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Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 21:08
by Arrhythmia
Right now it reads "Foo the Markshuman". Markshuman is just about the stupidest fucking word I have ever seen. Please change it to the actual, real people word, marksman, or some gender-neutral version if that's a thing you really care about.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 21:20
by removeelyvilon
Found this on Wiktionary (so take it with a grain of salt) about the suffix "-man": To include men and women, either the suffix -person is used, or a gender-inclusive synonym, for example police officer instead of policeman.

So to make it gender-neutral it would be marksperson.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 21:21
by duvessa
There's no species for which the title doesn't look completely stupid, honestly. Same for Merry X. Can't say I find markshuman particularly worse than marksorc or markscentaur or marksmerfolk or marksminotaur or

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 21:22
by Arrhythmia
I am fine with marksperson, because it doesn't sound like a visiting martian came up with it.

e: Other suggestions, that aren't as fucking lunatic as "markshuman":

Eagle-eye
Dead-eye

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 21:26
by Arrhythmia
duvessa wrote:There's no species for which the title doesn't look completely stupid, honestly. Same for Merry X. Can't say I find markshuman particularly worse than marksorc or markscentaur or marksmerfolk or marksminotaur or


Yes, but the English language already has a word for "a human what is good at shooting arrows" that begins with the prefix "Mark-". It is "Marksman". There is not an equivalent word for any other species, because those don't exist, and can get away with looking dumb, because they are made up to fill a void. "Markshuman" is a garbage word that has been made up for absolutely no good reason at all.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 21:34
by yesno
make it Marksnerd for all species

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 22:03
by Lacuenta
Funnily, discussions about wich gender pre/suf -fix to use only tend to enforce the idea of inequelity.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 22:09
by Arrhythmia
Lacuenta wrote:Funnily, discussions about wich gender pre/suf -fix to use only tend to enforce the idea of inequelity.


Don't you fucking dare make this a conversation about anything other than the trash-word "markshuman"

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 22:21
by duvessa
Lacuenta wrote:Funnily, discussions about wich gender pre/suf -fix to use only tend to enforce the idea of inequelity.
looks like we found something stupider than "Markshuman"

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 22:49
by xentronium
Markshlonger69

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 23:51
by Shtopit
I propose Stutzman. It's a compliment for men and women alike.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 01:07
by milski
Markshedding

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 01:30
by swoonis
Gender politics are still a pressing issue within the dungeon.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 01:35
by Sar
I actually don't mind it at all, feels in line with other races' titles. Why should humans be special? That would be racist.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 03:40
by PleasingFungus
say no to special cases for humans. no handouts!

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 04:06
by Arrhythmia
PleasingFungus wrote:say no to special cases for humans. no handouts!


Open your eyes people! One percent of spriggan necromancers have hold ten percent of the world's special skill title cases! This isn't about handouts, it's about justice for the common man!

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 05:18
by tedric
Arrhythmia wrote:it's about justice for the common human!

FTFY

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 11:07
by 4Hooves2Appendages
Could go with Master Archer as natural progression. It even exists in the game already. (Yes, elves would lose their special status.)

That said, I find Marksfoo quite amusing and would be happy to stick with it. Perhaps it could be made a bit smoother like Marktopode, Markiggan, etc.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 14:40
by BabyRage
Arrhythmia wrote:Markshuman is just about the stupidest fucking word I have ever seen.

"Stupidest" is just about the most stupid fucking word I have ever seen.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 15:07
by dowan
Eh, markshuman is worse...

By the way:
stu·pid
ˈst(y)o͞opəd/adjective
superlative adjective: stupidest


In fact, reading around it sounds like more stupid and most stupid are actually incorrect, although I have only done about 1 minute of google research on the subject, so I can't promise any of that is true.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 16:07
by ololoev
removeelyvilon wrote:So to make it gender-neutral it would be marksperson.

Who the f. cares about gender neutralitet?

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 16:39
by archaeo
ololoev wrote:
removeelyvilon wrote:So to make it gender-neutral it would be marksperson.

Who the f. cares about gender neutralitet?

I mean, judging by how often the Tavern wants to discuss it, basically everyone. So much.

FWIW, I find "Markshuman" kind of dumb and charming and don't mind it, sorry Arrhy.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 16:44
by Arrhythmia
BabyRage wrote:
Arrhythmia wrote:Markshuman is just about the stupidest fucking word I have ever seen.

"Stupidest" is just about the most stupid fucking word I have ever seen.


Prescriptivism is just about the stupidest fucking philosophy I have ever seen.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 16:54
by Zooty
Marksist

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 17:20
by Airwolf
Markswoman! Markstrix!

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 17:30
by goodcoolguy
I suggest "Marksbro," "Marksdude," or perhaps "Marksdudebro."

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 17:41
by archaeo
Zooty wrote:Marksist

It's time to seize the means of arrow production, comrades.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 18:06
by Airwolf
I wrote a rant, thought better of it, and deleted it. My apologies.

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 19:48
by duvessa
Image

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th July 2016, 21:34
by BabyRage
dowan wrote:Eh, markshuman is worse...

By the way:
stu·pid
ˈst(y)o͞opəd/adjective
superlative adjective: stupidest


In fact, reading around it sounds like more stupid and most stupid are actually incorrect, although I have only done about 1 minute of google research on the subject, so I can't promise any of that is true.

My English sucks pls no hate Kappa

Re: Change the 3rd tier bows title for humans

PostPosted: Thursday, 14th July 2016, 14:31
by dowan
Hey, no hate, I just thought you'd be interested to learn it. If english isn't your first language then... nice job learning it, because I couldn't tell.