The Tavern

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That feeling when after a game of bad shops you get 8 shops in V:5 - and 5 of them are food... Seriously we could use a reduction in food shops in late-late game!

(extremely tavern voice) I see no reason late game shops should be exempt from rules of shop generation that exist everywhere else in the game. You just want more stuff for free.

How about a universal reduction in food shops by 25%?

not that you aren't right, I always want more stuff for free.

Removing food would also remove food shops, btw

No it wouldn't, come on. Food should be removed, but food shops should stay as the dud shops they always were. Better yet, food could continue to exist, but be useless to everyone, and be no less common in the dungeon! And for some inexplicable reason, you can't take it off autopickup.

dowan wrote:No it wouldn't, come on. Food should be removed, but food shops should stay as the dud shops they always were. Better yet, food could continue to exist, but be useless to everyone, and be no less common in the dungeon! And for some inexplicable reason, you can't take it off autopickup.

That's actually pretty good. It means that you would still be able to bread swing.

It's been a long time since I had a Vaults:5 with any shops at all!

Leave food but get rid of food shops, they are pointless but also a massive waste, scroll of random uselessness is a waste but bit huge, half of the shops you get have nothing of value in them anyway

i'm very confused about where scrolls of random uselessness come into this.

They're bit huge. What's confusing about that?

goodcoolguy wrote:(extremely tavern voice) I see no reason late game shops should be exempt from rules of shop generation that exist everywhere else in the game. You just want more stuff for free.

this, but unironically

CypherZel wrote:get rid of food shops, they are pointless

My point was exactly the same. After ~60 wins I played a DEFE^Sif. It was a speedrun and channeling was heavily used, so I run out of food in Spider:4 and was forced to run to the D to buy some food. I even didn't got the rune, it was a real humiliation.

ololoev wrote:
CypherZel wrote:get rid of food shops, they are pointless

My point was exactly the same. After ~60 wins I played a DEFE^Sif. It was a speedrun and channeling was heavily used, so I run out of food in Spider:4 and was forced to run to the D to buy some food. I even didn't got the rune, it was a real humiliation.

Channeling isn't a thing anymore...

CypherZel wrote:
ololoev wrote:
CypherZel wrote:get rid of food shops, they are pointless

My point was exactly the same. After ~60 wins I played a DEFE^Sif. It was a speedrun and channeling was heavily used, so I run out of food in Spider:4 and was forced to run to the D to buy some food. I even didn't got the rune, it was a real humiliation.

Channeling isn't a thing anymore...

Some of us don't play trunk.

infinitevox wrote:
CypherZel wrote:
ololoev wrote:[quote="CypherZel"]get rid of food shops, they are pointless

My point was exactly the same. After ~60 wins I played a DEFE^Sif. It was a speedrun and channeling was heavily used, so I run out of food in Spider:4 and was forced to run to the D to buy some food. I even didn't got the rune, it was a real humiliation.

Channeling isn't a thing anymore...

Some of us don't play trunk.[/quote]

Then why complain about a build that will never get updated? Pointless

uhhh what?

PleasingFungus wrote:i'm very confused about where scrolls of random uselessness come into this.

FR: scrolls of random uselessness generate food shops

infinitevox wrote:uhhh what?

He/she's saying that there's no point complaining about an effect of removed feature just because it used to exist. Where would the balancing go? Trunk? it doesn't exist in trunk!

FR: give food shops a 50% chance to spawn abandoned instead.

more reason why dc:pt is superior: pizza shops are actually a relief when you see them, not disappointment (like most of regular crawl) and they are a resource if you can`t use them like if your`re a spriggan with the s- s-syner... the synerg... the good for the spriggans vegan god, because they can firebomb the mothafuckaz for piety. but devs evendencually steal all my good dieas. they sometimes ideas and don`t even to use them.

You know, I always wonder to myself why mimics still exist within the game, and I had an idea: replace mimics with food shops!

"The brightly glowing crystal plate armour giggles and becomes Lolhuhu's Food Shop!"

Ooohhh, and what about a buff to death cobs? They could fill your inventory with corn!

What about food traps that drop random comestibles into your inventory and instantly put you at starving?

I can smell the future meaningfulness of food from here, like freshly baked bread.

Add shops of random uselessness that only contain items you can't use, like potions of blood or naga bardings.

And always give them a stack of 100 scrolls of random ueselessness at the top.

My deep dwarf necromancer who has been spamming major destruction and agony all game with 4 pip spell hunger would like a word...

Seriously, I'm using amulet of gourmand right now to stave off starvation. It's a good thing the devs were naive enough to make food generate in the abyss or I might actually CARE about the hunger clock right now.

Having said that, even one food shop would save me about 5 hours of RL working farming permafood... curse these fucking ring shoppes.

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