Best/Worst Artifacts


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Post Wednesday, 2nd March 2011, 05:29

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a - the +1,+7 quick blade of Ungoat (weapon) {god gift, flame, rPois}
(Trog gifted it to you on level 11 of the Dungeon)
It emits flame when wielded, causing extra injury to most foes and up to
double damage against particularly susceptible opponents. Big, fiery blades
are also staple armaments of hydra-hunters.
It protects you from poison.

My second God gift this game. I fought my way down to d9 with naught but Ijyb's +2,+1 elven dagger (not a brand on any kind of short sword) and I was starting to worry about my ability to do damage when I got my first gift, a mediocre randart short sword. Then, as I start to worry about finding the lair, and find d:11 filled with bees, Trog gives me this. I'm now free to tackle all the bees, spiny frogs, and hydrae in the world without fear. Thank you Trog. I love you so much. I'm so sorry about my dalliance with Lucy. Take me back baby! *cue horrifying spriggan on rage god makeout sound effects*

danr wrote:My current HaHu has the sling "Punk" and the Captain's Cutlass. Can't really get much better than those for a SBl / Slings user.

That's some nice fixedarts. Praise Trog! (I assume).
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Post Wednesday, 2nd March 2011, 06:28

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Okawaru, actually. He also gave me the ratskin cloak and a total of about 60 steel bullets.

Here's the full description of all the artifacts I've got going right now on this HaHu:

a - the +6,+7 Captain's cutlass (weapon) {speed, Dam+3}
(You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)
b - the +9,+12 sling "Punk" {god gift, frost, rC+}
(Okawaru gifted it to you on level 2 of the Swamp)
F - the +5,+8 sling of Fragile Peace {venom, +Blink Str+3 Int+1}
(You took it off a vault guard on level 8 of the Vaults)
q - the +2 pair of boots of the Assassin (worn) {+Inv Dex+3 Stlth++}
(You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
v - the +3 robe of Clouds (worn) {+Lev rElec}
(You took it off a wizard in The Chambers of Frampyj the Cloud Mage)
L - the +1 ratskin cloak (worn) {god gift, rPois rN+ Dex-1 Int-1}
(Okawaru gifted it to you on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
J - the +1 pair of gloves of the New World (worn) {+Inv}
(You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)

I was pretty pumped when I got those gloves, but now they are the lamest piece of armour I have and the +Inv is redundant. Interestingly only two of those artefacts are god gifts.

To round it out, my remaining armour slots:
M - a +2 shield of reflection (worn)
N - a +2 wizard hat of intelligence (worn)


And here's why I'm preferring Okawaru to Trog:
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 Your Spells              Type           Power        Success   Level  Hunger
a - Magic Dart            Conj           ####.        Excellent   1    None
b - Apportation           Tloc           ####......   Excellent   1    None
c - Swiftness             Air/Chrm       #####.....   Excellent   2    None
d - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          Excellent   2    None
e - Repel Missiles        Air/Chrm       #####.....   Excellent   2    None
f - Mephitic Cloud        Pois/Air/Conj  ####......   Excellent   3    Choko
g - Conjure Flame         Fire/Conj      ####.....    Great       3    Choko
h - Berserker Rage        Chrm           N/A          Excellent   3    Choko
i - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ####......   Great       3    Choko
j - Abjuration            Summ           ####......   Great       3    Choko
k - Flight                Air/Chrm       #####.....   Great       4    Honeycomb
l - Control Teleport      Chrm/Tloc      ####......   Very Good   4    Honeycomb

Also - a charged up wand of healing, and a charged up wand of hasting, and a few wands of teleportation.

And of course Okawaru's heroism and finesse, although I've lost finesse twice now - once due to stupidly using summon butterflies as meat shields against a centaur pack, and once by test-id'ing an amulet of faith. But I have enough other sources of haste and speed that that's okay.

Curiously though I have not found any artefact jewellery worth keeping. The only artefact ring I found was something like MUT Dex-6 +Lev. My only real weakness is in resistances, but I can put on at least one level of each resistance if needed.

I might just make it out of Zot this time!
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Post Wednesday, 2nd March 2011, 14:14

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I just found this on the floor:

The +1 Ring Mail of Dyspraxia {rElec rF++ rC++ MR}

If I wasn't an XL12 SEEE of Vehumet, I probably wouldn't be crying like a little girl right now :P
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Post Wednesday, 2nd March 2011, 14:34

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joellercoaster wrote:I just found this on the floor:

The +1 Ring Mail of Dyspraxia {rElec rF++ rC++ MR}

If I wasn't an XL12 SEEE of Vehumet, I probably wouldn't be crying like a little girl right now :P

Vehumet's wizardry bonus is good enough that it should be able to overcome the casting penalty from ring mail. My last couple of Vehumetians have tromped around in swamp dragon armour with little trouble.

