Ziggurat Zagger
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Joined: Friday, 25th November 2011, 07:36
Cigotuvi's Embrace + Kiku's corpse delivery
However, in .16, there's one clearly dominant strategy to do this: Cigotuvi's Embrace + Kiku corpses completely blows any other strategy out of the water. See the highest defense morgue here: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Happylisk/m ... 153903.txt, it has 438 ac and 41 EV.
Stacking temporary defenses for the escape is hardly new, as players, myself included, have been using might/agility potions, casting phase shift, etc on escape for a long time. And Happylisk did in fact have an absurdly defensive character even before stacking corpse armor - the orange crystal plate armor with rings of evasion and a flail of protection, on a gargoyle. But those were generally available to everyone, and didn't limit highest AC+EV characters to a single god, so I'm less bothered by them.
If this is considered a problem, and it probably isn't, the solution (imho) would just be to cap Cigotuvi's Embrace at +10 ac (value approximate). You'd rarely go over that outside of corpse delivery in general, I think. This may nerf Kiku followers who want to use 2-3 deliveries for a tough fight to have +20ac? I'm not sure how often you would do that, as there are few times you can tell a tough fight is coming up and also have 3-4 turns to spend buffing up without taking more damage than it's worth. Probably just for pan/hell lords around the corner, possibly tough zig floors? If we want to preserve this, we can set the cap to be higher - say 20 or 30 ac, and still block characters getting +350ac.
Summary: I assume no change is all that necessary, but I think it's worth discussing. Possibly cap the bonus ac/sh around 10 (or 30 if you like kiku).
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