Good riddance Jelly eating/SustAb!

[le_nerd]

You will not be missed.

6f6d809 | Chris Campbell | 2016-08-12 22:38:19 +0100

Make jelly item-eating Jiyva only
It no longer makes any sense as an effect on random jellies since it can only
ever trigger out of LOS, making it extremely unclear as to what's actually
happening and how. Removes a few vaults relying on this behaviour, as well as
one outdated jelly vault based on old corrosion that placed damaged items.
Also increases Jiyva jellies' appetites by letting them eat stones too.

98d623e | Chris Campbell | 2016-08-12 21:58:49 +0100

Remove the sustain attributes effect
The ring in particular would only rarely be used to help compensate for a few
sources of particularly large amounts of stat drain (generally mummy death
curses and CBoE/Wucad Mu usage). With the ring gone, the effect just remained
on Demigods and the orange crystal plate unrand, and in both cases doesn't seem
sufficiently interesting or integral to their designs to merit keeping such a
niche effect around.

Slightly toned down a few of the higher-tier sources of stat drain to partially
compensate for cases where it might have been more often used.

[MainiacJoe]

But I still habitually stash on Lair:2, having started in 0.15

[arandomperson12]

How much has the stat drain been reduced?

[vergil]

How much has the stat drain been reduced?

I'd say substantially, from my today's expierience in Abyss. Haven't visited Tomb though.

[Shard1697]

But I still habitually stash on Lair:2, having started in 0.15

You should try not stashing

[MainiacJoe]

But I still habitually stash on Lair:2, having started in 0.15

You should try not stashing

I know, I'm doing it less. I still inevitably bookmark locations, because I am still inventory-purging usually in big batches instead of constantly winnowing as I go along. And then I go back there to swap items and that pile gets bigger, and before you know it, a stash! But making sure it's on Lair:2, at least I don't do that anymore.

[lethediver]

Not sure about the removal of SustAb. All i can picture is me having to pause after every 10 mummies in tomb, sigh, and go to abyss or pan to get my stats back up. Going to turn whats already a stairdance slog into a full dungeondance.

[Shtopit]

I am somewhat sorry for demigods, did they get something in return?

[Rast]

FR: Give demigods full-on stat drain immunity.

[bcadren]

My current character is using a SustAt ring...because 4 STR base and Deterioration lead to paralysis once...didn't want to repeat. Since this SustAt source is one of the 8 rings of the octopus king, what's going to happen to that ring? rCorr or something?

[jwoodward48ss]

You will not be missed.

6f6d809 | Chris Campbell | 2016-08-12 22:38:19 +0100

Make jelly item-eating Jiyva only

YEAH!

98d623e | Chris Campbell | 2016-08-12 21:58:49 +0100

Remove the sustain attributes effect

NO!

[Shard1697]

Why no? It was such a boring ring, and barely even relevant even in tomb...

[arandomperson12]

Mummies can death curse you up to 7 points in each stat (previously). Some characters might not have seven points in each stat. Once you have stat zeroed, it is very hard to get out.

[Leszczynek]

Yet another reason to not do extended. Get 15 runes once for completion sake and never bother again.

[PleasingFungus]

Mummies can death curse you up to 7 points in each stat (previously). Some characters might not have seven points in each stat.

hm, seems like it'd good that they can't do that anymore, then

[bcadren]

Update: I won the character that had to wear SustAt. (with only 5 runes, but still a win).

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Bcadr ... 232202.txt