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Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Saturday, 27th August 2016, 20:28
by mopl
You'll find here and here the 2 morgues of the only Unlucky titles winners (Nemelex penance).

On the footv of the first one, you'll see that he made Nemelex angry by throwing a deck in lava... Very bad :twisted:

I guess the other one does the same, I was too lazy to find the exact moment in his Abyss trip...

You'll notice they played 0.13 and 0.12 games... So I built a 0.13 GrFi of Oka (for Invoc), abandoned him, sacced a bunch of items, throw a deck in deep water... No effect :( looked for some lava, throw another deck, Nemelex is still happy...

Anyway, instead of making another 0.12 char, I tried a 0.12 sprint and did the same, Nemelex approves me destroying decks...

Is this title gone forever ?

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Saturday, 27th August 2016, 21:45
by 4Hooves2Appendages
Just abandoning isn't enough?

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Saturday, 27th August 2016, 22:40
by Doesnt
Not having a religion gives you one of Unbeliever, Agnostic, Dissident, Heretic, or Apostate depending on how high your Invocations skill is. Abandoning Nemelex and rejoining removes wrath, so no, it does not look like the title is available anymore.

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 05:37
by scorpionwarrior
Did every god have a penance title? I've never seen them in any title list before, even the old ones with all the jokey titles linley made

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 05:56
by Doesnt
Every god still has one, including ones that you've never been able to get penance under; you can see them with all the other god titles if you scroll down here: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/mas ... ibe-god.cc

In case the list gets moved:
Zin - Blasphemer
TSO - Honourless
Kiku - Tormented
Yred - Traitor
Xom - Toy (his moods are handled elsewhere; all of his titles are Toy)
Vehumet - Meek
Okawaru - Coward
Makhleb - Orderly
Sif Muna - Ignorant
Trog - Puny
Nemelex - Unlucky Foo
Elyvilon - Sinner
Lugonu - Pure
Beogh - Apostate
Jiyva - Scum
Fedhas - (correct form of Walking) Fertilizer
Cheibriados - Hasty
Ashenzari - Star-crossed
Dithmenos - Ember
Gozag - Profligate (not normally visible; having 0 gold makes you a Pauper and he forgives deserters immediately on rejoining)
Qazlal - Unspoiled
Ru - Sleeper
Pakellas - Reactionary
Uskayaw - Prude
Hepllettersalad - Damnatio Memoriae

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 06:33
by scorpionwarrior
Awesome! I want all of those titles on my win list except the weird pakellas one.

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 09:36
by mopl
scorpionwarrior wrote:Awesome! I want all of those titles on my win list except the weird pakellas one.

This one ?

I'm having a hard time collecting all of them...

So it's probably impossible now to be Unlucky :( But I don't get what was changed in old versions ?? The 2 example I quoted show it used to be possible...

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 09:58
by Croases
That Qazlal's apostate title is "Unspoiled" speaks volumes about how you have to play that god.

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 11:09
by 4Hooves2Appendages
There must be some change were gods stopped caring about item destruction. I don't see why that would affect old versions though.

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 12:42
by mopl
Playing some oldies, I noticed some "recent" changes that seemed to affect old versions. I'll make a thread about it, but I'm pretty sure that 0.12 had 8 vaults level (now 5) and only one Abyss floor (now 5)...

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 15:00
by Sar
mopl wrote:So it's probably impossible now to be Unlucky

that's so meta

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 18:14
by genericpseudonym
mopl wrote:Playing some oldies, I noticed some "recent" changes that seemed to affect old versions. I'll make a thread about it, but I'm pretty sure that 0.12 had 8 vaults level (now 5) and only one Abyss floor (now 5)...

Were you playing online or downloading the old versions? It might just be the webtiles server messing things up.

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 20:07
by Airwolf
Plutocrat will make you want to stop playing crawl.

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/combo ... 004252.txt

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 20:44
by mopl
genericpseudonym wrote:
mopl wrote:Playing some oldies, I noticed some "recent" changes that seemed to affect old versions. I'll make a thread about it, but I'm pretty sure that 0.12 had 8 vaults level (now 5) and only one Abyss floor (now 5)...

Were you playing online or downloading the old versions? It might just be the webtiles server messing things up.
Online, of course... I should probably try a console game...

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Sunday, 28th August 2016, 23:17
by Arrhythmia
i don't know why you're all acting like this is a glitch, kilobyte removed it a long time ago

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Monday, 29th August 2016, 05:48
by mopl
Arrhythmia wrote:i don't know why you're all acting like this is a glitch, kilobyte removed it a long time ago

That answers some of my questions ;)

Are 0.11 or 0.10 affected ? I'm ready to play with weight management, item destruction, poor UI :p

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Monday, 29th August 2016, 17:16
by Arrhythmia
mopl wrote:
Arrhythmia wrote:i don't know why you're all acting like this is a glitch, kilobyte removed it a long time ago

That answers some of my questions ;)

Are 0.11 or 0.10 affected ? I'm ready to play with weight management, item destruction, poor UI :p


No; deck destruction giving penance was in the game for just about one month, and never landed in a stable version.

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Monday, 29th August 2016, 17:25
by Shtopit
Plutocrat? That's something Mussolini would say XD

Anyway, is there a title of Titleplayer?

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Monday, 29th August 2016, 18:47
by Airwolf
Shtopit wrote:Anyway, is there a title of Titleplayer?


We need this!

comborobin won with all the top tier titles that were available at the time (skill 27, god titles, plus the few corner cases Iike Ogre Mage, but not all the possible @Foo@ values). I think someone got the top Pak title later, but I'm not sure about Hep and Usk.

Winning with the bottom tier skill titles seems nuts: you'd need all skills less than 8!

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Monday, 29th August 2016, 19:03
by jwoodward48ss
Lore master 4

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Monday, 29th August 2016, 21:04
by 4Hooves2Appendages
You know what to do mopl!

Submit a patch that re-introduces deck-destruction-penance.

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Monday, 29th August 2016, 21:37
by bcadren
How is it possible to get Ru wrath? like seriously...dude doesn't give a fuck about shit.

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

PostPosted: Tuesday, 30th August 2016, 13:44
by mopl
Arrhythmia wrote:
mopl wrote:
Arrhythmia wrote:i don't know why you're all acting like this is a glitch, kilobyte removed it a long time ago

That answers some of my questions ;)

Are 0.11 or 0.10 affected ? I'm ready to play with weight management, item destruction, poor UI :p


No; deck destruction giving penance was in the game for just about one month, and never landed in a stable version.
NOOOOOOOOOOO
4Hooves2Appendages wrote:You know what to do mopl!

Submit a patch that re-introduces deck-destruction-penance.
There goes a good idea :D