Win Legitimacy


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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 03:40

Win Legitimacy

I like playing flat-aptitude races and Artificers and just adapting to whatever early dungeon junk I find, but sometimes I just don't find anything all that useful in the early game and I usually die after investing XP in a +0 Sling or Mace or desperate Dagger+Stealth shenanigans or Mahkhleb Invocations or whatever.

I sometimes wonder if my wins of Ar and Wn are all just thanks to lucky rolls spawning early game weapons of Venom and other nifty finds, and the dream of early game adaptation is really just a reliance on startscumming for handy early runed items.

Perhaps I have a 6% winrate simply because roughly 6% of games spawn a weapon of venom/electricity on floors 1-3... that's the sort of thing that troubles me late at night, as I gaze at the framed and laminated printouts of my Akrasiac scores, illuminated on the trophy room wall by the flickering orange flametongues in the fireplace...
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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 03:58

Re: Win Legitimacy

Win % is the best indicator of how much you rely on luck to win. That is assuming you always try to play well and your skill level doesn't increase over time.

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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 04:13

Re: Win Legitimacy

Wahaha wrote:Win % is the best indicator of how much you rely on luck to win. That is assuming you always try to play well and your skill level doesn't increase over time.
Yeah, well, when you're assuming, you're making an ass of u and ming. Can you think of any Crawl account where those two assumptions are actually true?

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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 04:39

Re: Win Legitimacy

When I've got bad luck, I play on an alt until I can afford a live goat for ritual sacrifice. I know it's winscumming, but I have to keep my percentage up so I'm not too ashamed to give bad advice in irc.

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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 12:30

Re: Win Legitimacy

Winrate is abstract, only streaks are legit.
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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 13:28

Re: Win Legitimacy

Wahaha wrote:Win % is the best indicator of how much you rely on luck to win. That is assuming you always try to play well and your skill level doesn't increase over time.


Since there's effectively a "luck into an early Trog altar" background, I disagree.
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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 14:12

Re: Win Legitimacy

my win percentage is an indicator of how often double damage bugs get implemented in the game
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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 15:23

Re: Win Legitimacy

See, my win percentage is 98% because I only play offline except for like three online games, so you know, prove me wrong
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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 16:40

Re: Win Legitimacy

ZipZipskins wrote:See, my win percentage is 98% because I only play offline except for like three online games, so you know, prove me wrong


If you have only played three online games then your win percentage cannot be 98%. QED.

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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 20:26

Re: Win Legitimacy

Whew, and here I thought this thread would be for calling out people with illegitimate wins.
http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ ... 033612.txt
http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ ... 070257.txt
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Post Monday, 18th April 2016, 23:47

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Rast wrote:Whew, and here I thought this thread would be for calling out people with illegitimate wins.
http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ ... 033612.txt
http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ ... 070257.txt


Aren't these from when Pekalas was super bugged?
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Post Tuesday, 19th April 2016, 00:48

Re: Win Legitimacy

Wish we'd known about that for comborobin.
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Post Tuesday, 19th April 2016, 14:46

Re: Win Legitimacy

Malevolent wrote:
ZipZipskins wrote:See, my win percentage is 98% because I only play offline except for like three online games, so you know, prove me wrong


If you have only played three online games then your win percentage cannot be 98%. QED.

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this is the disgusting fartfaced online only elitism I'm talking about

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Post Tuesday, 19th April 2016, 15:01

Re: Win Legitimacy

Wahaha wrote:Win % is the best indicator of how much you rely on luck to win. That is assuming you always try to play well and your skill level doesn't increase over time.


what kind of miserable robot always tries to play well

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Post Tuesday, 19th April 2016, 15:09

Re: Win Legitimacy

beep boop

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Post Tuesday, 19th April 2016, 17:14

Re: Win Legitimacy

If it isn't a legitimate win, the crawl body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

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Post Tuesday, 19th April 2016, 18:05

Re: Win Legitimacy

Baldu3 wrote:If it isn't a legitimate win, the crawl body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

You are a terrible person. Keep up the good work!

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