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Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Wednesday, 22nd November 2017, 14:05
by dassem
Best store ever? At the end of Orc:
Welcome to Mery's Jewellery Emporium! What would you like to do?
a - 618 gold the amulet of the Air {Inacc +Fly rElec EV+5 RMsl}
b - 273 gold a +3 ring of protection (unknown)
c - 390 gold an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit (unknown)
d - 990 gold the ring "Jaheups" {Wiz rPois rF++ rC++}
e - 390 gold an uncursed amulet of magic regeneration
f - 744 gold the amulet "Ugi Oqon" {RegenMP rPois rN+ MR+ Str+3}
g - 325 gold an uncursed ring of protection from cold (unknown)
h - 260 gold an uncursed ring of positive energy (unknown)
i - 260 gold an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
j - 535 gold a +5 amulet of reflection

And died 2 minutes later before saving up enough money. :-(
Got complacent lobbing fireballs at a swimming frost giant, thinking the steam would finish him quickly. About 6 fireballs later, I learned that if you are flying over water, then bolt of cold can generate freezing clouds, which will kill you far faster. Damn.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Wednesday, 22nd November 2017, 20:21
by njvack
dassem wrote:Got complacent lobbing fireballs at a swimming frost giant, thinking the steam would finish him quickly. About 6 fireballs later, I learned that if you are flying over water, then bolt of cold can generate freezing clouds, which will kill you far faster. Damn.

That is, unless you had been wearing
d - 990 gold the ring "Jaheups" {Wiz rPois rF++ rC++}

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Saturday, 25th November 2017, 13:12
by stoneychips
Something useful from the Abyss :lol:

a - the +3 scimitar of Exquisite Death (weapon) {pain, rPois rF+ rN+}
(You found it on level 2 of the Abyss)

In the hands of one skilled in necromantic magic, it inflicts extra damage
on living creatures.

It protects you from fire.
It protects you from poison.
It protects you from negative energy.

This has been awesome for a gnoll in Snake!

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Wednesday, 20th December 2017, 18:28
by Magipi
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b - the +12 longbow of Baojuwn (weapon) {speed, rElec rN+ Dex-2}

This was a Trog gift, at 0 bows skill, in Orc.

The boss later gifted me Piercer, and it seems kinda mediocre compared to this :D

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Saturday, 23rd December 2017, 04:50
by ichbins
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 28566 | Snake:2  | Identified the amulet "Febioh" {Harm *Drain Fragile MR+ Int+5 Slay+5} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Snake Pit)


Hmmm... I've never used harm so I don't really know what to think of it. Standard troll of oka wearing faith, I have already a (storm dragon) armour thus can acquire jewellery, with that amulet I'd have +10 slaying.

thoughts?

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Friday, 29th December 2017, 04:56
by stoneychips
The +10 giant club "Ipsal" (weapon) {crush, rElec rC+ Dex+2}
(Trog gifted it to you on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)

It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.

It affects your dexterity (+2).
It protects you from cold.
It insulates you from electricity.

... Happy mid-game Ogre, so far!

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Friday, 29th December 2017, 05:01
by stoneychips
ichbins wrote:
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 28566 | Snake:2  | Identified the amulet "Febioh" {Harm *Drain Fragile MR+ Int+5 Slay+5} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Snake Pit)


Hmmm... I've never used harm so I don't really know what to think of it. Standard troll of oka wearing faith, I have already a (storm dragon) armour thus can acquire jewellery, with that amulet I'd have +10 slaying.

thoughts?

Bit late? But... Personally I would probably try it, given you have heavy armor and it'd be a whole lot of slaying. Whether or not to start using it in a place like Snake is kinda a tossup, though. It's kind of "double all your bets."

It would feel safest if you have some decent ranged ability? (Would be great with lots of giant rocks or javelins, which Oka should give sooner or later - and particularly if you've trained up Throwing.) And maybe if you have some other solid MR as well. Getting constricted or paralyzed with it for long on the other hand is obviously, a bad thing.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Monday, 1st January 2018, 12:39
by ichbins
Yeah, I used it and won the game but actually don't think I'd do it again. Felt pretty unsafe at times and got very low at health a few times...

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Friday, 5th January 2018, 08:30
by stoneychips
Don't think I need it on this character, but certainly dramatic...

The +12 Quarterstaff of Outrage {holy, *Rage, rC+, rN+, MP+9}

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Friday, 5th January 2018, 09:39
by Shtopit
stoneychips wrote:Don't think I need it on this character, but certainly dramatic...

