Oh Entropy Weaver, how I hate you

[HANFGEIST]

Just what are you supposed to be? Looks like Neil Gaiman's Sandman in yellow robes. Squint a lot and you see the extra Spider Limbs. Hmm. The moth from Pedido Street Station they are not.
So they stand around and chant at you? I'm just not feeling it. Give me rust-monsters any day. Multiple corrosion attacks from mouth tentacles, fast movement, good AC. That would be fun. Not this strange monster that does not really have a DC flavour.

[dpeg]

Problems of this kind are circumvented by playing console, the way god intended.

It is never too late to repent and turn, and to learn the alphabet!

[4Hooves2Appendages]

Of course it's not too late for a different tile either.

[Rast]

Not too late to remove entropy weavers, either.

[Sar]

I thought they look cool.

[Tiktacy]

I approve of entropy weavers. They look cool, and there mechanic of corrosion as actually pretty well designed and leads to plenty of interesting situations. I give props to the person that designed it.

I mean, at least we don't have to carry around extra weapons to fight jelly's anymore.

[n1000]

fighting an entropy weaver is like fighting an old summoner: tab away and then reset the fight whenever you get unlucky. The worst is when you're fighting something easy and now it's just going to take longer. I also don't like trying to recalibrate my feelings about my character's power level due to corrosion. Slow: monsters get more actions for each action I take. Poison: I'm taking some damage...fine...-4AC/-4 Enchant? Okay I'm taking a little bit of extra damage from attacks and doing less damage (how much less? it's an annoying calculation) okay I have a good feeling about this I think...-8/-8, now what?

How does AC<0 work? Does it make any sense (what happens if a bat hits a DD with AC-20?)?

Repeatedly changing a character's power level within a fight in this way is not very fun ime

[crate]

AC<0 is the same as AC=0 for all purposes except raising it above 0.

I don't like entropy weavers much either. I would say mr of 60 is hexable enough that you can use hex wands, except orb spiders already used up all your charges so you're out of luck.

[Wahaha]

With decent damage and hp you can simply move towards orb spiders and melee them. Their kiting isn't perfect, they let you get into melee range, even in an open area. I don't bother with paralyzing orb spiders unless my character is notably weak. I used a wand of paralyze on them in two, maybe three games I think.

[Sar]

Their behavior around corners is also unlike that of regular ranged monsters, which make it easier to catch them.

[HANFGEIST]

I approve of entropy weavers. They look cool, and there mechanic of corrosion as actually pretty well designed and leads to plenty of interesting situations.

I really don't see the upside to those mechanics. It is not LoS since I get corroded in hallways with two or three enemies between me and the weaver. I'd much rather have them be forced to melee me to get the corrosion effect on me.
And actually the pic is not bad, but only if I get real close to the screen.
I have no beef with Orb Spiders at all, I think they spice up the game nicely.

[pumpyscump]

When I started playing a couple months ago, I thought the weaver was some kind of moth or butterfly. Only when I looked at this did I realize that weavers are humanoid. (and inspired me to x v it and actually read the description)

[crate]

The problem with meleeing orb spiders is that you can't actually rest while inside spider nest so the branch takes like an hour. I really don't want to make it take any longer.

I mean okay if you are a 40 ac minotaur of trog it's easy since you don't take damage, but it took my optm forever, to the point where I really would just rather do shoals. Sure, shoals might kill me, but at least I get to die and then play fun parts of crawl again that way.