Tartarus Sorceror
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Thursday, 17th August 2017, 18:13
A Magic God That Actually Helps
Tavern Wisdom ™ is that Vehumet and Sif Muna are both weak gods. Minmay’s recent tier lists and Hellmonk’s god chart in that thread both indicate that they simply don’t do much, and among the plenty of back-and-forth in that thread, none of it was about Veh and Sif. What I’ve gleaned from comments there and elsewhere, and from my own experience, is that these gods just don’t do much. These gods get off to a slow start, so new mages don’t get much help, and their endgame powers don’t give panic buttons or otherwise meet stronger characters’ needs.
Here is an attempt at a god that is genuinely helpful to both early and late game characters.
0*: no new abilities
1*: +MP. Passive. The amount given is a function of Invocations, rewarding lower Invocations quickly and flattening out for higher Invocations.
2*: no new abilities
3*: +Wiz. Passive. The amount given is a function of Invocations, rewarding all levels of Invocations linearly.
4*: no new abilities
5*: +Archmagi and +MPRegen. Active. The amounts given and duration are functions of Invocations, rewarding lower Invocations slowly and trending generously for higher Invocations.
6*: Book Gift: One-time capstone. The player chooses the spell school. The book contains a 2-3 low level spells that don’t appear in the school’s starting book, 3-4 mid-levels spells, a single high-level spell.
Gifts: Spell levels, starting at 4*.
Sif piety gain. Sif wrath, plus losing the gifted spell levels with random forced amnesia on abandonment.
The +MP is similar to Sif’s Divine Energy, but scales to reward high-level characters as well. The +Wiz is borrowed from Veh, and can help any character. The 5* is designed to help high-level characters in tough fights. The capstone is meant to replace book spam with a single very useful book. The spell level gifts are inspired by Sif’s Amnesia but give the player the ability and incentive to branch out into other spell schools without compromising their core spellset.
I’d envision early characters being able to cast more instances of their basic spells in a given fight and to be able to successfully cast their entire starting book sooner. Mid-level characters will be able to access and cast high-level spells sooner. High-level characters will have a large library of varied spells and can turn themselves into devastatingly powerful wizards with good staying power for large fights.
I doubt this is enough to make it a very strong god, but I expect it would be better than what either Veh or Sif are right now.
Here is an attempt at a god that is genuinely helpful to both early and late game characters.
0*: no new abilities
1*: +MP. Passive. The amount given is a function of Invocations, rewarding lower Invocations quickly and flattening out for higher Invocations.
2*: no new abilities
3*: +Wiz. Passive. The amount given is a function of Invocations, rewarding all levels of Invocations linearly.
4*: no new abilities
5*: +Archmagi and +MPRegen. Active. The amounts given and duration are functions of Invocations, rewarding lower Invocations slowly and trending generously for higher Invocations.
6*: Book Gift: One-time capstone. The player chooses the spell school. The book contains a 2-3 low level spells that don’t appear in the school’s starting book, 3-4 mid-levels spells, a single high-level spell.
Gifts: Spell levels, starting at 4*.
Sif piety gain. Sif wrath, plus losing the gifted spell levels with random forced amnesia on abandonment.
The +MP is similar to Sif’s Divine Energy, but scales to reward high-level characters as well. The +Wiz is borrowed from Veh, and can help any character. The 5* is designed to help high-level characters in tough fights. The capstone is meant to replace book spam with a single very useful book. The spell level gifts are inspired by Sif’s Amnesia but give the player the ability and incentive to branch out into other spell schools without compromising their core spellset.
I’d envision early characters being able to cast more instances of their basic spells in a given fight and to be able to successfully cast their entire starting book sooner. Mid-level characters will be able to access and cast high-level spells sooner. High-level characters will have a large library of varied spells and can turn themselves into devastatingly powerful wizards with good staying power for large fights.
I doubt this is enough to make it a very strong god, but I expect it would be better than what either Veh or Sif are right now.
Won (52). Remaining (15): 5 species: Ba, Fe, Mu, Na, Op; 5 Backgrounds: AM, Wr, Su, AE, Ar; 5 gods: Jiyv, newNem, WJC, newSif, newFedh
