implemented wont do

[Sprucery]

Fun fact: at least 1 item on the won't do list has actually been implemented (gyre and gimble), LOL.

It's not actual dual wielding though. Just a fast two-handed weapon.

[DracheReborn]

Fun fact: at least 1 item on the won't do list has actually been implemented (gyre and gimble), LOL.

It's not actual dual wielding though. Just a fast two-handed weapon.

You get 2 attacks. Isn't that what dual wielding is about?

[duvessa]

Fun fact: at least 1 item on the won't do list has actually been implemented (gyre and gimble), LOL.

There are 4 implemented "won't do" features so far:
- Dual wielding
- Give full xp for summons/ally kills (although this is only true for some allies at the moment)
- Commands for individual monsters
- Beneficial effects from chunks

So yeah, don't trust that wiki page too much.

[goodcoolguy]

Let's not forget crafting.

[arandomperson12]

Fun fact: at least 1 item on the won't do list has actually been implemented (gyre and gimble), LOL.

There are 4 implemented "won't do" features so far:
- Dual wielding
- Give full xp for summons/ally kills (although this is only true for some allies at the moment)
- Commands for individual monsters
- Beneficial effects from chunks

So yeah, don't trust that wiki page too much.

Which ally is that besides hep?
How do you command individual monsters?
Mutagenic chunks are not always good. Or are you talking about ghouls?

[Sprucery]

- Dual wielding

Not implemented. All we have is one two-handed weapon that attacks twice.

[ontoclasm]

Fun fact: at least 1 item on the won't do list has actually been implemented (gyre and gimble), LOL.

Every time somebody says Gyre and Gimble count as dual-wielding I am going to delete 100 random lines of Crawl source code

[roctavian]

It worked, though. We tricked players into thinking that dual wielding got added, without actually adding dual wielding. Psychology is an important part of game design, too.

[duvessa]

Fun fact: at least 1 item on the won't do list has actually been implemented (gyre and gimble), LOL.

Every time somebody says Gyre and Gimble count as dual-wielding I am going to delete 100 random lines of Crawl source code

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[duvessa]

But seriously there are at least 3 other things on the won't do list that have been partially implemented, so take your pick

[Magipi]

But seriously there are at least 3 other things on the won't do list that have been partially implemented

Probably yes, but nobody else knows what you mean by that.

[duvessa]

I literally listed them in the third post in this thread?!?

[Hellmonk]

Feature request: give full xp for summons/ally kills because it is neither a "necessary balance tool" nor an effective balance tool, and summons/allies should probably be balanced by actually balancing summons and allies.

[PleasingFungus]

Feature request: give full xp for summons/ally kills because it is neither a "necessary balance tool" nor an effective balance tool, and summons/allies should probably be balanced by actually balancing summons and allies.

i agree. patches welcome

[PleasingFungus]

I literally listed them in the third post in this thread?!?

There are 4 implemented "won't do" features so far:
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- Commands for individual monsters

How do you command individual monsters?

[duvessa]

worship beogh

[goodcoolguy]

Feature request: give full xp for summons/ally kills because it is neither a "necessary balance tool" nor an effective balance tool, and summons/allies should probably be balanced by actually balancing summons and allies.

i agree. patches welcome

, he said confidently, knowing no such patch would be forthcoming. Anyone could see balancing summons and allies is not possible in crawl...

But seriously, he's an idea: Monsters abjure summons when they attack through them with some probability based on hitdice and spellpower, which approaches 1 for high hitdice monster vs. a garbage summon. If it was a melee attack and doing so would result in approaching the player, the monster tramples as well. If it was a ranged attack, the attack goes through the abjured monster as if it weren't there.

[Hellmonk]

Feature request: give full xp for summons/ally kills because it is neither a "necessary balance tool" nor an effective balance tool, and summons/allies should probably be balanced by actually balancing summons and allies.

i agree. patches welcome

Sent :^)

[DracheReborn]

RIP random lines of crawl source code

[lethediver]

Feature request: give full xp for summons/ally kills because it is neither a "necessary balance tool" nor an effective balance tool, and summons/allies should probably be balanced by actually balancing summons and allies.

i agree. patches welcome

Sent :^)

the absolute madman

[jwoodward48ss]

How does BEOGH allow you to order specific allies around?

[PleasingFungus]

How does BEOGH allow you to order specific allies around?

by having only one ally and leaving all the others on other dungeon levels. it's a very silly, pedantic thing to say, which is perfect for C.Y.C

[Lasty]

I expect he meant gifting items to allies under Beogh.

[jwoodward48ss]

Wut

[stickyfingers]

You can also order specific ally to rise from the dead.

[and into]

The reason that was on the "won't do list" was in order to avoid (further) tedious micromanaging of allies. Beogh has had more additional "affect one ally at time" micromanaging added over time. So it is arguably an implemented feature of "won't do list" in word, but I think it definitely is in spirit.

"Permadeath -- no extra lives" used to be on that list (maybe still is?) but felids exist, so....

Why does the list exist then? Because these were things were requested repeatedly over the years (maybe not so often now) and rather than explain each time why it is not a good idea you could just refer them to the list.

The evidence would seem to suggest that the developers do not actually treat the list as law when it comes to implementing their ideas. At best they (maybe) see them as guidelines.

[DracheReborn]

Oooh, just noticed another one.

More numerical feedback, for stealth or MR or piety or damage dealt to monsters.

Chance to hex % seems like numerical feedback, which I find very helpful btw, so big thanks to whoever did it!

And yes, agree that it's more a guideline than an immutable law, it's just funny when it happens

[dpeg]

"won't do" is dev speak for "stop suggesting this already"