Eat which item?


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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 02:10

Eat which item?

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Floor Items (',' to select)

But why?

Edit: the commit (link) references "easy_floor_use" option, I set it to true but it doesn't seem to work? Unless the effect is to make me eat immediately after pressing ','.

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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 07:16

Re: Eat which item?

Sar wrote:
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Floor Items (',' to select)

But why?

Edit: the commit (link) references "easy_floor_use" option, I set it to true but it doesn't seem to work? Unless the effect is to make me eat immediately after pressing ','.


https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10464

[The previous interface] has the undesirable feature that typing "rd" will sometimes mean reading an item from the floor and sometimes mean reading an item from your inventory.

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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 17:03

Re: Eat which item?

The problem is, in 99.9999999999% of cases when I'm standing on a food item and pressing 'e' I want to eat that item from the floor there's a single food item/a stack of similar food items which I can't pick up (or don't want to), but want to eat because why not. Is it possible to include an option for old behavior? The only case where the new food interface would be useful is if I'm starving, standing on a meat ration surrounded by enemies and want to eat a fruit to remove Starving without wasting 3 turns eating a meat ration. Which is well, not something that I expect to happen commonly, even to me.

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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 19:13

Re: Eat which item?

the old behavior shows up by default, for me, with nothing in my rc.

(1) stand on chunks (2) become hungry (3) hit "e" (4) Eat one of the 4 chunks of flesh? "ye/n/q"

maybe you have something weird in your rcfile that's messing with it? try with a vanilla rc

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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 20:26

Re: Eat which item?

No, I'm not talking about chunks. I mean stuff like pizzas and jerky, something I might not want to dedicate an inventory slot to but hey, why let it go to waste?

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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 22:41

Re: Eat which item?

merging all permafood is an urgent change at this point

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Post Wednesday, 6th July 2016, 02:56

Re: Eat which item?

can i antithank a post
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Post Wednesday, 6th July 2016, 03:10

Re: Eat which item?

The solution is obvious: Remove and merge junk items (most wands, e.g. confusion + enslavement = bewitchment, slow + paralysis = debilitation, etc., some potions, e.g. might, agility, and brilliance could easily merge into a single potion, some scrolls, especially id scrolls and rc scrolls, food, etc. some progress has already been made here), make items you have equipped part of a separate inventory, like you see in angband and its variants, to knock off about ten more slots and then reduce maximum inventory size to 26 assigned to letters a-z. Extend normal inventory with floor items assigned to letters A-Z marked "(on floor)" at the end of the description line. Crawl improves immeasurably.
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Post Wednesday, 6th July 2016, 12:59

Re: Eat which item?

Sar wrote:The problem is, in 99.9999999999% of cases when I'm standing on a food item and pressing 'e' I want to eat that item from the floor there's a single food item/a stack of similar food items which I can't pick up (or don't want to), but want to eat because why not. Is it possible to include an option for old behavior? The only case where the new food interface would be useful is if I'm starving, standing on a meat ration surrounded by enemies and want to eat a fruit to remove Starving without wasting 3 turns eating a meat ration. Which is well, not something that I expect to happen commonly, even to me.

I must be misunderstanding your post, since AFAICT this is what's changed in your example:

Before: you press 'ey' to eat the food on the ground
After: you press 'e,' to eat the food on the ground
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Post Thursday, 7th July 2016, 00:40

Re: Eat which item?

Unless it was changed again,
before: you press e->y
after: you press e->,->[letter of food on ground].

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Post Thursday, 7th July 2016, 01:11

Re: Eat which item?

Shard1697 wrote:Unless it was changed again,
before: you press e->y
after: you press e->,->[letter of food on ground].


With easy_floor_use = true, if there's only one item on the ground you can just press e->,

The option was added in that commit but it was a few commits later that made it default to on instead of off.
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Post Thursday, 7th July 2016, 01:26

Re: Eat which item?

That's still kind of slower than it was before, at least for me... but I bound eat to y so I could just press yy.

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Post Thursday, 7th July 2016, 04:01

Re: Eat which item?

bind eat to ',', then? should be fine as long as you're not one of those weird people who uses ',' instead of 'g'

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Post Thursday, 7th July 2016, 06:23

Re: Eat which item?

PleasingFungus wrote:bind eat to ',', then? should be fine as long as you're not one of those weird people who uses ',' instead of 'g'


whoa hey i'm sorry but we're not the weird ones
take it easy

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Post Thursday, 7th July 2016, 10:25

Re: Eat which item?

Yeah, I was mostly bitching about how I'm used to pressing 'y' when I play Crawl, but not ','!

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Post Friday, 8th July 2016, 08:35

Re: Eat which item?

If you bind eat to y how do you move northwest?

Either you're a frenchman, or even worse, you're a numpad-user!

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Post Saturday, 9th July 2016, 01:10

Re: Eat which item?

there was a guy on mantis the other day complaining because his custom dvorak keybindings were broken

(in fairness, they weren't wrong.)
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Post Saturday, 9th July 2016, 01:53

Re: Eat which item?

genericpseudonym wrote:If you bind eat to y how do you move northwest?

Either you're a frenchman, or even worse, you're a numpad-user!
I move with
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Post Sunday, 10th July 2016, 03:42

Re: Eat which item?

Shard1697 wrote:
genericpseudonym wrote:If you bind eat to y how do you move northwest?

Either you're a frenchman, or even worse, you're a numpad-user!
I move with
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I thought I had already seen the worst life had to offer. But now I see that the world is a darker, more evil place than I could have possibly imagined.

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Post Sunday, 10th July 2016, 05:09

Re: Eat which item?

it's just wasd+other keys around that for the other directions vOv

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Post Sunday, 10th July 2016, 17:30

Re: Eat which item?

makes a h*ck of a lot more sense than vikeys, i tell you what.

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Post Sunday, 10th July 2016, 17:47

Re: Eat which item?

amalloy wrote:
[The previous interface] has the undesirable feature that typing "rd" will sometimes mean reading an item from the floor and sometimes mean reading an item from your inventory.

Actually I liked the previous behaviour better.

The current additional keypress is much more aggravating to me than the potential typo (which I never did).

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