Deep Dwarves and bats

[Berder]

Isn't it optimal for a deep dwarf to lure bats around with him wherever he goes? They provide a completely harmless meat shield that other enemies won't attack.

[Sandman25]

They can block retreat path I think.

[duvessa]

They provide a completely harmless meat shield

what if you encounter aizul though

[Magipi]

They provide a completely harmless meat shield

what if you encounter aizul though

What if you encounter Aizul?

[Greyr]

They provide a completely harmless meat shield

what if you encounter aizul though

What if you encounter Aizul?

You could try it.

[duvessa]

They provide a completely harmless meat shield

what if you encounter aizul though

What if you encounter Aizul?

if you're asleep monster melee attacks do double damage to you

[nago]

Bot says 2.5x!
Anyway, is it calculated before or after damage reduction?

[duvessa]

before, it's the only known way to beat the bat challenge

[Berder]

Bats would be especially good to have around Aizul for any character, really, because their weak melee attacks would wake you up before aizul can hit you.

[daggaz]

Remove bats. They encourage optimal behavior and they are tedius and dumb. Replace with new species of goblin, 'red goblins', which are angry and bounce around erratically in the dungeon.

[rockygargoyle]

Chei can also put you to sleep (the other way to do the bat challenge)

[Pollen_Golem]

Can't you simply shoot yourself with a needle of sleeping?

Also, what if you have total negative AC, for example using -X rings of protections - does it not add random 1d(-AC) damage?

[duvessa]

Can't you simply shoot yourself with a needle of sleeping?

finding the needles is the hard part, i eventually got sick of trying and paralysed myself in front of agnes instead

Also, what if you have total negative AC, for example using -X rings of protections - does it not add random 1d(-AC) damage?

it does not, whoever told you that was screwing with you