Remove worship of Ds

[radinms]

Ds can worship god, while Dg can't worship.
it seems strange, IMO.
Ds mutation is crazy strong, so not weaker than stats of Dg.

Q.Why Ds is the one of the balance-breaking races except early-game -- that is the most difficult part lol -- .

A.because Ds can worship god, unlike Dg.
Ds can worship Trog, Okawaru, Vehumet, Xom, Lugonu, Kikubaaqudgha, Ashenzari, Cheibriados, who make up for the weakpoint of Ds.
(but yeah,they do nothing pre-temple except Trog, Lugonu, Xom, I admit)

[onget]

Because the weak species in early game is always died in the early game, it is weak in all the games. God does nothing in the pre-temple will not save you.

[Aethrus]

Oh, can I play?

Remove weapons and armour from Spriggan.

Why Spriggan have weapons and armour when Felid does not? It seems strange IMO. Spriggan is faster than Felid and has more healths, as well as much better aptitudes. Felid can only unarmed and magic, but has minus spellcast but Spriggan have double plus.

It not like Felid extra lives make difference, because good player only die in early game (re: before level 4 and extra lives) so do not matter.

Spriggan should lose weapons and armour, only jewelry, to reach dev team goal of races not being unique and basically all equal to each other.

Q. Why are Sp most balance breaking race in game?

A. Because Sp can use weapons and armour, unlike Fe, which makes up for the weakpoint of Sp (nothing)

[Sandman25]

Can we please stop making claims about early game being that important? Good players don't die early game unless they play extremely weak combos which have problems during later stages too.

[onget]

XL1 and only background items, how do you survive a inevitable fight with adder?

[Sar]

by using background items and powers I guess???

[Sandman25]

XL1 and only background items, how do you survive a inevitable fight with adder?

I don't know. I don't remember dying to adder at XL 1.

[onget]

Early adder(or non-avoided something) is a death that can not be avoided for most of the characters.

All monster in the early game is OP version of the mid/late game monsters, early game character is the weakest since the early game is the most important.

only threat of the mid/late game is the infinite healing and mutation, other mid/late game monster is inferior to early game monsters. And the infinite healing and mutation use monster is very rare, most of the mutation monsters are very weak. Infinite healing monster only three unique(mara,lom lobon,ereshkigal).
only mara is infinite healing monster of non-extend games, the only threat.

[raikaria]

Demonspawn perhaps could be able to only worship Evil or Chaotic gods if they really needed their god pool nerfed, but I can't see why Vehumet for example wouldn't accept a Ds.

But thew simple logic is a God cannot worship another god.

As for earlygame deaths you cannot prevent regardless of skill?
- Early Adder with bad rolls
- Stumble into Orc Wizard/Sigmund who instaconfuse you
- Stumble into Grinder who paralyzes you
- Ogre gets lucky move variance and oneshots you.
- Running from something and suddenly something is blocking corridor.
- Player Ghost; especially one with Meph Cloud
- Get surrounded [Orc Wizard/Crimson Imp blinks. Natasha/Estuchio summons; even Robin]
- Smited by an Orc Priest
- Random OOD Giant Frog
- Vaults [I've had a Boring Beetle Vault on D:5 once...]
- Plain bad rolls/item luck [No Cure or Heal pots]
- Jackal pack as first thing you meet; especially as a caster

[byrel]

Hell, I've run into an ooze as a VM in a starting 1-corridor wide hallway. Sting 3 times, back to the back of the hallway, sting once more, try to melee with no weapon, die. It was very clearcut that it was simply a bad roll.

[bcadren]

I remember starting as Healer and dying to a Radroach. (No Weapon or UC skill at start. Can't heal the mindless. It was faster than me).

[Aethrus]

I remember starting as Healer and dying to a Radroach. (No Weapon or UC skill at start. Can't heal the mindless. It was faster than me).

Feature Request: Radroach enemies with Contam branded bites.