AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Gallery


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Post Monday, 7th March 2016, 22:52

AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Gallery

Greetings, tavern users!

I'm from a Korean RL community called 'Roguelike gallery' which is the same community where '0 17 Korean god tier' post was made. (There are few other communities, but this one is similar with reddit's /r/roguelike).

We have throughly read your responses, and agreed that more interesting communications could be made between the two communities. Hence I post an AMA thread in tavern to gather your questions about our community, or the Korean RL culture in general.

Albeit racist jokes are quite fun, I would like to politely ask you not to make one in this thread - I wish this thread to be productive, not offensive to anyone.

Are you ready? Now ask us!
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Post Monday, 7th March 2016, 22:55

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What is your guy's criteria to rank gods?
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Post Monday, 7th March 2016, 22:56

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything)

How large is the Korean roguelike community?
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Post Monday, 7th March 2016, 23:04

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What's your general view on a regular 3-rune game length? Too long/ok/too short?

How long have you been playing? (Do you miss the Mountain/Hill Dwarves, Gnomes, Sludge/Grey/Elves, Paladins/Thieves/Reavers/Stalkers/Priests/Healers/Death Knights?)
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Post Monday, 7th March 2016, 23:09

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I'd make a racist joke but the only thing I really know about Koreans is that Starcraft is really popular there and their players are the best at it... which isn't very offensive.
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Post Monday, 7th March 2016, 23:15

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything)

What are the best & worst decisions made by the dev team in the past few versions?

Do you have feature requests? What are they?

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Post Monday, 7th March 2016, 23:24

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What do you think of the food/butchering system as it stands?
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Post Monday, 7th March 2016, 23:27

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What other roguelike games are good? What other roguelike games are popular? What roguelike games are notorious for bad stuff? DoomRL? NetHack? ADOM? Sil? ToME? Brogue?

Consider people with no experience. They play Crawl for the first time ever. What do you recommend to beginners? What is a good way to become competent? Do you socially share instructions? Do you cheat? Or, do you attempt to play without guidance?

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Post Tuesday, 8th March 2016, 14:49

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything)

I think everyone already knows this, but just to be clear, the position of the mod team is that racist jokes aren't fun and that they aren't appropriate here or anywhere else on the Tavern.

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Post Tuesday, 8th March 2016, 18:11

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

Thanks y'all for your interest. I'll post your questions in my forum for discussion and will answer back to you as soon as possible.

Lasty - DgWn/non-Dgwn win joke was a good one. Too bad most of us did not get the joke, and some actually discussed why Japaneses play demigod wanderers.

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Post Tuesday, 8th March 2016, 18:48

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

It was asked above what your community thinks are the best character combinations for new players. Which combinations are seen by expert players as the most powerful? Are these also considered to be the combinations that are most fun to play?
Won (52). Remaining (15): 5 species: Ba, Fe, Mu, Na, Op; 5 Backgrounds: AM, Wr, Su, AE, Ar; 5 gods: Jiyv, newNem, WJC, newSif, newFedh

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Post Tuesday, 8th March 2016, 19:52

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

Two developers (jpeg and dpeg) carried out two surveys with Crawl players. The results (and the questions) for the second one can be found here. All of these questions are also interesting to us for the Korean community :)

Perhaps some day someone will do this again (it is very interesting and a lot of fun, but also a lot of work). Then we should try to invite Korean explicitly. Some concrete questions:
(1) How many of the players in your community were around when that survey took place (DCSS 0.11)?
(2) How many of those even took part in the survey?
(3) How many active does your community have? (Rough estimate, don't count precisely.)

One last bit: can you ask if the creator of this amazing picture of Saint Roka is around? If so, would they allow to post it on Crawl Arts?

Many thanks for your time, gamsahamnida!

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Post Tuesday, 8th March 2016, 20:12

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

Update: I've posted a translated version of your questions in my community and the answers are filing in. Let me gather our members' opinion until tomorrow.

Lasty - so Japaneses actually have a tendency to play dgwn? I thought someone mentioned it to make a typical 'smartbutt asian' joke.

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Post Wednesday, 9th March 2016, 12:13

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

I split out the DgWn posts into another thread; let's try to keep this thread on topic for Gaius.
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Post Friday, 11th March 2016, 01:09

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

Is there a single korean account that has won all stable combos?
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Post Friday, 11th March 2016, 22:12

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

Thanks for waiting. Here are part one of gathered answers for your questions:

1. Criteria for gods?(Dynast)

Strength in early games(~3 runes), capability for extended games(~15 runes) or both.

Yred and Beogh have been popular choices among us because 3 bone dragons or 7~8 warlords can DESTROY anything before Zot.
Both TSO and Zin are great for 15 runes game.
Gozag, Pakellas and Ash are both strong in 3-runes and 15-runes games.

2. How large is Korean RL community?(Blade)

My estimations are ~100 in my community, ~500 crawl players in general, and ~1000 roguelike players in general.

3. General opinions on 3-rune game(Sprucery)

About half think it's OK, another half prefer 15-runes over 3-runes.

3-1. How long have you been playing?(Sprucery)

Numbers of players began with original Dungeon Crawl. Majority of our community started their crawl experience with Stone Soup version 0.11~0.13.

4. Best/worst decisions of developers? (chequers)

Best: removal of preservation ego and item destruction.
Worst: removal of evaporation spell, Elyvilon/Nemelex rework,

4-1. Feature requests to devs? (chequers)

Currently we're gathering opinions regarding this topic. I'll post the translation soon.

5. General opinions of food/butchering system(johlstei)

Not many opinions gathered for this question. I'll update it later.

6. Other roguelikes?(hardboiledgargoyle)

Nethack, Dwarf Fortress and Tome 4 are famous for my community. In Korean RL community in general, Fixel Dungeon, Elona, Tomenet and DoomRL are also in the list.
For roguelites, Darkest Dungeon/Sunless Sea/FTL/Binding of Isaac/Spelunky/Endless Dungeon are famous.

6-1. Advice for newbies?

1. Pick MiBe/TrBe.
2. Play on webcrawl and get advices.

6-2.

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Post Saturday, 12th March 2016, 00:49

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

what does this say

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Post Saturday, 12th March 2016, 04:47

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

Elona is not a rogue-like game. That is a rogue-like-like game.

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Post Saturday, 12th March 2016, 15:23

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pubby wrote:what does this say

haha, that's mean...
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Post Saturday, 12th March 2016, 21:28

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

yred, please dont take this the wrong way, but that laced jacket thing is a little too small for you

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Post Saturday, 12th March 2016, 22:11

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

duvessa wrote:yred, please dont take this the wrong way, but that laced jacket thing is a little too small for you

Weird, i dont even know who that chick is really supposed to be, all i know is this is the first time i see a picture of her where she has a dress(or any other piece of clothing) under that jacket.
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Post Sunday, 13th March 2016, 18:47

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

Pretty sure that's Byakuren Hijiri, who is far from my first choice of touhous to cast as Yred but still somehow fitting.
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Post Sunday, 13th March 2016, 21:16

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Thanks for the replies!
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Post Monday, 14th March 2016, 01:04

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

Are there any questions the Korean community has for us?

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Post Monday, 14th March 2016, 03:13

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

archaeo wrote:Are there any questions the Korean community has for us?


Thank you, I wanted to ask the same thing

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Post Monday, 11th April 2016, 04:11

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Backup

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Post Thursday, 21st April 2016, 14:18

Re: AMCA(ask my community anything) - Korean Roguelike Galle

Kind of offtopic, but is there a way to disable the Korean translation on CWZ webtiles?

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