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Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 2nd August 2016, 17:02
by and into
Don't take Kiku on a necromancer, you already have necromancy spells so you won't get as much. (bad advice and bad reasoning)

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd August 2016, 01:12
by Shard1697
You shouldn't equip glowing weapons on a gozag character, because if you get distortion you'll banish some enemies and hinder your gold gain.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd August 2016, 02:26
by arandomperson12
In recent versions, all branded weapons are identified on sight.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd August 2016, 02:48
by xentronium
Don't eat to engorged all the time, because you'll gain weight.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd August 2016, 06:01
by Shard1697
arandomperson12 wrote:In recent versions, all branded weapons are identified on sight.
Only ones wielded by enemies, branded weapons that are just lying on the ground and have not been picked up are unidentified.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd August 2016, 16:41
by arandomperson12
I'm pretty sure ground weapons also have brand shown (but I might be wrong).

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd August 2016, 16:46
by mopl
Shard1697 wrote:
arandomperson12 wrote:In recent versions, all branded weapons are identified on sight.
Only ones wielded by enemies, branded weapons that are just lying on the ground and have not been picked up are unidentified.
And only the ones you see a monster with... For example if you fireball a foe you haven't seen behind a corner (let's say orc pack), its weapon won't be identified ! :evil:

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd August 2016, 19:56
by dynast
You should kill pikel's slaves as soon as you free them because they might wander and kill enemies wielding branded weapons out of your sight.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd August 2016, 21:09
by jwoodward48ss
You shouldn't worship Chei because he prevents you from berserking to run to staircases.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Thursday, 4th August 2016, 04:16
by genericpseudonym
You shouldn't berserk to run to staircases because you want to be axing 8 enemies at once to maximize the chance that Trog will extend your berserk duration after a kill.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Thursday, 4th August 2016, 05:35
by CypherZel
dracos369 wrote:Don't wear Orange crystal plate armor on melee dudes, cause what use to you is archmagi anyway?


I know it's a joke but I found orange plays armour in early dungeons as a GrBe and it was pretty much a free 3 rune game from there ( it was a free 3 rune game when i picked GrBe)

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Thursday, 4th August 2016, 13:13
by Floodkiller
It is more important to identify your potions first over your scrolls; you want to find out which potion type is mutation as soon as possible to be able to drink them.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Thursday, 4th August 2016, 23:28
by Doesnt
Worshipping Kikubaaqudgha is a good choice because he lets you summon corpses which you can butcher to extend your berserk duration while you run to staircases.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Friday, 5th August 2016, 00:32
by twelwe
you should post because your postcount goes up

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Friday, 5th August 2016, 09:57
by genericpseudonym
twelwe wrote:you should post because your postcount goes up

This is incorrect
The only reason to post is to acquire thankses

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Friday, 5th August 2016, 11:39
by Elitist
The Shining One is a great god for the extended game because they give you extra shield skill. Cerebov is the most dangerous enemy in extended because his melee hits do tremendous damage, which shields can block.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Friday, 5th August 2016, 12:50
by ZoFy
Don't save enchant armour scrolls for GDA because if you can kill a gold dragon you should be strong enough to find more of those scrolls by scumming the Abyss or clearing half of a Ziggurat.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Friday, 5th August 2016, 13:08
by xentronium
MiBe is like HOBe because there's a 'b' in both.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Friday, 5th August 2016, 16:22
by bcadren
Play a Formacid, Quaffing Potions of Haste won't give you any Contam.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Saturday, 6th August 2016, 03:06
by ichbins
play a formicid because this way you'll never run out of blink scrolls!

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Saturday, 6th August 2016, 06:50
by bcadren
Corpse Rot is a really good spell. Standing in a cloud of miasma will prevent a Catoblepas from petrifying you!

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Sunday, 7th August 2016, 21:21
by phloomp
Poison magic is better than earth, since with earth you have to wait for a staff of earth, but with poison the staff of poison OR the staff of Olgreb will do.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Sunday, 7th August 2016, 21:24
by vergil
Using passwall near freezing clouds may sometimes lead you to a secret Pakellas vault.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Sunday, 7th August 2016, 21:26
by Croases
It is not recommended to play mummies as a beginner, as they can't cast Necromutation.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 11:13
by kuniqs
You should always play Ogres because there's no way telling when Talos plate mail shows up.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 11:22
by Sar
kuniqs wrote:You should always play Ogres because there's no way telling when Talos plate mail shows up.

There is: never!

