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when I stab a dude for 2/3 HP and he blinks/teleports, it is kinda annoying

Ah. But if you always stab a dude for 3/3 HP, he can't blink/teleport. You don't want to have a 2/3rds dead dude next to you anyway. Gives you a chance to run away. If he's not dead, you failed - need to escape!

jwoodward48ss wrote:the best

unless you need to unwield

then the worst

but why would you ever need to unwield?

Very large strength stat drain?

Code:: B - amulet of the Stallion {rF++ rC++ Regen+ SInv}

Hello? What is this? The most perfect amulet ever?

Malevolent wrote:
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B - amulet of the Stallion {rF++ rC++ Regen+ SInv}

Hello? What is this? The most perfect amulet ever?

Ride it to victory

groan

Code:: +10 morningstar of Sulphur {freeze, *Corrode Fragile rF+++ Str+4}

So close there, Crawl. So very close.

and into wrote:
Malevolent wrote:
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B - amulet of the Stallion {rF++ rC++ Regen+ SInv}

Hello? What is this? The most perfect amulet ever?

Ride it to victory

Done. Funny thing is - the SInv was actually useless to my Formicid self, yet the regen and the resistances still made it far better than any other amulet I had ever found in terms of utility.

...formicids get SInv? I thought they just had senseMonsters.

Indeed they do. I play nothing but dwants these days and can confirm. It comes with antennae 3.

I just found on the 8th level of the dungeon, on my DEWz:

The ring "Reog" (Wiz +Fly rElec rPois rCold)

...not saying it's the best artifact ever, persay, and sure, different builds/species would benefit more, but... it still feels like a difference maker, especially this early and with the less-than-stellar finds I've gotten!

Code:: ring "Zouluzug" {*Contam +Blink rPois rC++ Slay+4}

OMG, it causes contamination when I take it off!

ichbins wrote:
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ring "Zouluzug" {*Contam +Blink rPois rC++ Slay+4}

OMG, it causes contamination when I take it off!

"There is no Zuul, there is only Zug Zug!"

Code:: +4 ring mail of Loas {rElec rF+ rC+ MR Int+3}

a - the +12 scimitar "Uhailuish" (weapon) {elec, rF+ rC+ Str+4}

near-ideal halfling weapon

Code:: h - the +2 rapier of Inconvenience (weapon) {flame, *Confuse +Rage Str+8 Int-5}

Found as a summoner. Name says it all

Code:: +0 ring mail of Jugh {-Cast rC- MP+9 Dex+6}

Edit: Nice mail for a DeCj.

Edit2: Found these gorgeous pair of gloves on my DeCj

Code:: +3 pair of gloves of Uskayaw's Whim {MR+ MP+9 Dex+4 Slay-4}

Edit3: Inb4 Skyrim (Oblivion Strong)

Code:: the cursed +0 helmet of Oblivion {Str+5}

Code:: the +10 rapier of Causality (weapon) {elec, *Rage Str+4} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)

This was on a GrFe, found alongside some other pretty great stuff like a D:2 Akashic Record. It was pretty amazing, allowing me to oneshot or twoshot most of the early Dungeon enemies. Sadly because I'm still getting used to pure Caster gameplay (I've played a ton of SpEn but they use casting to boost their melee, rather than being pure blasters) I splatted this one on Grum's wolves. I had a wand of hasting and everything I should've used... silly me.

Try a GrEE^Veh. Or a GrCj^Veh. They're resilient and powerful, and let you ignore quite a few elements.

Code:: the +10 plate armour "Himaedakh" (worn) {-Cast MR- Str+10 Stlth+}.

Behold, the Trog armor!

It's perfect! Except for stealth, it all makes sense! -Cast doesn't matter, MR- can easily be overcome with Trog's Hand in all relevant situations, Str+10 will give you ridiculous boosts when combined with berserk, and Stealth... doesn't matter. I guess it makes it so that you have a 1% chance of escaping Boris before he notices you, rather than a 0.1% chance?

Aren't stats not that important? That armor doesn't even give any resists.

You kidding me? i won the game with that shit!(i had already maxed resists so i just wanted the AC)

But +12 gda will give 4 more ac and a bit more gdr. Also, aren't stats useless?

Stats are not useless. Especially when compared to GDR, which you should basically always ignore.

A bunch of Str will help a lot with plate's dodging penalty, and will give a good increase in damage.

arandomperson12 wrote:But +12 gda will give 4 more ac and a bit more gdr. Also, aren't stats useless?

Yeah, and if i had 13 enchant armor scrolls id be sure to get it, unfortunately the game only spawned 3.

Stats are certainly not useless. As someone that frequently turns high-int casting backgrounds into armoured melee bruisers, I can attest to the difference a lower strength stat can make compared to a Be or a Fi. It might not be the most important thing to have by a long shot, but it does have an effect. That plate is golden for a Trogite IMO, and as long as I had at least rF from some other source I'd wear it over any normal GDA, haha. That's just me.

Oka just gifted me this beauty: the +5 pearl dragon armour of Servitude (worn) {+Blink rN+ Slay+5}. It's not the *best* randart ever generated, but damn is it good. It also demonstrates that Oka is more capable of gifting very cool and useful items than he is sometimes given credit for. He's also given me a randart battleaxe in the same game, but that one's nothing worth writing home about and indeed I'm using a +2 flaming example over it.

I could go on a bit of a tangent about Oka's gifts vs. acquirement. I've heard many folks give him flak for dropping trash on your head, but after playing a long series of games with him I've become comparatively much more disdainful of the latter. The scrolls have been every bit as inconsistent and occasionally useless as the gifts, if not more so.

The value!