The +12 Quarterstaff of Outrage {holy, *Rage, rC+, rN+, MP+9}


Between name and attributes, it might as well be a Fixedart :D

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Friday, 5th January 2018, 09:41
by VeryAngryFelid
Stupid question from non-native English speaker: is word "outrage" completely unrelated to word "rage"?

Edit. Stupid question indeed. When one cannot keep calm and rage is out, we can get an outrage.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Friday, 5th January 2018, 11:17
by Shtopit
It's a funny case. Both are actually French words. Rage comes from "rabies". Outrage comes from "outre", which comes from "ultra" = beyond, "ultraticum" being something by which someone oversteps his boundaries. So they actually aren't related.
I've never heard "outrage" meaning "indignation" outside of English, in Italian (oltraggio) and French it means an insult or grave offence, especially to someone's honour.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Friday, 5th January 2018, 21:21
by njvack
There's also "nutrage" which is a status effect from eating one of these:

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Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Tuesday, 16th January 2018, 04:01
by Thalfon
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46335 | IceCv    | Identified the +6 lajatang of Deflation {speed, *Contam rElec Str+6}

Located in Snake:3 ice cave on my DrWr.

On one hand, I'm already holding a +9 eveningstar of flaming that I'm trained for.

But on the other hand, I'm worshipping Ashenzari... >_>

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Wednesday, 17th January 2018, 00:04
by stoneychips
The +7 quarterstaff "Ketzeps"

{ drain, *Rage *Drain +Blink Dex+5 }

Talk about psycho? :evil:

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Wednesday, 17th January 2018, 05:58
by CanOfWorms
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 98373 | Slime:5  | Identified the ring of the Thirsty Wars {rElec Stlth+} (You found it on level 5 of the Pits of Slime)

found on a vp

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Wednesday, 17th January 2018, 12:48
by Malevolent
Since this is probably a better thread to post this than where I posted it yesterday...

I decided to request a shop from Gozag on my MuMo before going for my first rune, and managed to buy this:

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C - +14 fire dragon scales of Caimn {rF++ rC- rCorr}


This is a hexer-stabber-ice mage hybrid of sorts BTW, who also found this early on:

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a - +9 dagger {protect, *Rage Str+3 Dex+3}

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Sunday, 21st January 2018, 17:20
by VeryAngryFelid
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 +6 faerie dragon scales {rF+ rC+ Regen+ rCorr}


Still not useful to MiFi with +9 scales of the Dragon King {rPois rF+ rC+ MR+}

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Sunday, 21st January 2018, 23:17
by stickyfingers
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 g - the +19 crystal plate armour "Gymej" (worn) {*Corrode Str+2 Stlth+}
   (Xom gifted it to you on level 8 of the Dungeon)   

#goodxom

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Thursday, 25th January 2018, 02:16
by Malevolent
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Identified the +13 plate armour of the Echidna {rElec rC+ Regen+ Str-5} (You acquired it on level 3 of the Crypt)


Now I have to figure out if there's any hope my Tengu blaster caster with 17 strength (before equipping the armor) can ever use this and still cast high-level spells with any decent failrate... Doesn't look too likely right now, sadly. There isn't even any Wizardry gear in this game yet that I've found...

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Thursday, 25th January 2018, 13:38
by Nino
stickyfingers wrote:
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 g - the +19 crystal plate armour "Gymej" (worn) {*Corrode Str+2 Stlth+}
   (Xom gifted it to you on level 8 of the Dungeon)   

#goodxom

a toast to god gifts

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 17396 | Orc:2    | Identified the +19 crystal plate armour "Hyull" {*Contam Str+6} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Thursday, 25th January 2018, 15:56
by MainiacJoe
This gave my SpEE^Ash hungerless Iron Shot.

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ring of Equivalence {rF+ MP+9 Str+5 Int+8} (curse)

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Saturday, 27th January 2018, 19:36
by Thalfon
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 W - the amulet "Janudil" (around neck) {Spirit rN+++ Int+6 Dex-2}
   (You took it off a deep elf demonologist on level 2 of the Depths)

 n - the +2 helmet of Grottiness (worn) {+Fly Str+4 Int-4 Dex+8}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)


In my MfSk run. Between the helmet and amulet I have a net +4/2/6 to my stats, spirit (which freed up my cloak slot, so that -2 dex is balanced even further by getting a +2 cloak), and maxed rN for kicks.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Wednesday, 31st January 2018, 22:37
by Alphaeus
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s - the -9 shield of Ru's Hope {Int+3}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).


