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PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Saturday, 12th December 2015, 17:13
by tedric
https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6 ... d46e35acf7

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Transform the amulet of stasis into the amulet of reflection

The amulet of stasis was an all-or-nothing resistance to a variety of
effects, many of which were good effects. As such, it was only used as a
swap, generally against paralysis, or sometimes to suppress mutations.
Because its use completely protected against the statuses involved, it
wasn't a particularly interesting way to deal with those statuses. A few
vaults still have permanent teleportation traps where stasis could be
useful, but for those vaults Apportation still exists. Permanent tele
traps can still spawn blocking one or both lungs of Zot:5, but these
aren't hard barriers, since trying them often enough will eventually
teleport one past them, and blinking past them is still an option.

The amulet of reflection gives you a variable amount of SH and the
reflection status, allowing you to reflect projectiles shot at you as if
you had a shield of reflection, whether or not you do. The egos that compete
with reflection on shields often make it the worst choice; making it
available on an amulet that also gives bonus SH makes it a significantly
more compelling option, giving players another source for an interesting
attribute.

This commit also adds in SH as an artefact property and switches the amulet
of Shielding into an amulet of reflection that gives +8 shielding; this makes
the amulet a parallel to the rings of Shaolin and Robustness.

Oh, and reflection code could probably stand to be refactored,
but I'm going to push that off to another day.

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Saturday, 12th December 2015, 17:34
by byrel
Serious kudos for writing that essay of a commit note. Very clear what and why you're doing.

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Saturday, 12th December 2015, 17:59
by majesstic
A+, I hate carrying stasis around (so most of the time I don't).

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Saturday, 12th December 2015, 18:23
by tedric
byrel wrote:Serious kudos for writing that essay of a commit note. Very clear what and why you're doing.

To be clear, the commit is Lasty's. I'm not on the dev team, just taking it upon myself to repost commits with significant gameplay effects.

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Saturday, 12th December 2015, 19:58
by Sprucery
Well, I hope amulet of life saving is not the next one copied from Nethack :)

Seriously though, this is a good change.

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Saturday, 12th December 2015, 20:57
by ydeve
Nethack reflection and crawl reflection are very different.

But yeah, I love this change. Hopefully gourmand goes next.

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Saturday, 12th December 2015, 21:39
by WalkerBoh
Lasty, you're my favorite.

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Saturday, 12th December 2015, 22:10
by duvessa
R.I.P. brooch of shielding

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Sunday, 13th December 2015, 01:07
by WingedEspeon
I'm a bit worried by this change because sometimes you needed stasis to deal with stuff that could paralyze you. Wearing stasis was a lot more interesting than wearing a lot of MR+ items as a way to deal with paralysis because stasis had drawbacks. It is just that sometimes you didn't have the MR gear available.

Honestly paralysis is a problem, it darn close to an insteadeath.

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Sunday, 13th December 2015, 02:02
by ydeve
FR: add stasis as a weapon randart property (weighted to stack with *contam, *drain, other remove penalties)

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Sunday, 13th December 2015, 07:34
by Baldu3
Perhaps it's time to introduce partial teleports:
- Ring of pTele: randomly teleport your ring slot somewhere in the dungeon until you find it again

I can just feel the gameplay opportunities.

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Sunday, 13th December 2015, 18:07
by amaril
is there no way to be protected from chaos attack paralysis now? that seems like it would make doing multiple ziggurats more coin-flip-y, not that 'doing multiple ziggurats' should necessarily be a design consideration.

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Monday, 14th December 2015, 16:36
by advil
This seems like one of the better amulet removals, but like the others, I think it does reveal a whole bunch of corner cases that I hope get addressed somehow. I only ever used stasis in three cases, all three of which it has been a major lifesaver and quality of life improvement at the same time. In order from bad to worst: centaurs (or worse, deep elf master archers) with dispersal arrows, draconian shifters (especially when I haven't separated them from a pack), and cases where I needed to cross a tele trap to get into the zot lobes. The third of these is just really painful to manage without stasis, and I'd estimate has happened in about 10% of my wins, though that could be way off. I guess this could be viewed as an "interesting" situation which it sort of is, but imo this possibility really just makes zot 5 swingier and more unpredictable, not more tactically interesting.

(My last win there were actually zot traps blocking both lobes -- now that was "interesting". It was a xom game, so I guess appropriate. The main level was small so on the orb run I tried ~8 teleports to get out of the lobes, all failing, before giving up and just walking across one of the things.)

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Monday, 14th December 2015, 18:21
by byrel
tedric wrote:
byrel wrote:Serious kudos for writing that essay of a commit note. Very clear what and why you're doing.

To be clear, the commit is Lasty's. I'm not on the dev team, just taking it upon myself to repost commits with significant gameplay effects.

Yup. I meant the compliment for Lasty. You're just chopped liver in my book. :P

Re: PSA: Amulet of Stasis => Amulet of Reflection

PostPosted: Monday, 21st December 2015, 02:38
by majesstic
Reporting in: This amulet is the bee's knees for a Fe. I like watching deep elf archers kill themselves while I saunter lazily toward other, more important things.