Most/Least Favorite Species


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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 19:11

Most/Least Favorite Species

Top and Bottom 3

Favorite
I like trolls best.
I like nagas.
I like Vampires.
Honorable Mention: Deep Elfs, Felids

Least Favorite
I dislike Humans, demigods, and mummys.
Dishonorable Mention: Tengu, Gargoyles
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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 19:19

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Top 3: Mi, Gr, VS
Honorable metnion: DE

Bottom 3: Ce, Fe, Vp
Dishonorable mention: Op
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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 19:40

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favourite: Na, Ds, Mu
Least favourite: Op, Ce, HE

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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 19:43

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

I like:
1) Vampires. I enjoy the extra strategy of satiation control.
2) Formicids. Fun drawback, fun benefits.
3) Nagas. Fun drawback, fun benefits.
Honourable mention: Octopode. I must like them, they account for 35% of my games.

I dislike:
1) Humans. Boring as hell.
2) Felids. Equipment roulette is fun. Permadeath is exciting. Felids don't have these things.
3) Tengu. 'cos they suck.
Dishonourable mention: Octopode. They account for only 4% of my wins.
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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 19:46

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favorite: Ds, Og, Vp, Fe, Dr, Na
Leaf Favorite: Sp, HO, Gr, Hu, Dg

The rest I am indifferent towards. Humans are by far m least favorite with hill orcs being a close second. My favorite species is definitely Demonspawns.
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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 20:04

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 20:24

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

My favorite are demonspawn and draconians; in both cases, I think it's because of the fun of the unknown (mutations and, for draconians, surviving until you get your color/breath.) Of course, I also like ecumenical altars.

My least favorite is probably Felid.
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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 20:43

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favorites:

Ogres - I like the lots of damage out, lots of damage in balance.
Octopode - Like ogres, but even more-so.
Draconian - Nicely balanced, doesn't railroad you into one sepcific playstyle, and fun to see what sub-species you are!

Runner up: Halfling before the last round of changes, vampires if they didn't have God and transmutation/berserk restrictions for (as far as I can see) absolutely no reason other than "flavor."

Least Favorite:

Ghouls - The rotting mechanic is negligible most of the time up to extended, where undead resistances basically cancel it out. The rest of the time it makes random difficulty spikes more difficult. If there's a level where you have to go slow and can't hang around to eat corpses playing a ghoul just makes it - 20% Hit Points harder. That seems like bad design.
Gargoyle - Obnoxious difficulty swings. Hard to get off the ground because of low hit points, but you end up tabbing through lair and most of orc. I like the idea, but the execution is boring a lot of the time.
Deep Dwarf - I like 'em in theory - I don't have design problems with them like the other two - but in practice I like getting something for nothing, and DD is the only race that doesn't give you that. Spending HP and MP gives me the stress in my tummy.

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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 21:04

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favorites: Trolls, Nagas, Octopodes, Vine Stalker.

Least: Spriggan, Tengu, Kobold, Vampire.

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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 21:08

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favorites: Na, Vp, Dr
Honorable Mention: Fe

Least Favorites: Ce, DD, Sp
Dishonorable Mention: Te
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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 22:15

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favourite: every single one! I love them all!
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Post Friday, 8th January 2016, 22:59

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Like: DE, Mu, Fo, Op

Hate: Fe, Og, Vp
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Post Saturday, 9th January 2016, 01:30

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

+ Op Og Na
- Hu Mu Fe

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Post Saturday, 9th January 2016, 02:01

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Tops: Dr, Ds, Dg (DDD baby yeah)
The Right Hon. Mentions: DE, Mi

Bottoms: Og, Vp, Ce
The Wrong Dishon. Mentions: Op, Fe

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Post Saturday, 9th January 2016, 04:04

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favourite: Mu > Dg > Hu

Least favourite: Fe < DD < Vp

Ds might replace Hu if it didn't have antennae, nightstalker, or demonic guardian. Op might if it had a body armour slot and no constriction.
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Post Saturday, 9th January 2016, 05:48

Let's ask Sequell. :-)

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1693 games for Turgon: 618x Demonspawn, 310x Troll, 309x Octopode, ...

Yes, for sure, these have been my favourites!
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Post Saturday, 9th January 2016, 08:59

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favorites: Ds, Gr, Op
Least favorites: DD, Fo, Vp
Misc. stupid butts I hate mostly because I'm too impatient to be any good at them: Sp, Mu

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Post Saturday, 9th January 2016, 13:44

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favorite: DE HE TE ;)

Least: CE FE SP (i'm a cheite at my heart)
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Post Sunday, 10th January 2016, 06:11

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Likes
Na ++++++++ 8
Dr ++++++++ 8
OP +++++++ 7
DS +++++++ 7
DE +++++ 5
Vp ++++ 4
Mu +++ 3
Og +++ 3
Tr +++ 3
Fe +++ 3
VS +++ 3
Mi ++ 2
Gr ++ 2
Fo ++ 2
Dg ++ 2
Hu ++ 2
Ha + 1
Te + 1
He + 1



Dislikes
Fe --------- 9
VP ------- 7
Sp ------- 7
Ce ------ 6
Te ----- 5
Hu ---- 4
DD ---- 4
OP ---- 4
Mu ---- 4
Gr --- 3
Og -- 2
Dg -- 2
Ko -- 2
HE - 1
HO - 1
Gh - 1
Fo - 1
DE - 1
Ha - 1

Updated to include through TeshiAlair
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Post Sunday, 10th January 2016, 06:21

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

+ VS Dr Hu
- Sp Fe DE (Vp is a dishonorable mention)

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Post Sunday, 10th January 2016, 07:33

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

I like Nagas just cause I tend to do weirdly well with them relatively speaking, Demonspawn, and Draconians.
Least favorites that I'll even try are probably Tengu, Kobolds, and Mummies.

