Do not adjust fire aptitude for Steam Draconian


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Post Saturday, 8th October 2016, 21:05

Do not adjust fire aptitude for Steam Draconian

It just encourages players to go DrFE. That's not very adaptive to me, that sounds like playing with the odds.
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Post Saturday, 8th October 2016, 21:51

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Ive been doing this and rolled white, black, yellow, black, black, yellow DrFEs... These apts do nothing... Devs are trolling me, i think you in on it too. Arent you op?
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Post Saturday, 8th October 2016, 22:38

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lethediver wrote:Ive been doing this and rolled white, black, yellow, black, black, yellow DrFEs... These apts do nothing... Devs are trolling me, i think you in on it too. Arent you op?


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Post Sunday, 9th October 2016, 11:30

Re: Do not adjust fire aptitude for Steam Draconian

A +1 apt doesn't actually encourage you to do anything.

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Post Sunday, 9th October 2016, 13:25

Re: Do not adjust fire aptitude for Steam Draconian

Well that's not totally true. Especially for newer players who might overestimate the effect of apts, quite a few I think get frustrated when you get a "bad color" because it feels "suboptimal" or such, and might start scum or something to get the color they want. So while I agree that it's not really significant, I'd say color does actually encourage some people to make build decisions based on it.

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Post Sunday, 9th October 2016, 20:53

Re: Do not adjust fire aptitude for Steam Draconian

cerebovssquire wrote:A +1 apt doesn't actually encourage you to do anything.


An increase in apt does.
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Post Monday, 10th October 2016, 01:13

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Elitist wrote:
cerebovssquire wrote:A +1 apt doesn't actually encourage you to do anything.


An increase in apt does.


In what - real and not overly rare - situation do you think a +1 apt increase would influence a skilling decision? I genuinely can't remember a situation in the last months where this would have made a big difference for me. Especially with a draconian elementalist (which is what we are discussing here), the decision on what to train is basically determined by your starting book for a while, and then influenced by books you find, rather than your aptitudes.

edit: if you also meant that it causes new players to misinterpret its significance, that's a general property of the apt system and not really specific to this situation. But I assumed that's not what you meant because of the part about being adaptive in the OP.
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Post Monday, 10th October 2016, 01:14

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There should be unique steam dragon called Gaben.
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Post Monday, 10th October 2016, 01:44

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Lasiace wrote:[new] players ... overestimate the effect of apts


Emphasis mine. Whenever you talk about the effect +1 to an apt has on combo selection, imagine that's on a neon sign over your head, because that's what it looks like.
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