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Post Wednesday, 2nd March 2011, 18:51

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y - the +2,+6 trident of Proximity {pierce, Noisy +Blink +Rage +Inv rF+ Stlth++}
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It makes noises.
It makes you much more stealthy.

Hmm stealthy noises? "You hear someone sneaking around" :-D
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Post Wednesday, 2nd March 2011, 19:40

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Stormfox wrote:Vehumet's wizardry bonus is good enough that it should be able to overcome the casting penalty from ring mail.


Holy crap, you're right.

Stone Arrow and Petrify are both still at Excellent... now excuse me, I have a bigroom full of eels I need to go back and have a word with!
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Post Wednesday, 2nd March 2011, 19:59

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The evasion penalty from ring mail is only -2 anyway, so you should be able to overcome that with a relatively small skill in armor (if you wanted to reduce the hit even further.) That ringmail is AWESOME!
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Post Wednesday, 2nd March 2011, 20:08

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Rafa wrote: It makes noises.
It makes you much more stealthy.


"Shh!"
"No, YOU ssh!"
"Listen, they'll HEAR us!"
"ONE MORE WORD OUT OF YOU AND... oh, bugger."
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Post Saturday, 5th March 2011, 03:13

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I just got the +6 shield of the gong from Okawaru. This thing cracks me up.

GOOOOONNNNGG!!

I know it won't last me the whole game, but for now the amusement value is well worth it.
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Post Thursday, 10th March 2011, 03:59

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V - the +0 robe of Paranoia {MR}
(You took it off an orc on level 15 of the Dungeon)
It increases your resistance to enchantments.

...it's a +0 robe of MR. That can never be enchanted. Well, that's useful.
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Post Thursday, 10th March 2011, 13:02

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Haha I got the same damn robe yesterday, but called the Robe of the Shoals.

Super handy, that one.
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Post Thursday, 10th March 2011, 19:40

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Trog gave my MDBe a +5,+10 Executioner's Axe of Slicing (rF+ and something else). That was a good pillow opener.

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Post Saturday, 12th March 2011, 19:05

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All this in one game:

the +3 robe "Acim" (worn) {rElec rC+}
(You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
It protects you from cold.
It insulates you from electricity.

the +2,+9 hammer of Slow Death (weapon) {crush, rF++ Dex+3}
(You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
It affects your dexterity (+3).
It greatly protects you from fire.

the +3,+6 dagger of Turmoil {speed, rN+ MR Str+2 Int+2 Stlth++}
(You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
Attacks with this weapon take half as long as usual.
It affects your strength (+2).
It affects your intelligence (+2).
It protects you from negative energy.
It increases your resistance to enchantments.
It makes you much more stealthy.

I had a few other good finds in the same game but I stashed them so I don't have the stats anymore.

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Post Sunday, 13th March 2011, 00:33

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Woot for that robe, this is quite awesome!
The weapons are in fact not that great (although nice!) - but the hammer sounds like a true apropos randart (see learndb) :)
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Post Monday, 14th March 2011, 03:16

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P - the ring of the Tarantula (left hand) {rPois rF+ rC+ SInv}
(You found it in the sewers)

How's that for the first randart in a game?
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Post Tuesday, 15th March 2011, 09:35

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I just found what appears to be the Dragon King in an antique shop, for 1600gp.

I have ~20gp.

Ahh well, it's good to have goals in life...
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Post Saturday, 19th March 2011, 19:50

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i have a SpEn of Okawaru going that has got some pretty nice artefacts so far:

a - the +3,+4 Vampire's Tooth (weapon) {vamp, !w}
(You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
It inflicts no extra harm, but heals its wielder somewhat when it strikes a
living foe.

m - the +3 wizard hat of the Lonely Wonders (worn) {god gift, rN+ SInv Stlth++}
(Okawaru gifted it to you on level 2 of the Hive)
It protects you from negative energy.
It enhances your eyesight.
It makes you much more stealthy.

G - the +6 robe of the Orb Guardian (worn) {god gift, rF+ rN+ Int+2}
(Okawaru gifted it to you on level 2 of the Shoals)
It affects your intelligence (+2).
It protects you from fire.
It protects you from negative energy.

y - the ring of Kuxtiam (right hand) {rElec EV+5 Str+2}
(You found it on level 2 of the Hive)
[ring of evasion]
It affects your evasion (+5).
It affects your strength (+2).
It insulates you from electricity.

