New 2nd all-time highscore - 18,975 turns by tidbits


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Post Monday, 22nd January 2018, 18:42

New 2nd all-time highscore - 18,975 turns by tidbits

The 2nd all time highscore has just been achieved by tidbits with a GnNe that scored a whopping 75 million points, after getting 15-runes in 18,975 turns!

This is a particularly amazing achievement as it nearly touches upon the #1 highscore, Charly's VSMo, while having no controlled teleport at all!

It is also only the 2nd crawl game in history to be under 19k turns while having collected 15-runes. I think this this definitively proves that world-record speedruns can be done in the newer versions as well as in 0.17 and earlier.

The run could have been even faster than this breakneck speed, but the MR++ on this GnNe proved to be costly as tidbits was abyssed on the orbrun and had to frantically search for an exit. This still didn't stop the run from being under 19k turns, and establishes Gnolls as the prime speedrun race in 0.21 and beyond.

The Necromancer start in 0.21 has Borgnjor's Vile Clutch as a starting spell which allowed tidbits to demolish most earlygame challenges to him, and the Robes of Vines + Cheibriados allowed for very fast regen, I recall it being 7 HP/turn at one point, which is an important factor in acquiring a world record speedrun such as this one.

However, the most important factor in this was tidbits' measured and patient play in acquiring the 15-runes as efficiently as possible. There were a lot of situations in that game(like the Lom Lobon fight,Tomb or the orbrun.) where I simply would have died.
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Post Monday, 22nd January 2018, 19:02

Re: New 2nd all-time highscore - 18,975 turns by tidbits

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nice meme done by ARKORAX, picturing the importance of robe of vines for this run
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Post Monday, 22nd January 2018, 19:02

Re: New 2nd all-time highscore - 18,975 turns by tidbits

EDIT: oops, double posted the meme image.
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Post Monday, 22nd January 2018, 20:23

Re: New 2nd all-time highscore - 18,975 turns by tidbits

So what you're saying is that when speedrunning, either be made of vines, or wear vines? :) Impressive run, I'm not entirely sure gnolls are the new speed run meta, but it certainly is a possibility.

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Post Monday, 22nd January 2018, 20:39

Re: New 2nd all-time highscore - 18,975 turns by tidbits

Damn this looks impressive. I've only started becoming interested in turncount speedrunning during this tournament and I see majority of better players doing Gnoll speedruns. While I know the basics about how Chei is ironically well-suited for turncount and how people abuse Passage of Golubria, playing Gnolls is smth I can't quickly wrap my head about. I doubt it's just the fact that Gnolls can make good use of anything tha game throws at them so you don't get short on items due to diving? Could someone explain?
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Post Monday, 22nd January 2018, 20:41

Re: New 2nd all-time highscore - 18,975 turns by tidbits

[15:25] <Chish> !lg tidbits max=score -ttyrec
[15:25] <Sequell> 2259. tidbits, XL27 GnNe, T:18975: http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/ttyrec/tidbits/ 2018-01-05.18:23:12.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-05.20:00:11.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.03:33:08.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.03:41:25.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.03:41:40.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.03:46:02.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.03:46:10.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.04:05:11.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.04:19:18.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.04:19:24.ttyrec.bz2

... 6 groups the same size as that one...

15:25] <Sequell> 2018-01-06.19:04:19.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:20:55.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:21:01.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:22:54.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:46:20.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:47:16.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:53:55.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.20:02:29.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.20:07:32.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.20:15:04.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.20:21:32.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.20:27:58.ttyrec.bz2 2018-0...


It took so many sessions that Sequell can't even deliver a full list of all the ttyrecs. I guess part of cutting time is doing all your thinking outside of the actual game? I'd like to watch this game (offline, so I can actually pause it. There's no way I'm watching all ten hours of it in a row.)-- is anyone able to combine all the relevant ttyrecs and reupload it somewhere?

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Post Tuesday, 23rd January 2018, 02:00

Re: New 2nd all-time highscore - 18,975 turns by tidbits

Chish wrote:
[15:25] <Chish> !lg tidbits max=score -ttyrec
[15:25] <Sequell> 2259. tidbits, XL27 GnNe, T:18975: http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/ttyrec/tidbits/ 2018-01-05.18:23:12.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-05.20:00:11.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.03:33:08.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.03:41:25.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.03:41:40.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.03:46:02.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.03:46:10.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.04:05:11.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.04:19:18.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.04:19:24.ttyrec.bz2

... 6 groups the same size as that one...

15:25] <Sequell> 2018-01-06.19:04:19.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:20:55.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:21:01.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:22:54.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:46:20.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:47:16.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.19:53:55.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.20:02:29.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.20:07:32.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.20:15:04.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.20:21:32.ttyrec.bz2 2018-01-06.20:27:58.ttyrec.bz2 2018-0...


It took so many sessions that Sequell can't even deliver a full list of all the ttyrecs. I guess part of cutting time is doing all your thinking outside of the actual game? I'd like to watch this game (offline, so I can actually pause it. There's no way I'm watching all ten hours of it in a row.)-- is anyone able to combine all the relevant ttyrecs and reupload it somewhere?

If I recall correctly (It has been a lot of years, so this might be stretching my recollection some) you should just be able to concatenate the relevant files and play it.
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Post Thursday, 1st February 2018, 02:28

Re: New 2nd all-time highscore - 18,975 turns by tidbits

Surprised you can shave that many turns without spamming teleport. Maybe it's not actually that turn-efficient... Robe of vines is probably the key to the sub-20k turn counts.
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