Me: "Oooo and artefact shield for my troll on D:5. That might be great for my defenses!"
Also me: "Wtf. Good thing I have scrolls of remove curse [it was cursed, too]."

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Thursday, 1st February 2018, 01:32
by Krag
A shop on Orc:1 had this
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k - the ring "Qoom" (right hand) {+Inv rElec rF++ rC+ Str+3 Dex+4}

It almost spells doom right there, so I was "logically" afraid of dying a horrible and stupid death if I bought it, but I did overcome my fears and got it.

:o

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd February 2018, 12:40
by stoneychips
Here's a worst: The amulet "Lyuffroff"

{ Inacc, Str+3, Dex -5, SInv } :o

About the most ill-suited white amulet for a felid one could imagine! The name must be the sound you make upon identifying it.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Monday, 5th February 2018, 08:36
by stoneychips
But then there is the amulet "Purahuz"...

{ RegenMP rElec rF+ Slay+3 }

Which makes kitty has purrs!

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th February 2018, 15:04
by Alphaeus
Watched a friend with a long-blades minotaur fighter of TSO find The Zealot's Sword on D:5.

RNGesus loves him, this he knows.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th February 2018, 16:32
by nago
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the +5 pair of boots "Raqazxuu" (worn) {rElec}


A curiosity: would you use this, or a pair of boot of runnings, got from the same antique shop?
With a Gn^Gozag having swiftness, blink and a good amount of ?blinking?

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th February 2018, 18:37
by njvack
+5 boots.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th February 2018, 18:39
by Alphaeus
nago wrote:
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the +5 pair of boots "Raqazxuu" (worn) {rElec}


A curiosity: would you use this, or a pair of boot of runnings, got from the same antique shop?
With a Gn^Gozag having swiftness, blink and a good amount of ?blinking?


Generally these. If you were a DEEE^Vehumet, sure, use the boots of running to kite...but even then, this AC would be valuable. So yeah, these.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Thursday, 8th February 2018, 21:31
by Sprucery
From my latest winner (GnBe):
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the ring of Righamui (left hand) {rElec rF+++ Str+3 Dex-3 Slay+6}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Depths)

Too bad it appeared so late. But an excellent piece for Zot anyway.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Saturday, 10th February 2018, 23:19
by stoneychips
Outside Crazy Yiuf's vault on D:4:

+8 Mace of Law { flame rF+ Str+3 Dex+4 Stlth+ }


Inside the same vault on the floor:

+9 Mace of the Big Fish { crush +Blink Int+4 }


... Makes a very happy ogre wanderer with some spellcasting!

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Sunday, 11th February 2018, 02:41
by Alphaeus
Best and worst...

Oh, and btw...this is all D:4
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D:6 horde of ogres and ants did this character in.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Sunday, 11th February 2018, 16:05
by stoneychips
Amulet of Suspicion

{ Faith rElec rF+ MR+}

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Thursday, 15th February 2018, 01:16
by Alphaeus
Scroll of Acquirement on Shoals:2, just hit XL 15.

Get Wyrmbane.

Am playing Gnoll of Chei, so everything is usefull.

This will be a good game.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Friday, 16th February 2018, 18:56
by Eyesburn
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+8 great sword of the Shallot {slice, +Blink rF+ rC+ MR+}
found on L:2, carried me through whole game :)

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Saturday, 17th February 2018, 09:23
by Fingolfin
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the -6 buckler of the Princeling {+Blink MR+ Str+4 Dex-5}

Man that sucks !

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Sunday, 18th February 2018, 09:36
by Fingolfin
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the ring of Happiness {rF++ rC++ Int+3 Stlth+}

Yup, makes me happy !

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Saturday, 24th February 2018, 22:22
by Alphaeus
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he +9 rapier of the Curious People {vamp, +Blink Str+3}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts no extra harm, but heals its wielder when it wounds a living
   foe.
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It lets you blink.


Run spriggans for awhile, but get tired of not finding good gear for them to use in melee so I switch to Trolls.

And then my troll finds this jewel.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Monday, 26th February 2018, 08:33
by nago
The good: on early ice cave on a mace guy
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+8 great mace "Yrghoik" {speed, Str+9 Int+3}


the bad: the guy is an Ogre so at some point he'll abandon that sweet stick

the weird: same guy bought the cloak of thief on D:15 for mere 361 gold coin (go base type on shop, go!)

