seeing species in 4 categories


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Post Friday, 1st May 2015, 14:58

seeing species in 4 categories

Baseline: Mi Mf Og HO Ko
Diverse but standard races that are good at melee and rather easy to play.

Filler: Ha Dg Hu HE
More baseline-kind species, these overlap with other more archetypal crawl races. Excised species could go here too, like MD.

Niche: Tr DD Dr Ce Sp DE Na
These species generally have one thing that sets them far apart from the normal playstyle, but they and their secondary features are so well acquainted to all crawl players that they are signature races of the game.

Exotic: Fe Op Vp Mu Gh
These species demand very serious departures from normal gameplay even if similar character building is sometimes possible.

Mundane Exotic: Ds Te VS Fo Gr
For the most part play similarly enough to normal species that these could be put in the niche class above, but are somehow less archetypal. Maybe they're just too new or not played very often.

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Post Friday, 1st May 2015, 18:54

Re: seeing species in 4 categories

Who should view them this way and for what purpose?

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Post Friday, 1st May 2015, 19:05

Re: seeing species in 4 categories

Fun facts about the number 4:
- 4 is a prime number
- the square root of 25 is 4
- the most common banknotes in the united states are the $1 bill, the $10 bill, the $20 bill, and the $4 bill

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Post Friday, 1st May 2015, 19:12

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duvessa wrote:- 4 is a prime number

Not only that, but it's a perfect square too!

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Post Friday, 1st May 2015, 19:55

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My sister is terrible at math, maths, and mathematics...
I bet her a $4 bill that she didn't know the square root of 25, I see I won that bet!

Be careful though, losing stuff makes her go absolutely BERSERK! :evil:
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Post Saturday, 2nd May 2015, 00:54

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Post Saturday, 2nd May 2015, 08:52

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Post Saturday, 2nd May 2015, 08:56

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Post Sunday, 3rd May 2015, 05:22

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moocowmoocow wrote:Who should view them this way and for what purpose?


Well, the species selection screen can be reorganized in groups, like the warrior/zealot/elementalist/etc categories in the background selection screen. Sometimes I just want to play a nice baseline species with no big quirks or anything. Usually I avoid exotics because I don't want to consider their special needs. Also, it marks the filler species (especially halflings and high elves) as ripe for elimination. Is it even a valid category :mrgreen:?

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Post Sunday, 3rd May 2015, 11:55

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I don't understand why Hu isn't baseline. Or why Mf isn't niche. And why does species popularity matter to this?

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Post Sunday, 3rd May 2015, 12:03

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all before wrote:I don't understand why Hu isn't baseline. Or why Mf isn't niche. And why does species popularity matter to this?

The opening post is so ridiculously bad that it is really cruel to start seriously discussing it.

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Post Sunday, 3rd May 2015, 15:20

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duvessa wrote:Fun facts about the number 4:
- 4 is a prime number
- the square root of 25 is 4
- the most common banknotes in the united states are the $1 bill, the $10 bill, the $20 bill, and the $4 bill
All of these are correct, but you have been missing the crucial, fourth fun fact about four:
- 4 is pi, the circle number.

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Post Sunday, 3rd May 2015, 18:49

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EDIT: oops, I posed the question when I woke up and it's not a good one
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Post Sunday, 3rd May 2015, 19:41

Pollen_Golem, I think something is really going wrong.

You joined the tavern about two weeks ago. You admitted you don't know much about the game - and if you wouldn't have said so many people would have known because of your posts.

An increasing number of posts in this and other topics doesn't refer to your ideas, they are just ironic or sarcastic comments, even the post of dpeg (!) With a few exceptions that's not the normal way people talk to each other here.

Say, do you know about the Dunning–Kruger effect?

What do you think about winning some games - let's say five wins: three of them with 3 runes, two of them with 15 runes, before you continue with your proposals?

Please be assured that I don't want to hurt you with this post. I just think that more and more people are upset about what is going on.

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Post Sunday, 3rd May 2015, 20:21

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Eh, it looks like he's having fun with it, people in his threads look like they're having fun, and he's posting all this to crazy yui's corner, so the mods don't have more work for them. I don't really see a problem. I think it's kind of cute and endearing.

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Post Monday, 4th May 2015, 01:50

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Turukano wrote:An increasing number of posts in this and other topics doesn't refer to your ideas, they are just ironic or sarcastic comments

Hey, that's true of my posts on other people's topics. Doesn't mean I'm better than them. But thank you for keeping such track of me - most of my "experience" is from quite a while back. And this topic... wasn't a proposal. I just posted how I see species. Are YOU more and more upset about what is going on?

Turukano wrote:Say, do you know about the Dunning–Kruger effect?

Intimately familiar.

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Post Monday, 4th May 2015, 17:24

Re: seeing species in 4 categories

dpeg wrote:
duvessa wrote:Fun facts about the number 4:
- 4 is a prime number
- the square root of 25 is 4
- the most common banknotes in the united states are the $1 bill, the $10 bill, the $20 bill, and the $4 bill
All of these are correct, but you have been missing the crucial, fourth fun fact about four:
- 4 is pi, the circle number.


A fifth fact about four:

4 is the only number (in english) to have the same amount of letters as it represents.


1 2 3 4
f o u r
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Post Monday, 4th May 2015, 17:28

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This is going to become an argument thread soon...

Marvin will probably lock it.
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Post Monday, 4th May 2015, 18:09

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treerex5 wrote:
dpeg wrote:
duvessa wrote:Fun facts about the number 4:
- 4 is a prime number
- the square root of 25 is 4
- the most common banknotes in the united states are the $1 bill, the $10 bill, the $20 bill, and the $4 bill
All of these are correct, but you have been missing the crucial, fourth fun fact about four:
- 4 is pi, the circle number.


A fifth fact about four:

4 is the only number (in english) to have the same amount of letters as it represents.


1 2 3 4
f o u r


Wait, isn't that the fourth fact about four?
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Post Monday, 4th May 2015, 18:54

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but the false fourth fact for four happened to be false
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Post Monday, 4th May 2015, 23:25

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tasonir wrote:
duvessa wrote:- 4 is a prime number

Not only that, but it's a perfect square too!


you're a perfect square, owned nerd
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Post Tuesday, 5th May 2015, 01:02

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dpeg wrote:
duvessa wrote:Fun facts about the number 4:
- 4 is a prime number
- the square root of 25 is 4
- the most common banknotes in the united states are the $1 bill, the $10 bill, the $20 bill, and the $4 bill
All of these are correct, but you have been missing the crucial, fourth fun fact about four:
- 4 is pi, the circle number.

4 * 4 = 4, but 2^42 also equals four.
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