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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 16:59

Crawl Kickstarter live!

Well, not really. But let's pretend it is. What features would make you willing to donate some hard-earned money for it?
For me it would probably be:
  • A full tileset made by Denzi (I think a lot of new tiles are pretty good, but I really like their style and I'd love to see Crawl having a consistent art style)
  • dpeg being brought back as an idea guy (I like most of his ideas, except for the ones I don't, also random gods)
  • DracoOmega brought back to design some completely insane content (if it turns out bad after playtesting, we always have MarvinPA to cut it out)
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  • itemdest???

What about you?
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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 17:00

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food removal
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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 17:02

Re: Crawl Kickstarter live!

features that i would actually give money for? Hmmm...

Crawl 3d. Realtime Crawl. Crawl multiplayer co-op with an easy to use game lobby.

i think what i'd want the most though, is a modding toolkit so people can easily (to the extent that 'easily' is possible in this context) create their own total conversions for dungeon crawl.

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1. Useless messages are removed. This includes "You hit", "Hits you", "You miss", "Missed you", "Gods accepts your kill", "Orc seems more agile" etc.
a) You should be able to instantly see all temporary effects as icons and as tooltips. Tooltips replace xv also, you just move your mouse and instantly see rF+ of that fire dragon and MR infinity of that ancient lich.
b) You should see all to-hit chances and max damage before taking an action (in targetter), the same for monster to-hit/damage. You basically don't care how many times you missed, hit, were missed or were hit, it changes nothing provided you still see your HP and monsters' HP.
2. Console limits are removed in tiles version. You can see large battlefield, you can drag-and-drop every frame/window and place that HP bar or monsters row to wherever you want.
3. No food.
4. No upstairs, everything is a portal
5. Only monsters which are created initially give XP/items. No harmless/easy monsters are generated while you are on the level. After exploring the whole floor no monsters are generated (so you have a reason to explore as fast as possible, possibly skipping some dangerous monsters to deal with them later).
6. Characters cannot get 27 skill level in more than 3 skills, 20 levels in more than 5, 15 levels in more than 7.
7. No god swap, you are stuck with selected god for the whole game.
8. You heal instantly with no monsters in view. If some monsters are near your edge of view, they are brought into view instantly so you cannot heal, sleeping monsters continue too be sleeping after the instant movement. (This was implemented in circus animals fork, was quite fun despite having some issues with bringing some monsters who were behind a runed door).
9. You have speed 9.
10. No circles are possible (e.g. labyrinth, you still can have large rooms and doors of course).
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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 17:21

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If they bring back Djinni.

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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 17:25

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I'll back at the $1000 tier if the devs add me as a unique.
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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 17:36

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Hellmonk: You're lucky to have a nick that makes this very, very easy!
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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 17:51

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$1,500 stretch goal: Tavern removed, replaced with video of duvessa telling you you're wrong.

e: $2,000 stretch goal: second video added that's just dpeg talking about how good Brogue is.

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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 17:55

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Sar wrote:
  • dpeg being brought back as an idea guy (I like most of his ideas, except for the ones I don't, also random gods)
  • DracoOmega brought back to design some completely insane content (if it turns out bad after playtesting, we always have MarvinPA to cut it out)
  • itemdest???


I would pay money to prevent these things from happening.

Seriously though, I would be willing to fork some out for a vault-making tool that works as well as a complete rewrite of the vault design guide to be more usable and comprehensive. I think more people would enjoy contributing to crawl if it was less daunting to learn how.
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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 19:06

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Replays with tiles support

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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 19:17

Re: Crawl Kickstarter live!

I-I'd pay money to see named wizard spells (Ozocubu/Olgreb/Cigotuvi) be made into greater references, either by uniques/portals/items/set pieces.
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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 20:22

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I would pay money to have crawl remade in the style of a souls game, but not as slow as the first 2 souls games so maybe either bloodborne or 3 fighting speed

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It's probably too early to name The Worst Post of the thread, but I'm really tempted to.

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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2016, 21:04

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Turn Crawl into a multiplayer poker simulator with real money and special cards. We're going to call it "Nemex Purse". The first MOGA - Massive Online Gambling Arena.
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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 01:03

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CypherZel wrote:I would pay money to have crawl remade in the style of a souls game, but not as slow as the first 2 souls games so maybe either bloodborne or 3 fighting speed


miyazaki ending the soulsborne series is unforgivable

content: i'd like to see bloax do a 64x64 tileset all by himself.
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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 01:08

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What amount of money are we talking about? I guess I could spare like 2 euros and 18 cents for greatly reduced branch sizes.
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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 01:11

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Sar wrote:It's probably too early to name The Worst Post of the thread, but I'm really tempted to.

So what is it?

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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 01:42

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S Tier Priority:
* Full mouse control for online tiles
* Animated tiles/monsters/etc
* Animations for player/monster movement around the grid

A Tier Priority:
* Background music

B Tier Priority:
* Tiles replay support / replay browser in the webtiles server
* No account required to play webtiles
* Webtiles feature parity with offline tiles

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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 02:50

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Elitist wrote:I-I'd pay money to see named wizard spells (Ozocubu/Olgreb/Cigotuvi) be made into greater references, either by uniques/portals/items/set pieces.
Cigotuvi has a wizlab, at least.

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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 03:08

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I'd probably pay for crawl as is. Steam integration would be nice I guess? Maybe faster servers for webtiles?