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Monday, 26th February 2018, 08:37
by VeryAngryFelid
nago wrote:The good: on early ice cave on a mace guy
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+8 great mace "Yrghoik" {speed, Str+9 Int+3}


the bad: the guy is an Ogre so at some point he'll abandon that sweet stick

the weird: same guy bought the cloak of thief on D:15 for mere 361 gold coin (go base type on shop, go!)


Make sure to run fsim. I suspect the great mace can be better than any GSC unless the latter has speed too. Don't forget Str+9 is kind of extra slaying which will be even better with speed brand.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Monday, 26th February 2018, 19:25
by nago
You were right:
26 base str, 20 fighting, 22 m&f against a stone giant:

+9 flaming gsc

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           AvHitDam | MaxDam | Accuracy | AvDam | AvTime | AvSpeed | AvEffDam
Attacking:     34,1 |    143 |      93% |  31,8 |    70  |  1,43 |     45,4
Defending:     21,6 |     45 |      76% |  16,5 |   100  |  1,00 |     16,5


dat mace

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           AvHitDam | MaxDam | Accuracy | AvDam | AvTime | AvSpeed | AvEffDam
Attacking:     40,5 |    182 |      92% |  37,6 |    70  |  1,43 |     53,7
Defending:     21,4 |     45 |      76% |  16,3 |   100  |  1,00 |     16,3

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Monday, 26th February 2018, 20:20
by Siegurt
nago wrote:You were right:
26 base str, 20 fighting, 22 m&f against a stone giant:

+9 flaming gsc

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           AvHitDam | MaxDam | Accuracy | AvDam | AvTime | AvSpeed | AvEffDam
Attacking:     34,1 |    143 |      93% |  31,8 |    70  |  1,43 |     45,4
Defending:     21,6 |     45 |      76% |  16,5 |   100  |  1,00 |     16,5


dat mace

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           AvHitDam | MaxDam | Accuracy | AvDam | AvTime | AvSpeed | AvEffDam
Attacking:     40,5 |    182 |      92% |  37,6 |    70  |  1,43 |     53,7
Defending:     21,4 |     45 |      76% |  16,3 |   100  |  1,00 |     16,3

Why do both of those FSims have the same avSpeed/AvTime, are you sure you fSimmed the right weapon?

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Tuesday, 27th February 2018, 04:26
by Thalfon
O - ring "Guxaurad" {rC++ rN+ MR+ Dex+2 SInv}
F - ring "Xeap" {rPois AC+3 Str+7 Dex-2}


Rings of easy inventory management. Kinda silly finding these on a Qazlal run, though I'm sure not complaining about the AC/Str ring.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Tuesday, 27th February 2018, 08:20
by nago
Siegurt wrote:Why do both of those FSims have the same avSpeed/AvTime, are you sure you fSimmed the right weapon?


Yup I fsimmed something wrong, thanks for your correction. I'd say the two weapons are kinda equivalent in most realistic situation (gsc hit harder so is better against high AC target, great mace hit faster so probably it's better against high EV target).

great mace

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           AvHitDam | MaxDam | Accuracy | AvDam | AvTime | AvSpeed | AvEffDam
Attacking:     23,6 |    102 |      92% |  21,8 |    47  |  2,15 |     46,5
Defending:     21,4 |     45 |      77% |  16,6 |   100  |  1,00 |     16,6


+9 flaming gsc
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           AvHitDam | MaxDam | Accuracy | AvDam | AvTime | AvSpeed | AvEffDam
Attacking:     34,1 |    155 |      92% |  31,5 |    70  |  1,43 |     45,0
Defending:     21,6 |     45 |      77% |  16,6 |   100  |  1,00 |     16,6

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Thursday, 1st March 2018, 20:01
by tankra
S - +22 crystal plate armor of Padedip {rC- MR+ Regen+ rCorr}


Pretty sure this is the best armor I have ever (or will ever) see. From a scroll of acquirement, no less.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Thursday, 1st March 2018, 22:54
by Skrybe
LearnDB wrote:The probability that a randart CPA is +23 (the max possible) is exactly 101/112500.

Almost there!

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd March 2018, 01:15
by tankra
All right, now I am sure I will never see a better armor.

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

PostPosted: Saturday, 3rd March 2018, 23:07
by tabstorm
Found this: +14 crystal plate armour "Jaang" {rF++ Str+2 Int+3}

i was using glaciate in this with a naga of kiku->chei, it was pretty neat.