Why do elves live inside orc mines?


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Post Sunday, 9th August 2015, 08:04

Why do elves live inside orc mines?

Figure these kind of questions belongs to this forum; I like little background stories and features that Crawl has, such as how Swamp once had a civilization (there's a magic book that tells you about this, and also swamp tiles with ancient rotten walls).

Wonder if there's any explanation for Elven Hall as well: why is it INSIDE orc mine? One wouldn't usually associate them on friendly terms with another. Did orcs dug so deep they somehow found a way to the hidden underground elven territory?
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Post Sunday, 9th August 2015, 08:12

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

Actually everything in the dungeon is friendly with each other. Even Liches and Angels get along...
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Post Sunday, 9th August 2015, 10:21

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

i thought the elves went mad and were worshipping beogh... i found a special vault with a circle of them around an altar once, iirc (maybe i'm misremembering and it was an orcish idol?)
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Post Sunday, 9th August 2015, 13:20

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

The orcs accidentally uncovered a backdoor into a deep elf temple or something while they were mining. They probably pay the elves in gold to leave them alone and help defend against the occasional invading axe maniac.
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Post Sunday, 9th August 2015, 18:51

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

elves live for like 500 years, by the time they reach 100 they've already exhausted all the sexual possibilities that are legal on the surface world. moving under the orcish mines is the only option

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Post Monday, 10th August 2015, 02:35

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

My theory has been that the Orb of Zot somehow compels all within it to do nothing but to defend it against being taken. Thus Mennas not caring you worship Zin, Mara not caring you worship Makhleb, and neither being interested in fighting each other.

Perhaps the Orb also shaped the dungeon to be a pantomime of the world itself. That's why main Dungeon branches are all more or less analgous to actual world settings and places, while the lower depths, where the power of Zot resides, is connected to the greater planes of Hell, Pandemonium and the Abyss.

Or maybe it's just a game and where else were you gonna put the elven halls?

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Post Monday, 10th August 2015, 08:03

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

Maybe the Elven Halls should be inside the Hall of Blades and not vice versa. This would give more characters a reason to enter HoB.
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Post Monday, 10th August 2015, 08:15

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

or less reasons to enter Elf, anyway

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Post Monday, 10th August 2015, 08:25

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

But doesn't everybody love Elf? Great loot, squishy elves :)
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Post Monday, 10th August 2015, 09:16

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

Sprucery wrote:Maybe the Elven Halls should be inside the Hall of Blades and not vice versa. This would give more characters a reason to enter HoB.

That would be pretty cool actually, and make way more sense thematically.

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Post Monday, 10th August 2015, 16:50

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

Elves are actually female orcs.

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Post Monday, 10th August 2015, 17:40

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

Elves HAVE to live near the shops. Shopping is their favourite thing.

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Post Monday, 10th August 2015, 17:47

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

It is not rare to see orcs in Elven halls but not the opposite. So I think orcs invaded elfs, they created the mines by trying to find entrance to elven territory, there are no minerals in the game anyway.
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Post Monday, 10th August 2015, 18:24

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

they're after the green crystal walls
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Post Monday, 10th August 2015, 19:06

Re: Why do elves live inside orc mines?

I always thought those orc parties in Elf were diplomats who came there to learn the dark secrets of elven sorcery in exchange for gold they mine.

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