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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 04:46

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chequers wrote:A Tier Priority:
* Background music


how could i forget sound support! Different mp3s for different areas of the game and some wavs for combat action, spell casting, etc. would be killer. Let us customize our sound files too.

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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 06:58

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Arrhythmia wrote:
miyazaki ending the soulsborne series is unforgivable
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Did not know this ;_; .

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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 14:07

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What do you mean bring dpeg back? When did he leave? He's in this thread!
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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 22:05

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I could pay a small amount just to make Jiyva a temple god.
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Post Wednesday, 12th October 2016, 22:34

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I will pay for a 128x128px or larger portrait of my OC with no background. She's a pale, lithe elf with medium-length red hair and faint freckles covering her skin and looks about 22 human years old. Her eyes are subtly green and she's quite shy so she should have a neutral expression. She doesn't wear any jewellery.
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Post Thursday, 13th October 2016, 05:37

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CypherZel wrote:
Arrhythmia wrote:
miyazaki ending the soulsborne series is unforgivable
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Did not know this ;_; .


jokes aside, i respect the hell out of the man for not milking the cash-cow dry. dark souls 3 is a hell of a note to leave on.
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Post Thursday, 13th October 2016, 05:38

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They should release the engine so I can make dark crawl

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CypherZel wrote:They should release the engine so I can make dark crawl


*pc walks into swirling portal*

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Post Thursday, 13th October 2016, 07:54

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Make dungeons harder

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Post Thursday, 13th October 2016, 12:55

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$1: Remove Tomb
$5: CWZ webtiles reverted to purely English
$10: Less ridiculous damage fluctuations
$20: Drastical shortening of all branches
$500: Dowan changed to female

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Post Thursday, 13th October 2016, 13:08

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Developers for other roguelikes mentioned that DCSS would probably get some money, simply by asking for donations.

Thank god, we never had to do that: I think that's better, firstly for moralistic reasons (if you want to think about money, there's always Gozag), and secondly because it wouldn't be clear how to split up money in such a large and ever-changing team, and thirdly because we're free to ruin the game in the way we like. I guess it might be okay to cover the running costs (for servers), but so far, all server admins also insisted on not getting money. :)


Scalding Steam wrote:$1: Remove Tomb
$5: CWZ webtiles reverted to purely English
$10: Less ridiculous damage fluctuations
$20: Drastical shortening of all branches
$500: Dowan changed to female
You get $20 for free, it just takes a while. For $5, do you want Australian English or Commonwealth English? The rest won't happen, of course.

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Post Friday, 14th October 2016, 01:24

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dpeg wrote:You get $20 for free
sign me up

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Post Friday, 14th October 2016, 02:18

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duvessa: You're signed up, but it takes a while!

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Post Friday, 14th October 2016, 04:20

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Even though I don't play anymore I'd gladly pay money for the game as it is. It's an amazing game that gives hours and hours of challenge and entertainment. But I think tainting the development with profit could only hurt the game. I see Crawl as a labor of love that doesn't aim at pleasing the lowest common denominator (which is what often happens once money is given and taken). Anyway, not to be a killjoy on a fun thread, but I can't think of donation goals off the top of my head because this game is truly wonderful and unique.

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Post Friday, 14th October 2016, 15:21

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You're gonna have to pay a LOT more than $500 to change me to female...

Multiply that by a billion or so and maybe we can start negotiating.
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Post Friday, 14th October 2016, 16:49

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I can make you female in my crawl for free.
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Post Tuesday, 18th October 2016, 20:49

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its been days and i still dont have my free $20, whats the holdup dpeg

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Post Saturday, 22nd October 2016, 07:46

Re: Crawl Kickstarter live!

The title got me excited :(

Features I would love:
Online features for offline play (daily runs with specific race/class/gods, unified server wide leaderboards, other player ghosts)
PVP after ascension. Kind of a weird idea that I had, but it would be cool if every time you ascend, you keep that character in an inventory of sorts. Then you could do 1v1 (or even team variants, hell) and the loser would have their character die forever while the winning character stayed alive and got some leaderboard points or something. Would be a good way to add even more to the end game.

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Post Saturday, 3rd December 2016, 05:15

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its december where the fuck is my money and my portrait
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Post Saturday, 3rd December 2016, 07:52

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does anyone k now how to request refund. i have googun spacecraft with cockpit captain face 5 and spiral ship, all worth over my next car loan payment. pm me for sale or s (sales)
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Post Saturday, 3rd December 2016, 08:13

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Cmon crawl devs, sound support. I got like 50 bucks on it who will match me
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Post Saturday, 3rd December 2016, 19:43

chequers wrote:B Tier Priority:
* Tiles replay support / replay browser in the webtiles server

Mhmm, what about replay in text mode? Like with, just to pick up an example, this one?


  Code:
The orc priest mumbles some strange prayers to Beogh against you.
Beogh smites you!
Ouch! That really hurt!
You die...
Kikubaaqudgha rasps: "You have failed me! Welcome... death!"


(Replay)

The
orc priest
mumbles
some
strange prayers
to Beogh
against you.

Beogh
smites
you!

Ou
ch
!
That
rea
lly
hurt
!

You
die
.
.
.

Kiku
baaqu
dgha
rasps:
"You have
failed
me!
Welcome...
death!"

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