Q - the ring of Gazxoir (left hand) {SustAb rPois MR}
(You found it in an ice cave)
[ring of sustain abilities]
It protects you from poison.
It increases your resistance to enchantments.

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Post Saturday, 19th March 2011, 21:48

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sorry to double-post but okie just gifted me this as well:

u - the +4 cloak of the Cricket (worn) {god gift, EV+5 Str+4}
(Okawaru gifted it to you on level 19 of the Dungeon)
It affects your evasion (+5).
It affects your strength (+4).

my EV is now 42, 50 when i cast phase shift!

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Post Saturday, 19th March 2011, 22:09

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You finish putting on the cursed -5 pair of gloves "Utaec" {Str-2 Int-3}

Well that's good.
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Post Sunday, 20th March 2011, 08:42

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r - the +2 cloak "Thinok" {Dex-4 Int-3}
(You found it in Pandemonium)
It affects your intelligence (-3).
It affects your dexterity (-4).

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Post Sunday, 20th March 2011, 15:28

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I've found six randart rings in my current game (also three sets of artifact boots!), and I've only got two runes.

Fortunately, although most of them went straight back on the floor, one of them is really nice - and another was in a vault with the Crown of Dyroprevera 8-)

Hmm actually come to think of it, I almost never find fixedarts, and this game has had at least three - the Crown, the Scythe of Curses (very funny) and the Bow of Krishna "Sharnga".
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Post Sunday, 20th March 2011, 15:46

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joellercoaster wrote:Hmm actually come to think of it, I almost never find fixedarts, and this game has had at least three - the Crown, the Scythe of Curses (very funny) and the Bow of Krishna "Sharnga".


Artifact generation was changed recently to make unrandarts more common.

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eith wrote:
joellercoaster wrote:Hmm actually come to think of it, I almost never find fixedarts, and this game has had at least three - the Crown, the Scythe of Curses (very funny) and the Bow of Krishna "Sharnga".


Artifact generation was changed recently to make unrandarts more common.


That's nice! There"s so many unrand/fixedarts I'd love to see in action, yet I never had the chance.
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Post Monday, 21st March 2011, 12:22

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There are also some fairly common vaults that contained fixedarts. Twice I've found the Sword of Singing in a rather neat little ruined house-vault overrun with mites and scorpions.
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Post Saturday, 2nd April 2011, 19:30

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The (slimy) katana of Moderation - +11, -1 (vamp, rElec). Not bad for Oke's first gift.
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Post Saturday, 2nd April 2011, 19:37

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mageykun wrote:My SpBe is rocking
the amulet of the Air (around neck) {cFly +Lev rElec EV+3 Stlth++}

The amulet and sling are incredible.


I found that amulet, in a spider nest vault, whilst playing an Air Elementalist! :shock:

In a different game, my beserker has this:

the +5, +8 longbow "Clorphoi" (weapon) {god gift, speed, rF++, rC++}

Pretty nice!

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Post Saturday, 2nd April 2011, 19:53

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That is a dope bow.

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Post Sunday, 3rd April 2011, 01:08

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Trog gave me the following with my first winning character, a long time ago.

a - the +2,+8 executioner's axe "Pukux Lot" (weapon)
It allows its wielder to attack twice when they would otherwise have struck only once.
It protects you from fire.
It protects you from cold.
It protects you from poison.
It enhances your eyesight.

So speed, F+, C+, rPoison, see invis on the biggest axe you can get. I can't remember finding another weapon so nice. I very rarely see an artefact weapon good enough for use in Zot. Rings and amulets are usually the best artefacts.

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Post Sunday, 3rd April 2011, 06:47

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My last character bought the shield of the gong from a shop. Most convenient shield ever. You can chill out in a corridor with a staircase and ALL the level's enemies will queue up in that corridor to get their asses kicked. WARNING: not suitable for use in vault 8. I had to exchange it for another shield though because titanic slime creatures are assholes.

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Post Friday, 8th April 2011, 10:35

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The +3 cloak of the Townsfolk (+blink, MR, rPois, Dam+3)
Dunno what kind of Townsfolk needed this, but my budding fighter is thrilled to have bought it for ~150 gold on D:5.

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Post Friday, 8th April 2011, 12:27

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the spear of the Lonely Wonders {speed, *TELE SInv}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   Attacks with this weapon take half as long, but cause less damage.


I honestly don't know how to feel about this one. Found it fairly early too. Speed is nice, but tele. is a big turn off for me, at least until I get tele. control. Also, playing as a naga VM, so... :/

That said I got 2(!) staffs on the same floor, one of poison and the other of magical power, and a +2 +4 ring of slaying so I'm all good.

