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New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Sunday, 22nd April 2018, 08:24
by Octopode-monk-of-XOM

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Sunday, 22nd April 2018, 14:29
by Vajrapani
Now, that's the 2nd run post-0.17 that has gotten 15-runes in less than 19k turns.

Very interesting run.

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Monday, 23rd April 2018, 00:36
by twelwe
Meanwhile, in other congratulatory news, first place remains exactly where it is

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Monday, 23rd April 2018, 07:17
by Octopode-monk-of-XOM
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indeed, twelwe

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Monday, 23rd April 2018, 21:40
by tasonir
And they could have saved a turn by not picking up that staff of dispater! Although they apparently did use the scepter of asmodeus (twice), which is a surprise to me.

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Wednesday, 25th April 2018, 09:06
by Shtopit
Octopode-monk-of-XOM wrote:Image

indeed, twelwe

What's the story behind this?

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Wednesday, 25th April 2018, 09:12
by Sprucery

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Friday, 27th April 2018, 10:15
by Octopode-monk-of-XOM
meanwhile i also ran another 32:02 deep dwarf rt speedrun !!

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http://www.ultraviolent4.com/speedrunning.html

here'S a human list now, as well as the rest of that guide and video material

SpAcE RaDiAtIoN !!

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Tuesday, 1st May 2018, 22:15
by tasonir
I like how that post in 2016 said the incorrect high score would go away soon when the scores were rebuilt. Here's hoping they rebuild those soon :P

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Tuesday, 1st May 2018, 23:07
by Octopode-monk-of-XOM
nvm

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Sunday, 6th May 2018, 00:21
by tabstorm
can we accept that statue form is good yet

also, how do I get 500-turn Hell:1-7's? anyone have any tips

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Thursday, 10th May 2018, 00:35
by tasonir
tabstorm wrote:also, how do I get 500-turn Hell:1-7's? anyone have any tips

Repeat your speedrun 15 times until you do. But honestly if you just run straight across a floor it probably only takes about 60 steps or so to run from the left to the right, which gives you a 13-tile tall line across which should contain a stairs down about half the time I'd guess. This is assuming there's a relatively open layout which lets you run straight across - of course layouts with lots of walls/maze areas will take longer. But I'd argue most fairly open floors can be crossed in about 50-100 turns, x6 = 450 turns. So it isn't unreasonable that you could go down this fast, but 1) bad layouts and 2) fighting monsters slow it down. Obviously if you have extra magic mapping, use them, but you probably aren't going to have 20 mapping scrolls.

I mean I know for a fact you've got faster speed runs than I do, but even I've done some very fast decents:

  Code:
 33744 | Tar:1    | Entered Level 1 of Tartarus
 34743 | Tar:7    | Entered Level 7 of Tartarus
 35340 | Geh:1    | Entered Level 1 of Gehenna
 35644 | Geh:7    | Entered Level 7 of Gehenna
 36068 | Dis:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Iron City of Dis
 36493 | Dis:7    | Entered Level 7 of the Iron City of Dis
 36910 | Coc:1    | Entered Level 1 of Cocytus
 37741 | Coc:7    | Entered Level 7 of Cocytus


So at a fairly slow 40k turn speedrun, I did tartus in 999 (very bad), Gehenna in 304 (nice), dis in 425 (good), and cocytus in 831 (bad). I'd say 500 is an average you should be expecting, not really an impressive pace. With good luck you could be looking at 300 turns or possibly even less.

Re: New 2nd place All-time Hiscore by tlatlagkaus VsFi-chei

PostPosted: Thursday, 10th May 2018, 18:22
by tasonir
Probably also helpful to mention that they used passage ~800 times, and evoked a staff of energy ~100 times. Passage was spread out through the later half of the game, where energy was mostly just at the end, so was probably used to speed up extended mostly, where they wanted to just repeatedly cast passage and not walk. Or maybe they just didn't find the staff until late in the run. That's about the only 'trick' I can see, luck remains important.