I won't even touch Centaurs, Spriggans, Halflings (are they even still around?) or Felids.
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Post Monday, 11th January 2016, 15:21

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favorites: Hu > Ds > Dg > Op > VS
Unfavorites: Fe (fragile, fast, itemless conduct) <<<<<<<<< DD (fits poorly in crawl) < Vp (really dislike the food system)

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Post Monday, 11th January 2016, 19:57

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Favorite: Formicid (born campers!)
Hated: No-AC races (Op, Og, Tr, Fe). They have no staying power in long combats so most of the gameplay consists of running away & resting.
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Post Monday, 11th January 2016, 20:32

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

+Gh, Tr, Na/VS

-Fe, Op, Vp

Undecided: DD
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Post Monday, 11th January 2016, 20:53

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

imho it isn't even weird to do well with nagas. They have +20% hp, bonus armor, and some convenience resists like rPois and Sinv, making it harder to mess up early on. Sure, they're slow, but you're always thinking about that and it isn't too hard to mitigate.

I wouldn't have expected octopodes to be so high, but I included them as well, so glad to see I'm not alone :)

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Post Monday, 11th January 2016, 21:04

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

I dunno, Nagas are extremely easy to mess up early on in my experience. I mean you have no AC or EV and your movespeed is horrible. Nagas get really tanky around the time you complete Lair/Dungeon though, and newer players often have trouble in the midgame, plus they don't really value the ability to run away anyway, so that's probably why Nagas feel easy for them. After all, with enough tries getting to Lair isn't that hard.
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Post Monday, 11th January 2016, 21:07

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

+ VS, DS, Tr
- Fe, Sp, DE
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Post Tuesday, 12th January 2016, 03:23

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Sar wrote:I dunno, Nagas are extremely easy to mess up early on in my experience. I mean you have no AC or EV and your movespeed is horrible. Nagas get really tanky around the time you complete Lair/Dungeon though, and newer players often have trouble in the midgame, plus they don't really value the ability to run away anyway, so that's probably why Nagas feel easy for them. After all, with enough tries getting to Lair isn't that hard.

While it's certainly possible to get into an impossible situation with Na in the early game, I find having +5 stealth is very helpful for avoiding those situations. Plus rPois helps against adders/ants/bees, big HP helps (a little) against orc priests, and poison spit is a pretty potent ability to have straight from level 1.

Plus, Na seems to do a good job of balancing being weak early with being strong later, so there's that relatively unique feel of enduring a tougher start in order to develop into a tanky juggernaut, while most other species are either strong throughout or weak throughout.
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Post Tuesday, 12th January 2016, 07:56

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Most:
HE, Ds, Dr

Least:
Fe, Ce, DD
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Post Thursday, 14th January 2016, 02:26

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

duvessa wrote:Ds might replace Hu if it didn't have antennae, nightstalker, or demonic guardian.
What do you dislike about antennae?
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Post Thursday, 14th January 2016, 02:29

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

reaver wrote:
duvessa wrote:Ds might replace Hu if it didn't have antennae, nightstalker, or demonic guardian.
What do you dislike about antennae?


they get rid of a helmet slot for fucking nothing, it's gross and awful when your helmet falls away and all of a sudden you can kinda know where some things are sometimes out of los

obviously I don't speak for anyone else but that's why I hate antennae

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Post Thursday, 14th January 2016, 02:42

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

reaver wrote:
duvessa wrote:Ds might replace Hu if it didn't have antennae, nightstalker, or demonic guardian.
What do you dislike about antennae?
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Post Thursday, 14th January 2016, 20:12

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

I really don't have any favorites; I just think Vp is a terrible species, HE is boring, and Ko/Ha need merged.

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Post Thursday, 21st January 2016, 00:51

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

Lets see...

I like;
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#1 Kobolds, if I imagine them as pathfinder Kobolds anyway.
#3 Draconian, needs armour variants
#2 Tengu, because avians are ok.
#4 Humans, because I cant hate myself... right?

I Tolerate;
Everything not listed.

I Hate;
Spriggan
Merfolk
Vinestalker
Mummy
Ghoul
Vampire
Felid
Octopode
Troll
Gargoyle

I would hate elves, dwarfs and humans but I have forced myself to become ambivalent.
So basically, ya I hate everything. Blame /tg/.
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Post Wednesday, 24th February 2016, 12:42

Re: Most/Least Favorite Species

I love vinestalker, merfolk, Deep Elves

I hate ogres,
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