Vp proposal: remove bloodless and very thirsty


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Post Tuesday, 14th February 2017, 06:58

Vp proposal: remove bloodless and very thirsty

Remove bloodless and very thirsty, move resistances and other benefits to thirsty/satiated

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Post Tuesday, 14th February 2017, 07:01

Re: Vp proposal: remove bloodless and very thirsty

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Post Tuesday, 14th February 2017, 07:55

Re: Vp proposal: remove bloodless and very thirsty

Vp actually should be simplified though. although it should be taken farther-only 2 states, dead and alive

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Post Tuesday, 14th February 2017, 14:34

Re: Vp proposal: remove bloodless and very thirsty

Vampires seem to have way more resists than is necessary to communicate their theme.
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Post Tuesday, 14th February 2017, 19:30

Re: Vp proposal: remove bloodless and very thirsty

Vampire should have one state: removed

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Post Wednesday, 15th February 2017, 02:32

Re: Vp proposal: remove bloodless and very thirsty

Ultraviolent has a semi relevant long diatribe on the dcss subreddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/ ... amination/
Worth a skim, maybe even a read!
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Post Wednesday, 15th February 2017, 07:28

Re: Vp proposal: remove bloodless and very thirsty

shping wrote:Ultraviolent has a semi relevant long diatribe on the dcss subreddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/ ... amination/
Worth a skim, maybe even a read!


You shouldn't encourage him.

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Post Wednesday, 15th February 2017, 09:51

Re: Vp proposal: remove bloodless and very thirsty

shping wrote:Ultraviolent has a semi relevant long diatribe on the dcss subreddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/ ... amination/
Worth a skim, maybe even a read!

I have played vampires a bit and they are fun in their own way, but unlike other blood levels very thirsty and bloodless are just redundant, you almost never use them deliberately and this no-regen mechanic is annoying. Thirsty is perfect for stabbing (bite heals), satiated is great for careful play (bat form and normal regen), full and above are great for straightforward tabbing. Removal of these two blood levels will fix most of vampire problems such as pitiful extended (spider & tomb also) and inability to fully utilize bloodless benefits (no, waiting for thousands of turns is not a great and easy way to do it)

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