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Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 06:22
by ololoev
It is usually hard to get high-end weppons without oka/trog, so you can:
2x long sword -> double sword
greatsword +2x long sword -> triple sword
2x hand axe -> lajatang
broad axe + quarterstaff +whip(to tie) -> bardiche
2x bardiche -> exec axe
morningstar + 10x dagger -> eveningstar

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 09:02
by Sprucery
Excellent, then we need a Crafting skill which determines the quality of the end product.

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 09:16
by Magipi
Crafting & cooking (just like traps & doors).

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 12:17
by ololoev
Sprucery wrote:Excellent, then we need a Crafting skill which determines the quality of the end product.

Yay, new skill!
Crawl didn't changed skill since 0.12 I think?

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 16:40
by Aean
Hmm.

Pros:
    Lets everyone get their favorite weapon in every game (provided they survive long enough)

Cons:
    Less variability from game to game
    Encourages backtracking and scumming
    Encourages stashing and inventory clutter
    Devalues item-gifting gods

It's an interesting idea, not to mention one that's been brought up roughly a million times, but somehow I don't see it as a good idea.

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 16:58
by ydeve
This is the best idea ever. You should expand it to include unrands.

Scythe + 10x ?RC = Scythe of Curses
boots + chain mail + helmet + gloves + 5x ?EA = Lear's Haulberk
=MR + hat + dragon hide = mask of the Dragon
vorpal long blade + 3x ?brandArmour = Autumn Katana
(+9) exec axe + (+3) =slaying + (+3) =slaying + 5x ?EW = Axe of Woe

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 17:44
by Lasty
Crafting is on the won't-do list.

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 22:23
by Rast
Lasty is on the thread ruiner list.

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 22:30
by dpeg
Rasty: I hope he comes last on that list!

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 22:43
by HardboiledGargoyle
The reverse probably makes more sense, look:
ololoev wrote:2x long sword <- double sword
greatsword +2x long sword <- triple sword
2x hand axe <- lajatang
broad axe + quarterstaff +whip(to tie) <- bardiche
2x bardiche <- exec axe
morningstar + 10x dagger <- eveningstar

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Thursday, 2nd June 2016, 22:49
by yesno
well that's a great idea friend but let me respond with a few very serious thoughts and criticisms, please be sure to honor them with due consideration

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Friday, 3rd June 2016, 05:53
by ololoev
ydeve wrote:This is the best idea ever. You should expand it to include unrands.

Scythe + 10x ?RC = Scythe of Curses
boots + chain mail + helmet + gloves + 5x ?EA = Lear's Haulberk
=MR + hat + dragon hide = mask of the Dragon
vorpal long blade + 3x ?brandArmour = Autumn Katana
(+9) exec axe + (+3) =slaying + (+3) =slaying + 5x ?EW = Axe of Woe

Unrands are fine, but one would have to stash shitload of jewelry for the hat of the alchemist!

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Friday, 3rd June 2016, 06:44
by ydeve
Forget hat of the alchemist.
Lasty wrote:Crafting is on the won't-do list.

There goes my dream of using the Axe of Woe in a zig.

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Friday, 3rd June 2016, 08:06
by seren
I am not in favor of Crafting, I have never seen a system that was not very tedious, or very grindy. It is often based on collecting a huge amount of junk and is a time waster.

(And it is often implemented to artificially extend the game or to encourage micro transaction)

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Friday, 3rd June 2016, 09:21
by Sprucery
I thought it was obvious that this wasn't a serious suggestion...?

Re: Craft in Crawl!

PostPosted: Friday, 3rd June 2016, 12:47
by Magipi
Sprucery wrote:I thought it was obvious that this wasn't a serious suggestion...?

Almost everybody thought so.