Bring back Stone of Tremors


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Should Stone of Tremors be added back to Crawl?

Poll ended at Saturday, 29th October 2016, 21:37

Yes
6
32%
No
8
42%
Yes, but it should be changed or nerfed
5
26%
 
Total votes : 19

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Post Wednesday, 19th October 2016, 21:37

Bring back Stone of Tremors

This was the best and coolest of the elemental evokables, and I'm not sure why the dev team removed it, except maybe a dislike of fun things.

It did so much:
- destroy existing kill holes
- make new kill holes
- create escape routes
- break into new areas
- damage most enemies on screen (if you use tactics)
- damage your guys on screen (if you don't use tactics)
- sometimes drop enemies to the next floor
- summon fire immune guys to fight on your team

And it did all these things at the same time! How cool is that?
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Post Thursday, 20th October 2016, 01:18

Re: Bring back Stone of Tremors

I think it was a weird effect that encouraged you to kite enemies long distances and do tedious terraforming to get the best use out of it. All of the cool things you could do with a stone of tremors you could do with a dig wand. I wouldn't be against an earth evoker if it had a nice effect.
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Post Thursday, 20th October 2016, 02:03

Re: Bring back Stone of Tremors

i want it back because not having 4 elemental evokers is just Absolutely Fucked Up. i do not want it back as it was though. idea: makes earth elementals in spaces immediately next to you, drags enemies towards you, like an inverse fan of airs. thoughts?
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Post Thursday, 20th October 2016, 02:29

Re: Bring back Stone of Tremors

Basic Idea seems good. Would need reworking because current fan is trash.
I'm with tasonir on this one.
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Post Thursday, 20th October 2016, 02:57

Re: Bring back Stone of Tremors

Arrhythmia wrote:i want it back because not having 4 elemental evokers is just Absolutely Fucked Up. i do not want it back as it was though. idea: makes earth elementals in spaces immediately next to you, drags enemies towards you, like an inverse fan of airs. thoughts?


So you create a giant pothole and everything falls into it? I like this.
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Post Thursday, 20th October 2016, 03:05

Re: Bring back Stone of Tremors

Arrhythmia wrote:i want it back because not having 4 elemental evokers is just Absolutely Fucked Up.
alternate solution to this: 0 elemental evokers

or just remove fan of gales tbh since it does nothing, then you still have the fire/ice symmetry (see rings, hells, bolts, throw frost/flame) whereas earth/air symmetry isn't really a thing

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Post Thursday, 20th October 2016, 04:20

Re: Bring back Stone of Tremors

Midn8 wrote:Basic Idea seems good. Would need reworking because current fan is trash.

I have to dissagree with this one. Fan can be a lifesaver if you are playing even slightly sloppily.
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/playe ... speon.html. I started playing in 0.16.1
I achieved greatplayer in less than a year.
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Post Thursday, 20th October 2016, 09:10

Re: Bring back Stone of Tremors

WingedEspeon wrote:Fan can be a lifesaver if you are playing even slightly sloppily.

Come on, nobody on tavern does that.

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Post Friday, 21st October 2016, 01:07

Re: Bring back Stone of Tremors

I thought Stone could be cool if it didn't destroy terrain or make elementals, but worked like a box or sack so that you could spam it for a bit, like a stronger but more limited Disc.

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Post Friday, 21st October 2016, 20:30

Re: Bring back Stone of Tremors

I would prefer if all evocables worked like boxes and were limited use, and be fully stackable, even wands.
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Post Saturday, 22nd October 2016, 17:26

Re: Bring back Stone of Tremors

Yes, wand stacking would be super excellent.

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