Dungeon Dilettante
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Joined: Tuesday, 7th April 2015, 19:52
#0009613
is just generally an asshole but furthermore, specific to this case, was wrong!
It's more important to cover up the fact that there's an ingrained culture of smarmy bullying in this playerbase than it is to do something to correct it? <-- I wrote that before I checked this forum, and WOW, turns out this is a Current Events issue!
Here it is I was completely right about something, and that didn't stop several other users from being dicks to me over it. If this was an isolated incident, then whatever, but this is NOT the first time I've had a negative interaction with this game's community:
- Code:
20:15:05 <wheals> PleasingFungus, what happened in #8613
20:15:19 <PleasingFungus> wheals: is that lightning scales
20:15:22 <wheals> yes
20:15:26 <wheals> ??devteam[6
20:15:26 <Sequell> devteam[6/15]: <MarvinPA> sadly that bug is literally impossible to fix <MarvinPA> by which i mean i tried like once and then gave up
20:15:31 <wheals> mmm
20:15:37 <PleasingFungus> golthoon is super passive aggressive
20:15:41 <wheals> and weird
20:15:41 <PleasingFungus> you can see this in everything he posts
20:15:43 <PleasingFungus> yes
20:15:45 <PleasingFungus> imho ban him
20:15:53 <wheals> he's like xuaxua but --verbose mode
20:15:55 <tabstorm> whats a golthoon
20:16:00 <tabstorm> is that a new tavern poster
20:16:00 <PleasingFungus> tabstorm: mantis reporter
20:16:02 <tabstorm> o
20:16:13 <gammafunk> !bug 8613
20:16:13 <Sequell> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8613
20:16:25 <PleasingFungus> I deleted his comment & re-closed the ticket
I reported that bug because, like everybody who comes here to report a bug, I was interested in understanding how and why something didn't behave the way I expected. I read about mercenaries and companion monsters and most of what was written on the subject was way out of date; and, with the advent of Beogh, I thought it was pretty reasonable to assume that stuff dealing with friendly monster equipment selection was still in a pretty rudimentary state and that adding one of my experiences with it to the bug tracker would be helpful, both so that other users looking for information about it would see something more recent on the subject, and so that the developers could look at it and let me (and other readers) know what was up.
When you, wheals, suddenly and abruptly closed the ticket with "Mercenaries can no longer pick up items," I was super confused and honestly disappointed, because of all the neat things you can do in crawl, you cannot engage in glorious yakmurder with a robot pal who is just as mortal as you are. I had fun with my mercenary, it was something new that I thought was cool, and then a developer sort of just nonchalantly kills that fun with absolutely no explanation. what.
So I replied with "devteam[6] ?". One of your community's own FUNNY MEMES, from your repository of such, phrased as a question, with a question mark right there at the end, so as to ask for clarification as to why this was so. As that IRC log shows, PleasingFungus reacted to this like I had maliciously poked a sore spot and deleted it, and both of you then proceeded to talk shit about me before he suggested I be banned over it. How terrible for you and your delicate sensibilities! Clearly I didn't come here about a computer game, no, I came here to fuck with people who I literally didn't even know existed! I am a radical element that needs to be removed!!
But anyway that was a year ago, so nobody should even remember it. PleasingFungus wouldn't show up here to insult me minutes after I asked for an apology from a user who blamed the wiki's incompleteness for his patronizing tone (haha), right? That would mean he held a grudge against somebody who has an absolute minimum of interaction with this project, and gosh, why would anybody do that? Now in fairness, wheals deleted that message before I got a chance to read it, but as a gambling man I think it's a super safe bet that whatever was said was inflammatory!
So when I respond to this state of affairs with an attitude like "Well umm okay then, fuck you guys I guess?", I hope that even if you can't sympathize, you can at least understand my reasoning.
MY OBJECTIVES IN POSTING THIS:
- Maybe get that apology from whoever Hollow is? I don't care about kvaak, he said something in IRC once, as opposed to being persistently terrible to my face.
- Make strides toward putting an end to this Gestapo thing I just read about where material unflattering to the regime gets deleted and swept under the rug apparently?
- Smooth over ruffled feathers with wheals and also maybe guest-starring PleasingFungus? Like, me even being here is an olive branch to you guys, for your benefit, because ultimately I'm only interested in this computer game and not the wacky zany fun important? people behind it. I'm super sorry if that disappoints you! Even if I wanted to play chatty grabass with anybody over Dungeon Crawl, there's little incentive to do so when, by recent admission and by most entries on the learndb, most of what transpires here is just you people calling each other stupid. Even if you don't agree, that is me speaking from my perspective, and that is exactly how I feel. Imagine that there's a guy who's played this game on and off for a long long time, and when he encounters a new thing in a new patch or an old thing with unexpected new behaviors, he goes looking for information about it, and most of what he finds is bickering interspersed with in-jokes and outdated documentation. That person is me, and I react to this exactly the way you'd expect, so long as what you'd expect is something along the lines of "ugh."
- Not that this would ever change!
- For this message the author golthoon has received thanks: 3
- Arrhythmia, duvessa, mps