Shoals Surfer
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Joined: Monday, 23rd November 2015, 23:18
Wednesday, 5th October 2016, 14:41
Gargoyle Inconsistencies [RANT]
Between players;
Gargoyles are supposed to liken themselves to undead, but are non-living and can take all the benefits of being alive despite being non-living.
Humans can berserk because they are alive, and they have blood to bring about a rage.Their blood allows them to be poisoned.
Ghouls are undead, and cannot berserk because they lack blood to boil. Their lack of blood also makes them poison immune.
Gargoyles have no blood, so they're immune to poison. Having no blood, they can berserk because ???.
Draconians have awkwardly shaped vestigial wings, so they cannot put on armour. If they're Black (and level 14) or gain a mutation for it, they are able to use them and fly.
Tengus do not have wings, and gain inherent flight at level 5 which becomes permanent at level 14.
Gargoyles have wings that allow them to (FINALLY) fly at level 14. On top of their natural armour, they can wear armour.
Gargoyles aren't alive, why do they need to eat, and how do they use blowguns? How do MUMMIES use blowguns???
Gargoyles get natural GDR on top of their natural level based AC (which is also the highest of any race. Grey Draconian gets 18AC at level 27 without any GDR).
Why do Gargoyles get rN+ when they also have rTorment1/2. Contrary to popular belief, this makes being tormented bearable.
How come the undead races have awful caveats for their innate abilities, but all Gargoyle has to deal with is a spell that ONE unique has (it's really, really devastating when they target a Gargoyle, I will admit) and sometimes a Pandemonium Lord (I've personally seen this once)? The low HP only comes into play when AC bypassing spells are in play, one form of which is easily nullified by their natural rElec.
I get why Gargoyles start with rElec, because it makes sense(TM), but why rN+???
Between monsters;
Has anyone ever seen a monster Gargoyle shout? I haven't, but we can shout and people hear us around corners, so don't tell me it's telepathy or some crap like that.
I might be dumb, but are enemy Gargoyles immune to negative energy? I've never let anything but my undead summons kill them, but I have vague memories of trying to cast pain on one but being told it didn't work.
A Gargoyle with a breath weapon would be really cool, honestly. Every time I see a Molten/War Goyles, I keep thinking "Imagine if Gargoyles could have a water breath, like those gargoyles at fountains. That would be really neat.", then I remember Gargoyles are already pretty good at everything then forget the idea.
Gargoyles are supposed to liken themselves to undead, but are non-living and can take all the benefits of being alive despite being non-living.
Humans can berserk because they are alive, and they have blood to bring about a rage.Their blood allows them to be poisoned.
Ghouls are undead, and cannot berserk because they lack blood to boil. Their lack of blood also makes them poison immune.
Gargoyles have no blood, so they're immune to poison. Having no blood, they can berserk because ???.
Draconians have awkwardly shaped vestigial wings, so they cannot put on armour. If they're Black (and level 14) or gain a mutation for it, they are able to use them and fly.
Tengus do not have wings, and gain inherent flight at level 5 which becomes permanent at level 14.
Gargoyles have wings that allow them to (FINALLY) fly at level 14. On top of their natural armour, they can wear armour.
Gargoyles aren't alive, why do they need to eat, and how do they use blowguns? How do MUMMIES use blowguns???
Gargoyles get natural GDR on top of their natural level based AC (which is also the highest of any race. Grey Draconian gets 18AC at level 27 without any GDR).
Why do Gargoyles get rN+ when they also have rTorment1/2. Contrary to popular belief, this makes being tormented bearable.
How come the undead races have awful caveats for their innate abilities, but all Gargoyle has to deal with is a spell that ONE unique has (it's really, really devastating when they target a Gargoyle, I will admit) and sometimes a Pandemonium Lord (I've personally seen this once)? The low HP only comes into play when AC bypassing spells are in play, one form of which is easily nullified by their natural rElec.
I get why Gargoyles start with rElec, because it makes sense(TM), but why rN+???
Between monsters;
Has anyone ever seen a monster Gargoyle shout? I haven't, but we can shout and people hear us around corners, so don't tell me it's telepathy or some crap like that.
I might be dumb, but are enemy Gargoyles immune to negative energy? I've never let anything but my undead summons kill them, but I have vague memories of trying to cast pain on one but being told it didn't work.
A Gargoyle with a breath weapon would be really cool, honestly. Every time I see a Molten/War Goyles, I keep thinking "Imagine if Gargoyles could have a water breath, like those gargoyles at fountains. That would be really neat.", then I remember Gargoyles are already pretty good at everything then forget the idea.
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