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 12:34
by kuniqs
You should learn Passage of Golubria whenever you find it - it saves lots of permafood when backtracking.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 12:43
by arandomperson12
It is useful for formicids and people in heavy armour who can't cast cblink.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 13:29
by Sandman25
You should always learn Passage of Golubria as MiFi, after that you can stop training Translocations for CBlink and switch to heavy armour from robe.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 14:00
by Sandman25
Worship Chei because you will be able to use aftefacts with stat penalties like +1 pair of boots of Absence {rF+ Str-3 Dex+3 Stlth+} and amulet of Waog {+Fly rElec Regen+ Str-5 Stlth+}.
Spoiler: show

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 14:32
by dynast
You should play TeTm because flying spider form can easily reach 50EV

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 14:35
by Sandman25
dynast wrote:You should play TeTm because flying spider form can easily reach 50EV


This is not bad reasoning IMHO. Also TeTm can kite normal speed monsters in spider form, I spectated it and it was hilarious.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 14:36
by Arrhythmia
Direct people to this thread when you're having an argument on the tavern, they'll probably thank my posts!

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 15:14
by dowan
After having an argument on the forum, come to this thread and post a strawman version of what your opponent said. This will get you many thanks, and it's a little known fact that the more thanks you have on the forums, the better the RNG works for you in the game.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 16:29
by dynast
Sandman25 wrote:
dynast wrote:You should play TeTm because flying spider form can easily reach 50EV


This is not bad reasoning IMHO. Also TeTm can kite normal speed monsters in spider form, I spectated it and it was hilarious.

It was bad advice with good reasoning.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 16:32
by kuniqs
You should always go Chei because luring is evil

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 16:58
by Sandman25
dynast wrote:It was bad advice with good reasoning.


I believe bad advice cannot consist in suggestion to play a combo. Unless you meant it was an advice for a new player looking the easiest combo for first win.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 17:26
by Doesnt
play a tetm because you can be a goddamn flying spider holy shit

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 18:16
by jwoodward48ss
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If you're a Formicid in a hurry, use a wand of digging instead of mandibles! It saves on hunger, so you won't starve as you run away.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 18:32
by dynast
Sandman25 wrote:
dynast wrote:It was bad advice with good reasoning.


I believe bad advice cannot consist in suggestion to play a combo. Unless you meant it was an advice for a new player looking the easiest combo for first win.

DUDE...

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 19:21
by jwoodward48ss
Play a MuCK!

Interpreted by everyone as:

MuCK are either viable or fun!

If neither, bad advice.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 19:29
by Sandman25
jwoodward48ss wrote:Play a MuCK!

Interpreted by everyone as:

MuCK are either viable or fun!

If neither, bad advice.


Why? Fun is subjective and MuCK is viable, people win it regularly. Also some players like challenge/unusual game even when they don't think they can win (like I played a character who could do nothing but cast spells).
Specifically I won MuCK after someone suggested it to play for me on the forum so I literally followed the "bad" advice ;)

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 19:54
by jwoodward48ss
I'm not saying it -is- bad advice. I'm just saying that bad advice is a thing that happens.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 19:58
by Sandman25
And I am saying that "You should play TeTm because" (or any other combo) is not a bad advice.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 20:16
by Sar
It is a bad advice if someone is asking for a good Tm race, or a good melee character and you just recommend TeTm without any further explanation.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 20:20
by Sandman25
Sar wrote:It is a bad advice if someone is asking for a good Tm race, or a good melee character and you just recommend TeTm without any further explanation.


Yes, this is what I meant with
Sandman25 wrote:I believe bad advice cannot consist in suggestion to play a combo. Unless you meant it was an advice for a new player looking the easiest combo for first win.


Without any conditions/requests it is not a bad advice. Maybe I have professional deformation, idk.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 21:00
by Blomdor
Always lure enemies away and fight them one on one, because it isn't honorable to engage in reckless brawling. Encounters between monsters and adventurers should always be fair, respectable duels. An unprincipled and uncultured adventurer is unworthy of the title. One must always remember to issue a polite challenge before sparring, and give one's opponent as much time as is needed to prepare. In addition, a truly skilled duelist will allow their opponent to make the first move.

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 21:44
by dolemite99
Don't wield-ID a "runed" or "glowing" blowgun, because if cursed it will stick to your lips, or your tengu beak, or your mummy-face-wrappings. But you can then use it to poke a foe in the eye, so there is that ....

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Tuesday, 9th August 2016, 22:27
by jwoodward48ss
Actually, what would the blowgun stick to? Presumably the hands, as the lips are just the force-inducer. (Otherwise, you could still wield things, just not be able to read.)

Re: Give advice using the absolute worst reasoning possible

PostPosted: Wednesday, 10th August 2016, 02:23
by Hellmonk
DDSk is one of the strongest skald starts because you take less damage than other races when enemies hit your spectral weapon.