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New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th May 2015, 06:49
by ololoev
A +3 shield with {+3 AC, +Rage} made entirely from polar bear. It lets you go berserk at will, but once your health is dropped below 30% you will be forced to go into rage.
Since this shield is technically a bear, on each succesful blocking there is a 1/3 chance that it will claw the attacker back for d(YOUR_SHIELD_SKILL) damage.

There might be a synery with the hat of bear spirit that lets you stay berserk for longer or increase berserk counter on each kill.

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th May 2015, 14:17
by XuaXua
No +rC?

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th May 2015, 14:27
by ololoev
XuaXua wrote:No +rC?

I thought about it for a long time and decided not to include. But if retaliation damage is not enough rC+ can be put to compensate.

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th May 2015, 15:26
by XuaXua
It makes sense for the name; then-again, there have been times when design has moved towards less logically flavorful...

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th May 2015, 17:47
by nicolae
ololoev wrote:
XuaXua wrote:No +rC?

I thought about it for a long time and decided not to include. But if retaliation damage is not enough rC+ can be put to compensate.


why not suggest it anyway? I don't think rC+ is going to break it. it's good to think about game balance but I feel like when it comes to unrand suggestions it's better to err on the side of "making people want to use the damn thing".

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th May 2015, 19:59
by jejorda2
If you block an arrow at range, do you still have a chance for claw damage?

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Tuesday, 12th May 2015, 20:26
by dowan
Obviously if it blocks a ranged attack, it should shoot back a polar bear claw. Which is like a regular bear claw, but covered in delicious icing.

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th May 2015, 17:26
by njvack
ololoev wrote:A +3 shield with {+3 AC, +Rage} made entirely from polar bear. It lets you go berserk at will, but once your health is dropped below 30% you will be forced to go into rage.


If you don't want rC+, maybe black bear would make more sense?

Since this shield is technically a bear


Okaaaaaaaaaay...

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th May 2015, 19:18
by XuaXua
Bear a coat of arms.

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Wednesday, 13th May 2015, 21:45
by grisamentum
ololoev wrote:A +3 shield with {+3 AC, +Rage} made entirely from polar bear. It lets you go berserk at will, but once your health is dropped below 30% you will be forced to go into rage.
Since this shield is technically a bear, on each succesful blocking there is a 1/3 chance that it will claw the attacker back for d(YOUR_SHIELD_SKILL) damage.


I don't get it. If the shield is a bear, shouldn't the shield go berserk, not me?

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Thursday, 14th May 2015, 04:05
by Siegurt
Also, strapping a polar bear to your arm sounds... unhealthy.

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Thursday, 14th May 2015, 04:08
by duvessa
grisamentum wrote:
ololoev wrote:A +3 shield with {+3 AC, +Rage} made entirely from polar bear. It lets you go berserk at will, but once your health is dropped below 30% you will be forced to go into rage.
Since this shield is technically a bear, on each succesful blocking there is a 1/3 chance that it will claw the attacker back for d(YOUR_SHIELD_SKILL) damage.


I don't get it. If the shield is a bear, shouldn't the shield go berserk, not me?
it's like in mega man, when you beat Bear Man you get Bear Berserk, and you had to beat the bear pretty hard to turn it into a shield

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Thursday, 14th May 2015, 17:46
by tasonir
I have the right to bear arms.

Aside from the shield being a literal bear, it seems like basically a melee version of reflection combined with protection. This isn't a bad thing, it does seem like it would be quite useful, especially with the rC+. Invokable berserk is also quite strong, but for an unrand I think that's fair.

I wouldn't do the shoots-bear-claws-at-ranged bit, though ;)

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Thursday, 14th May 2015, 21:52
by ajon
Hell no. It should shoot other bears.

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Friday, 15th May 2015, 01:36
by PleasingFungus
not sure this proposal is absurd enough for cyc

Re: New unrand: Shield of Polar Bear

PostPosted: Friday, 15th May 2015, 02:57
by Hirsch I
mods, please move this to the appropriate subforum, k thx bye.