved wrong.
Then he ran some fsim and was proved wrong.
Then he changed the metric to defence to 1hp condition, to being invincible, to turns and all sorts of funny metrics.
Then he argued the above, which was not what he was arguing for in the first place, otherwise he wouldn't had written his nonsensical maths.
And now he is quibbling over the word "training", even though it matters not a single jot whether the EV or SH is obtained through training or equipment.
The results are the same. If you ever need to decide to improve defences, the usefulness of SH, is entirely independent of your EV value.
Your EV value doesn't matter, just as much as if you ever want to improve offence, it doesn't innately matter what your fighting skill is to the usefulness of your weapon skill, or fighting skill to the weapon choice.
(except the difference in exp needed for gains in skill lvl but lets ignore that or opportunity cost of equipment swappage but lets ignore that.)
It would also be irrelevant that you have a high offence and may choose to raise defence instead, to the usefulness of fighting skill if weapon skill was high or not.
Unfortunately, that wasn't what he was arguing for in the first place:
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He only argued what you have written after he argued to use absolute numbers and was proved wrong.
Then he ran some fsim and was proved wrong.
Then he changed the metric to defence to 1hp condition, to being invincible, to turns and all sorts of funny metrics.
Then he argued the above, which was not what he was arguing for in the first place, otherwise he wouldn't had written his nonsensical maths.
And now he is quibbling over the word "training", even though it matters not a single jot whether the EV or SH is obtained through training or equipment.
The results are the same. If you ever need to decide to improve defences, the usefulness of SH, is entirely independent of your EV value.
Your EV value doesn't matter, just as much as if you ever want to improve offence, it doesn't innately matter what your fighting skill is to the usefulness of your weapon skill, or fighting skill to the weapon choice.
(except the difference in exp needed for gains in skill lvl but lets ignore that or opportunity cost of equipment swappage but lets ignore that.)
It would also be irrelevant that you have a high offence and may choose to raise defence instead, to the usefulness of fighting skill if weapon skill was high or not.