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Post Friday, 8th April 2011, 15:52

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minmay wrote:Unless that spear has very large pluses, it's a rather poor weapon. Speed may be nice, but spears are a really bad base type. Not bad on D:4 though.


Ah, nope, that's all she is. The speed brand is just a slap to the face really on such a mediocre weapon really.

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Post Friday, 8th April 2011, 16:08

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I don't get many good randarts, but this was nice:
the +7,+2 sling of the Crawling Thing {velocity, rElec rC++}
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Post Friday, 8th April 2011, 18:45

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The +5 faerie dragon armor (AC 5, EV -1) {rF++ rElec Str+3}. A fixedart, I believe.

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danr wrote:The +5 faerie dragon armor (AC 5, EV -1) {rF++ rElec Str+3}. A fixedart, I believe.


I believe that it's random. I've found the faerie dragon armour twice and it looked different both times. Or some Spriggan hallucination spell has got me!

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Post Friday, 8th April 2011, 22:01

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From what I've heard, it's semi-fixed. The name, base type (mottled dragon armour), and enchantment level are fixed. Its attributes are random, but always good.
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Post Friday, 8th April 2011, 23:05

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In that case, I got a pretty good incarnation of it!
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Post Saturday, 9th April 2011, 03:14

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+3,+8 halberd "Spiderbane" {venom, *Rage rElec rF++ rC+}.

I'm not using it but my beloved Broad Axe of Chopping instead :oops: .

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Post Wednesday, 13th April 2011, 06:46

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I thought this one had a nice symmetry:

the dagger "Traciw" {elec, +Inv rElec SInv}

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Post Wednesday, 13th April 2011, 07:20

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Off topic, but I'm curious about the reason to this:
minmay wrote:Halberd is a very poor base type

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Post Wednesday, 13th April 2011, 13:27

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Halberds have the lowest possible base damage of all two-handed weapons. You sacrifice a shield to wield a weapon less damaging than some one-handed weapons. Compare the broad axe, which is fairly common on basic orcs, and lets you wear a shield, has the same attack delay, is more accurate, and actually deals more damage.
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Post Wednesday, 13th April 2011, 19:42

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Just bought:

the ring of Koniag {Wiz +Rage +Inv rPois rN+ Acc+2} for 848g on Dlvl:12

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Post Wednesday, 13th April 2011, 20:13

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KoboldLord wrote:Halberds have the lowest possible base damage of all two-handed weapons. You sacrifice a shield to wield a weapon less damaging than some one-handed weapons. Compare the broad axe, which is fairly common on basic orcs, and lets you wear a shield, has the same attack delay, is more accurate, and actually deals more damage.

This is off topic, but shouldn't some of the weapon choices that are non-choices be made into viable choices somehow?
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Post Wednesday, 13th April 2011, 23:46

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fnwc wrote:
KoboldLord wrote:Halberds have the lowest possible base damage of all two-handed weapons. You sacrifice a shield to wield a weapon less damaging than some one-handed weapons. Compare the broad axe, which is fairly common on basic orcs, and lets you wear a shield, has the same attack delay, is more accurate, and actually deals more damage.

This is off topic, but shouldn't some of the weapon choices that are non-choices be made into viable choices somehow?

"Inferior" weapons can be choices sometimes, depending on brand or randart generation, or if the rng just refuses to provide the superior weapon you actually want. Some inferior weapon types can also serve as stepping stones- ie, you wield them while you're still training up weapon skills for a better attack delay, then you trade up to something better when your skills allow it.

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Post Wednesday, 13th April 2011, 23:48

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fnwc wrote:This is off topic, but shouldn't some of the weapon choices that are non-choices be made into viable choices somehow?


If halberds get buffed, that means some other weapon will be the weakest possible two-handed weapon. I'm probably not going to settle on a halberd as my endgame weapon, but if my merfolk finds an artifact halberd of flaming with a couple useful resistances, and I haven't found a buckler yet, then I'm certainly going to use it through Lair even if I eventually hope to find something better.

That one artifact halberd posted earlier had berserkitis on it, though, so it would have been pretty much dead to me as soon as I identified it.

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Post Thursday, 14th April 2011, 22:36

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

I recently bought a "slimy cloak" in a antique shop, it ended up being [The Cloak of Optimism = EV +7 STR-3], since Im a hunter and EV is my strong side, I believe it has helped me a lot when attacked close by hill giants and such, they never get to me!

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Post Thursday, 14th April 2011, 23:12

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

I just found this:
z - the quick blade "Meulocse" (weapon) {holy, rPois}
(You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)

Looking forward to stabbing some pandemonium lords with it. Hopefully it has some good bonuses.
edit: it's [-1,+5], not too shabby.
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