Bought the ring of Iteph {rF+++ rC++ MP+9 AC+2 Str-4} for 1038 gold pieces

Bought the +8 chain mail of Uhuotos {rElec rPois MR+++ Str-4} for 256 gold pieces

I'm not about to buy it since I'm playing a GrEE^Veh but that's pretty funny artifact. Since there's no anti-foo brand in this game, it lets you fly instead so you can go whack the giant in the face. :lol:

Seems like an OK weapon for a GrEE...

Sar wrote:Seems like an OK weapon for a GrEE...

Well I don't need it because I've got spells. And also a staff of energy. Though I guess I could use it at some point if I feel like going extended, which since this is the furthest I've ever gotten with a pure caster, I probably won't.

Code:: the -12 large shield "Keskeupn" {*Corrode rPois rN+}

Clarification: I didn't find this, I was watching Demise AU's videos and saw him find this gem. Here's a shield that can nuke your SH and, if you fight long enough, your AC as well!

Malevolent wrote:
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the -12 large shield "Keskeupn" {*Corrode rPois rN+}

"is that a acid blob attached to your hand?"

Malevolent wrote:
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the -12 large shield "Keskeupn" {*Corrode rPois rN+}

Clarification: I didn't find this, I was watching Demise AU's videos and saw him find this gem. Here's a shield that can nuke your SH and, if you fight long enough, your AC as well!

Clearly you should use this for Spider so you can have rPois.

Code:: the ring "Binimet" {rC+++ rN+ Str-2 SInv}

Now that's what I call a resist cold ring.

Too bad I've already got two pips of rC from mutations and gear.

Code:: the cursed -5 buckler of Hopscotch {+Fly rC+ MR+ Slay-4}

0 SH despite good dex, but it lets me fly!

stickyfingers wrote:
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the cursed -5 buckler of Hopscotch {+Fly rC+ MR+ Slay-4}

0 SH despite good dex, but it lets me fly!

The fact that it's called of Hopscotch makes me imagine it's a shield given to trainees at a school, so they can play around on the playground without hurting themselves or each other. It's meant to make them think they're cool for having a shield while making them easy to pin down if they need to be by the adults.

Lotsa of aux-slot resistances in this D:8 shop item.

Code:: the +2 cloak of the Accordion {rElec rPois rC+ Stlth+} (425 gold)

Code:: p - the ring of Xom's Malicious Joy {rF+++ rC- rN+ Str+6}

Sounds fun

Edit:

Code:: m - the +18 crystal plate armour "Reablyutt" {rF++ rCorr Str+4 Int-3}

WTF!?

Found also in the same game

Code:: +15 Maxwell's patent armour {-Cast -Tele rElec MR+ rCorr}

I think my crystal plate is better. :mrgreen:

amulet "Doxaoj" {Dismiss +Blink rC+ MP+9 Int+7}

Interesting mix for DgTm on D7, I guess crawl wants me to use that book of fire which I found earlier. Crawl, please give me a ring of fire to make me sure.

Code:: P - the ring of Fokhluiz (right hand) {rF+++ rC+ rN++}

Sweet resistances

Code:: 63796 | Depths:4 | Found Ummi's Armour Shoppe. 63819 | Depths:4 | Bought the -2 hat of the Alchemist {rElec rPois rF+ rC+ rN+ MR+ rMut rCorr} for 613 gold pieces ... 65972 | Depths:5 | Got a twisted hat {god gift} 65973 | Depths:5 | Identified the -6 hat of Umext {rF+} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 5 of the Depths)

not content with bombarding my bowman with slings, oka decided to get creative in trolling me

Queen Cassie wrote:
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the +10 rapier of Causality (weapon) {elec, *Rage Str+4} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)

This was on a GrFe, found alongside some other pretty great stuff like a D:2 Akashic Record. It was pretty amazing, allowing me to oneshot or twoshot most of the early Dungeon enemies. Sadly because I'm still getting used to pure Caster gameplay (I've played a ton of SpEn but they use casting to boost their melee, rather than being pure blasters) I splatted this one on Grum's wolves. I had a wand of hasting and everything I should've used... silly me.

I feel like a character who finds a +10 rapier of elec on D:4 immediately stops being a caster and starts being a rapier fighter. Unless they're unfortunate enough to be playing a felid.

*Rage would prevent me from using that rapier. *Rage is more likely to trigger with low base damage weapon because you attack more times.

*Rage would prevent you from using a +10 rapier of elec on D:4???

Yes. I mean I would use it only in situations when I don't care (or probably where I even want) berserking.
I mean I am not going to die without that rapier and that rapier can kill me in some situations so it is strictly bad for me as default weapon

Code:: a - the +10 glaive of Overwhelming Force (weapon) {venom, MR+ Str+8 SInv}

Apropos randart from Trog!

and *rage early on ins't *so* deadly for a support weapon. Sure you can't use as main tool of offence, but in a secure environment it isn't so bad

Sandman25 wrote:*Rage would prevent me from using that rapier. *Rage is more likely to trigger with low base damage weapon because you attack more times.

What the.... hell....?

*gets +10 elec rapier on d:2* me: Why isn't there a super tab key to just win the game?

*gets +10 elec rapier on d:2* Sandman25: But what if the rage procs????

goodcoolguy wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:*Rage would prevent me from using that rapier. *Rage is more likely to trigger with low base damage weapon because you attack more times.

What the.... hell....?

*gets +10 elec rapier on d:2* me: Why isn't there a super tab key to just win the game?

*gets +10 elec rapier on d:2* Sandman25: But what if the rage procs????

Well, I don't remember ever dying as FE on D2 so why should I risk using that *Rage?
I bet you love mutation roulette.

Sandman25 wrote:I bet you love mutation roulette.

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